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Seaweed as fertiliser. Wash the salt off or not?

  • 04-07-2017 11:42am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭


    I live far from the sea but circumstances find me on the coast this afternoon so I'm hoping to collect seaweed for the garden.
    What I want to know is, is it necessary to wash off the salt or not? I've heard arguments for and against this in the past but I'm never sure which argument is accurate.

    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Unless it is a massive amount and something you will be repeating regularly, you don't need to wash it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I'd just point out that collecting seaweed from the foreshore is illegal.

    It's covered by the Foreshore Act 1933 (amend 1998) and the Fisheries Act 1993.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sarah88


    I'd just point out that collecting seaweed from the foreshore is illegal.


    No its not,have a look at the actual law, it states that sand/stones/seaweed etc can be taken from the beach once the use of machinery is not used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭yobr


    sarah88 wrote: »
    No its not,have a look at the actual law, it states that sand/stones/seaweed etc can be taken from the beach once the use of machinery is not used.

    Which piece of legislation are you quoting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    sarah88 wrote: »
    No its not,have a look at the actual law, it states that sand/stones/seaweed etc can be taken from the beach once the use of machinery is not used.

    I know the Act very well. It refers to all removal and not just by mechanical means. A foreshore licence is required for any removal of any material, including beach sand and seaweed. I have been involved in cases concerned with seaweed removal in the past.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Gautama


    I'd just point out that collecting seaweed from the foreshore is illegal.

    It's covered by the Foreshore Act 1933 (amend 1998) and the Fisheries Act 1993.

    Not entirely true. Collecting seaweed without a licence is illegal.

    I applied for a pre-approved one-day non-commercial retrospective seaweed permit from the relevant local authority which is governed by their bye-laws. Under this permit I was limited to only 150kg of seaweed.

    It's free, but there is a €6.35 administration fee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Gautama wrote: »
    Not entirely true. Collecting seaweed without a licence is illegal.

    I applied for a pre-approved one-day non-commercial retrospective seaweed permit from the relevant local authority which is governed by their bye-laws. Under this permit I was limited to only 150kg of seaweed.

    It's free, but there is a €6.35 administration fee.

    I thought that went without saying, as the Act states so.

    Well done on doing it properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    As for rinsing the seaweed. Don't, as rinsing it rinses out the other essential nutrients as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Niniwx1


    Gautama, which local authority gave you a seaweed permit? I'm looking to get some for my garden also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    I know the Act very well. It refers to all removal and not just by mechanical means. A foreshore licence is required for any removal of any material, including beach sand and seaweed. I have been involved in cases concerned with seaweed removal in the past.

    Are people likely to be prosecuted for taking a few bags of seaweed? Serious question, I've never heard of any cases myself...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Curly head


    Zzippy wrote:
    Are people likely to be prosecuted for taking a few bags of seaweed? Serious question, I've never heard of any cases myself...


    Been picking seaweed for years n never had any bother. When it's drifted ashore it's only going to rot away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Curly head wrote: »
    Been picking seaweed for years n never had any bother. When it's drifted ashore it's only going to rot away.

    That washed up seaweed is quite an important source of food for many invertebrates and shorebirds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    I'm using liquid seaweed fertiliser for the first time this year and it's great stuff. Really see plants come alive after using it. It's not very expensive. I think i picked mine up in heatons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Didn't the Bull McAbe use seaweed as a fertiliser in the movie the field?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    During the 1960s the practice was still common in Connemara of the whole family going down to the seashore with a cart, in Spring, to gather seaweed which was spread on the potato fields. No license, as far as I know, and no rinsing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    During the 1960s the practice was still common in Connemara of the whole family going down to the seashore with a cart, in Spring, to gather seaweed which was spread on the potato fields. No license, as far as I know, and no rinsing.

    There was an exception where inherited rights to seaweed collection existed which allowed individuals collect, harvest and remove seaweed inherited as part of that individual's estate. It has more or less died out now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    There was an exception where inherited rights to seaweed collection existed which allowed individuals collect, harvest and remove seaweed inherited as part of that individual's estate. It has more or less does out now though.

    Now we just give the rights way wholesale to multinational companies. Which makes a mockery of prosecuting people for taking a few bags for the garden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Been gathering seaweed from the harbour for years now, against the law is just a load of bull, I'm sure the council/guards have better things to be doing. I always soak it in fresh water overnight and then chop it up before putting in the garden, brings out some fantastic colours and seems to attract more bees and butterflies than any of my neighbours gardens and we mostly have the same blooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Niniwx1


    Gautama wrote: »
    Not entirely true. Collecting seaweed without a licence is illegal.

    I applied for a pre-approved one-day non-commercial retrospective seaweed permit from the relevant local authority which is governed by their bye-laws. Under this permit I was limited to only 150kg of seaweed.

    It's free, but there is a €6.35 administration fee.

    Gautama, which local authority gave you a seaweed permit? I'm looking to get some for my garden also?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    nlrkjos wrote: »
    Been gathering seaweed from the harbour for years now, against the law is just a load of bull, I'm sure the council/guards have better things to be doing. I always soak it in fresh water overnight and then chop it up before putting in the garden, brings out some fantastic colours and seems to attract more bees and butterflies than any of my neighbours gardens and we mostly have the same blooms.

    It may well be down the priority list but I'm simply stating that the law does, in fact, exist.

    It still works better if not rinsed or soaked before use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    soaking it never failed for me in over 30+ years...also use the wash for the lawn.I suppose its down to preference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    Didn't the Bull McAbe use seaweed as a fertiliser in the movie the field?
    Yes, but that was back in the days when the State's law enforcement assets were mainly concerned with preventing a re-run of the Civil War, and prosecuting bicycle thieves:)


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