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Dublin routes news and general chat



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101

    When are they leaving Berlin?

  • Frankfurt have lost a number of carriers or carriers has reduced service. LH are trying to route through Munich to avoid sending traffic through FRA.

    FR will still serve Frankfurt but the base is going.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    They are adding Nuremberg from Dublin this March so definitely just a Frankfurt thing.


    FR will still serve Frankfurt but the base is going. [/quote]

    No it looks like all routes cancelled.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭cson

    51st & Green being closed is not great considering the amount of J seats going over to the US these days. There's over 10 departures daily. Not the end of the world but I would be a bit ticked off I paid for a J ticket.

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a

    Champagne problems…. If you’re flying right now and your flight isn’t cancelled or journey disrupted you’d be lucky, probably won’t settle much for a few weeks either, while this wave passes.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy

    Isn't there a major food and beverage offering upgrade going on in T2 so its probably bring remodelled to accommodate some new hospitality options.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre

    Had the pleasure of using 51st and Green the week before Christmas. First world problems and all but it's wasn't much to get excited by. Breakfast option was 100% vegan - which offended me greatly.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭cson

    As lounges go its not great but certainly better than the alternative F&B offerings in the post CPB basement. The views alone make it worth it.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭trellheim

    Post CBP offering is brutal always wondered about that, probably the highest spending group of passengers cordoned off with nothing to spend their money on.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Noxegon

    I've always thought that the whole US CBP area is badly implemented in DUB.

    Having to clear security twice in the space of 10 minutes makes no sense at all.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I've long thought it a shame they didn't give CBP its own separate annex with its own entrance, so you can go straight in and ignore the main airport. And presumably only clear security once. Ideally it would actually have amenities post-security that way too...

    Not sure how structurally practical it would be though I guess.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭VG31

    Having dedicated domestic/CTA arrivals would be much more beneficial.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭Blut2

    Not high enough passenger numbers for domestic on its own, and the Irish government views the CTA as a lot less 'domestic' than the UK government does - they'd still want passport checks even on a CTA only terminal, which would negate all benefit really. Unfortunately.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Silly Q. But why is there security in the CBP area in DUB. Theres none in the CBP in SNN. SNN is smaller etc though

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a

    There used to be in SNN.

    However SNN have aligned their main security to meet US regulations so that box has been ticked by the time you get to CBP.

    I don’t know if this can or cannot be done in Dublin or why not.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭bikeman1

    I'd love to know what the difference is tbh. Apart from TSA being more rude, it seems similar. Is it my mind that everyone takes off their footwear regardless?

    It's a bit of a patience test. Check the bags, queue for T2 security, down to TSA security, be grilled by the US CBP. Definitely a need for 51st green after all that and seeing what is available in the post CBP area!

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 64,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011

    YUL had a higher - but not vastly - number of CBP passengers than DUB when I last used it - and their post-CBP area is a full terminal of facilities basically. Bars, normal restaurants, Burger King, full duty free etc etc.

    But their flights are across the entire day; not clumped in one (one one and a bit now really) blocks.

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a

    Yeah there are certain differences I think the shoes off does sound familiar.

    It all does sound a bit cumbersome, however having done long flights into the US (non pre-clearance)to be met by huge CBP ques which can take hours … when you’re already wrecked … the Dublin pre-clearance is definitely worth it and a huge advantage. You land and you’re done. Pick up bag, out the door. I’d rather que pre-flight than post flight any day.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭cson

    Shoes off is the only difference.

    Whether Dublin pre-clearance is worth it really depends on how and where you're accessing the US.

    If you're a US passport holder or LPR who has Global Entry, you're almost certainly better off without pre-clearance. For everyone else, it really depends on the flight time and where you're landing, for example the MSP/BDL flights, the wait would probably be shorter if you cleared immigration in the US.

    I would think the DAA have missed a trick here by not investing in the space during the down time, having the lounge closed is really poor and if travel ticks up in the summer to something approaching 2019 we'll be revisiting the farcical situation of advising pax get to DUB 3+ hrs before departure and immediately proceeding to the cramped US CPB space.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer

    I seriously doubt that the lounge is closed for any other reason but the exact same issue that every employer in the land is currently facing - staff having to self-isolate due to having Covid or being a close contact of someone that has Covid.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a

    Reported elsewhere that’s it’s already open again

  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭MICKEYG

    What do you mean by the MSP/BDL flights. What is different about them?

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭goingnowhere

    MSP/BDL get very few international flights so you are spared the nightmare queues

    Pre clearance is a massive value, sure if you are flying point to point the arrivals experience can vary from 10 minutes to several hours. For connections in the US its amazing, no stress, no need to recheck bags, no need to reclear security at most airport

    If the worst happens and I get refused entry I can simply walk away and sleep in my own bed that night, If I got refused in the US it won't be a fun time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭HTCOne

    I've spent well over 3 hours in the immigration queue at both LAX and MIA when transiting via LHR in recent years. For those two airports in particular it is a godsend. It also allows aircraft arriving from DUB and SNN to use domestic terminals/gates in the US which are cheaper and quicker. In the likes of JFK you might arrive just behind a Chinese A380 for example and have an awful wait and experience if going through immigration there.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭Blut2

    CBP in Dublin isn't much fun, and can have lengthy queues, but its absolutely miles better than what you experience on arrival in the big US airports. In terms of time queing, convenience of connections, and even just in the attitudes of the border control officers. They're much much friendlier (or I guess less unfriendly, more accurately) in DUB, presumably because they're dealing with far fewer dodgy characters that are immigration/terror risks.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭cson

    To reiterate; my point being it's not necessarily a massive value for a US Citizen or LPR that have Global Entry (accepted DUB has the GE terminals, but the time sink in my experience is the secondary document checks plus additional security). You'll skip through immigration on arrival very quickly with GE.

    The connecting flight point is good I'll concede, it'd have decent value there.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭California Dreamer

    I used 51st & Green at the end of November. I specially asked DAA travel services was the hot breakfast available and they confirmed it was. Arrived into lounge with pregnant wife and child and nothing!!! I was not happy at all. It was all continental breakfast. But even at that, the quality has dropped. The McCambridges brown bread has been replaced with something that tastes like styrofoam, the Tayto is gone and little things like that. The lounge also felt dirty, it has no aged well at all despite it not being that old.

  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭jucylucy

    Used it in Dec and the food options were terrible for breakfast…..if you paid to use it you would be very disappointed……not even fruit available, no hot food either…..great views and nicely laid out but definitely not worth the fee…

  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Saladin Ane

    Long Q at the bar last month. Ordered breakfast and saw a dip in bar Q so nipped in and bought a pint of cider. Orchard Thieves in an Orchard Thieves glass. Had never heard of the brand before. Deadly with the fry. So I bought a dozen boxes before Jan 4th. Cheers!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭EI321

    I won't be using the 51st lounge again after my last trip in December. The poor quality non-meat breakfast and limit of 2 drinks make it very bad value. Also there are no newspapers any more? It used to make sense as it was easier to get a seat and charging port pre-covid to do some work before a flight compared to the rest of T2 but now its just now worth the bother when the food options are better elsewhere.