Which comes first, plastering or doors/skirting?

Howdy do folks,

Have a fairly lengthy list of 'to do' items on the house. Most of which will be springing into action in about 6 weeks when a builder i know will be available and will start working on doing a few bits.


In the meantime, i want to make a start on doing something of worth cosmetically. The walls in the house have been wallpapered, painted, painted, wallpapered, painted, etc. repeatedly so are in tatters. I was told a quick fix for this, rather than dealing with stripping the paint/wallpaper etc. was to skim over all the walls in the house (every room will be getting decorated, pretty much).

And then paint/paper from there, having new looking walls with no imperfections.


However, the doors, skirting and architrave are all about 20 years old, too, so i want to update those, aswell.

I'd be interested in doing this sooner than later (hopefully started and finished in July).

So what I am unsure of is, what do I approach first? Do i get a plasterer in to do the walls, and then get the doors/skirting and such done? or do I go the other way and pull out all the doors and such, and then get the new skim coat put on?

My brain is telling me the doors should come off first, and then finish everything off with the skim coat?


Anyone able to advise?

Also, can anyone recommend a place in the north east that would have a variety of doors/skirting/architrave to choose from? I've only been in Woodies so far, and wasn't overly impressed with the selection.


Cheers to anyone able to help out here.

markc1184

When we were having work done on my house, the doors, architrave, skirting, ceilings etc all came down to begin with. We were out of the house at the time so it was possible to do and made sense with getting everything into skips at the same time. This probably won't be possible for everyone if the work is being carried out on a longer timeframe and so people may go at it a different way.

Graham

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Also, can anyone recommend a place in the north east that would have a variety of doors/skirting/architrave to choose from? I've only been in Woodies so far, and wasn't overly impressed with the selection.

If it's anything like the Dublin area, most places will stock doors from the same 2 or 3 manufacturers. Usually Deanta, Seadec and Doras.

We eventually bought online from internaldoors.ie after seeing some decent offers on their Facebook page. At that stage we'd already decided on the manufacturer/style we wanted. (no connection other than that one single order so YMMV).

Added, we got hinges/handles from Amazon and saved a fortune doing that.

markc1184

markc1184 wrote: »

When we were having work done on my house, the doors, architrave, skirting, ceilings etc all came down to begin with. We were out of the house at the time so it was possible to do and made sense with getting everything into skips at the same time. This probably won't be possible for everyone if the work is being carried out on a longer timeframe and so people may go at it a different way.

Very helpful. Cheers.

I suppose the big difference for me would be that I will be in the house whilst the work is being done. And although I dont necessarily need any more than one room to be usable (and it's not a room that's getting much done to it) I will have a presence here, although hopefully not one that'll get in the way.

In an ideal world your way sounds better. Everything at once.

Graham wrote: »

If it's anything like the Dublin area, most places will stock doors from the same 2 or 3 manufacturers. Usually Deanta, Seadec and Doras.

We eventually bought online from internaldoors.ie after seeing some decent offers on their Facebook page. At that stage we'd already decided on the manufacturer/style we wanted. (no connection other than that one single order so YMMV).

Added, we got hinges/handles from Amazon and saved a fortune doing that.

Cheers Graham. I have heard those companies mentioned a fair bit on boards from searching. I don't know anything about door brands or what makes one door better than the next, but I'll have to take a look in a shop or two and see what the difference is and what price points are like.


I've actually googled at tad more since writing my OP and it seems that B&Q have a decent range of interior doors. No idea if their prices are good or bad (doors that take my fancy all seem to be in and around £140/€160.

That's a great idea regarding Amazon for handles and hinges! I don't know anything about doors, but I presume any handle for an interior door will fit any interior door? (same for hinges?).


Thanks a lot

markc1184

Check out Wogan's or Eddies Hardware. Like Graham says though a lot of places stock the same products.

dmc17

Pull off all the old skirting and architrave first so that the plasterers can skim the whole wall to the door frames & floor. Once the plaster has dried you can give the walls a coat or two of paint before putting on the new skirting and architrave. Then you're just left with a finish coat of paint on the walls. As for the doors, these would probably come off last to keep the new ones clean from the plastering/painting.

tabby aspreme

Plastering over paint and wallpaper would not be a good option, you will have to strip back to bare walls, or put a slab on and then skim , if you put on a slab you will need a wider door frame or custom architrave.

tabby aspreme

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Plastering over paint and wallpaper would not be a good option, you will have to strip back to bare walls, or put a slab on and then skim , if you put on a slab you will need a wider door frame or custom architrave.

I went into the smallest room in the house yesterday. Equipped with some 'wallpaper stripper' product I got, that you dilute with water and soak the wallpaper with, and a steamer, i got stuck in.

2 hours later, when I had about 1/8th of the room done, I realised there was actually another layer under the layer I was removing.

Curiously, I picked at it. 6 Layers later I decided i'm just gonna slab and skim over everything. Would probably take a over a month to strip the whole house back, and I'm losing about what? An inch per wall with the new slabs.

It's not worth it. I'll just slab from fresh and take proper care of them from here on in. I actually felt angry stripping the wallpaper. How anyone can do that as a job is beyond me.

markc1184

I had the same issue in parts of my own place. 5 different layers in some places. A proper steamer and perseverance is the only job for it along with a good quality stripper tool. I used a 6" stripper and flew through it once I got in the swing of things.