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Spreading lime

  • 22-06-2017 6:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭


    Got my glas nurtien plan today. Only hit me now 2 fields are very low in lime.

    When is best time to spread and when can't u ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Got my glas nurtien plan today. Only hit me now 2 fields are very low in lime.

    When is best time to spread and when can't u ?

    You can spread anytime ground conditions allow it, if spreading ground lime on silage fields leave at least six months between spreading and cutting silage so late summer or early autumn is best for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    How long would u need to leave it before grazing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    How long would u need to leave it before grazing ?

    20 mins after it started raining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    20 mins after it started raining.

    or sooner
    need a drop to wash in stuff that got spread this week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Ah prefect lads . Did not know u could graze that quick .

    On another note . What the most you could spread in one year ?

    Edit : I need 5 ton to get ph of 7 and 3 ton to get ph of 6.5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    fields should be fairly bare to get away with grazing soon after spreading. Saw cows getting very scoury here after they went into a field that was still white after spreading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Who2


    Ah prefect lads . Did not know u could graze that quick .

    On another note . What the most you could spread in one year ?

    Edit : I need 5 ton to get ph of 7 and 3 ton to get ph of 6.5

    2 ton anually is what's recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Cheers.

    Is 7 ph the thing to aim for ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Who2


    Cheers.

    Is 7 ph the thing to aim for ?

    I think it depends on the soil type 6.3-6.5 is what I try to keep it at. I'm lucky enough it was one thing my father was fond of using.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,124 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    ..... On another note . What the most you could spread in one year ?
    if you need a lot of lime (like 7 T/acre) then it's ok to put out up to 3T/acre, according to Teagasc. 2T is the normal limit though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    if you need a lot of lime (like 7 T/acre) then it's ok to put out up to 3T/acre, according to Teagasc. 2T is the normal limit though.
    If you need the 7T/Ac and spread 3T/Ac in year 1, would you spread again in Yr2 or Yr3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,124 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    If you need the 7T/Ac and spread 3T/Ac in year 1, would you spread again in Yr2 or Yr3?

    I'd be inclined to leave it till year 3. Little and often is the better approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Who2


    Your paying by the ton and 1.5 ton per year might be the best option. 3 ton to the acre would leave a fair bit of ground fairly sticky IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,124 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I know a guy that put out 6T/acre in the one year. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    If you need the 7T/Ac and spread 3T/Ac in year 1, would you spread again in Yr2 or Yr3?

    1 2 tonne
    3 2 tonne
    5 2,tonne and retest would be my suggestion. A test yr 4 would tell a lot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭50HX


    I know a guy that put out 6T/acre in the one year. :D

    is he still stuck in the field??:D:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    50HX wrote: »
    is he still stuck in the field??:D:

    It would hardly make total sh|te of the place would it?

    Granted, is the field was prone to being soft, it could make it very bad for a while...

    But if twas a dry enough field to begin with, it would hardly just turn it to mire...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭50HX


    he's a braver man than i am to put it out at that rate:D

    i was told of a story of a certain semi state authority in the agri sector that promoted lime big time in the 70's to help eliminate rushes in north cork and fellas did as advised and now there's nothing but trees growing there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Sami23


    How soon after putting out slurry can you put out lime ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Sami23 wrote: »
    How soon after putting out slurry can you put out lime ?
    If the slurry is spread first it doesn’t make a huge difference, a week or 2 would be fine. If the lime is spread first it’s recommended to not spread slurry for about 3 months due to airborne losses after lime.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    DBK1 wrote: »
    If the slurry is spread first it doesn’t make a huge difference, a week or 2 would be fine. If the lime is spread first it’s recommended to not spread slurry for about 3 months due to airborne losses after lime.

    Think it’s the same for ordinary urea too, but protected Urea, CAN and compound can be spread at anytime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭MikeSoys


    Any recommended lime spreaders in Cavan area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Sami23


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    Any recommended lime spreaders in Cavan area?

    Is it getting late now for Lime or can it go out anytime summer included


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭MikeSoys


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Is it getting late now for Lime or can it go out anytime summer included
    ive some fields where the grass is still short and cattle can be moved off it for it a bit, better late then never...
    also anyone hear of something called brown lime? someone said it works for them.i wonder if he ment something else or if there is such a thing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    ive some fields where the grass is still short and cattle can be moved off it for it a bit, better late then never...
    also anyone hear of something called brown lime? someone said it works for them.i wonder if he ment something else or if there is such a thing...

    Around this end McCaffery’s lime (white) would be commonly used
    Would brown be magnesium?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Around this end McCaffery’s lime (white) would be commonly used
    Would brown be magnesium?

    That would seem to be it alright, the magnesium content could make it brown.

    https://www.kilcarrigquarries.ie/agri_lime.php

    I think that's more available in the south east though. You've got to go with what's available locally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    Around this end McCaffery’s lime (white) would be commonly used
    Would brown be magnesium?

    Not necessarily. It depends on the source quarry. Roadstone Kilkenny have a magnesium quarry with a much blacker colour to it.

    Similarly, calcium lime can range from yellow through blue/black to white. All depends on the deposit its being taken from. Calcium quarries around europe tend to be a much yellower/brown colour than we are used seeing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭MikeSoys


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Not necessarily. It depends on the source quarry. Roadstone Kilkenny have a magnesium quarry with a much blacker colour to it.

    Similarly, calcium lime can range from yellow through blue/black to white. All depends on the deposit its being taken from. Calcium quarries around europe tend to be a much yellower/brown colour than we are used seeing.

    if you had a choice which would be better to apply ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    Any recommended lime spreaders in Cavan area?

    If your near cootehill I know one or two.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    if you had a choice which would be better to apply ?

    You'll have to go off your soil test.

    If you've high mag soil then you go for calcium lime.
    If you've high calcium soil then go for the magnesium lime.

    I think roadstone can blend both to different ratios if you talk nicely and know where you want your soil calcium : magnesium ratio.

    If you've a low magnesium soil and magnesium is applied it'll release any phosphorus locked in that soil.


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