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House purchase - planning issues

  • 19-06-2017 12:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    Have my eye on a house at the moment, but there may be some planning issues involved.

    House has a small brick shed and a kitchen and bathroom extension downstairs which fit into the size exemptions of 40sqm combined.

    The attic has been converted - for storage only - but has a staircase from the bedroom to it. It also has a dormer window. I believe the staircase may not comply with fire regs but as the attic is storage only this should be OK?

    The dormer I understand would not be exempt - what are the chances of retention on this (mid size dormer, does not extend as far as eaves of house, approx. 1/2 length of house.

    The porch is .5sqm beyond allowed size, again what are the chances of retention on this? (it's several meters from the footpath)

    There is a drive too - I assume as the above changes do not have planning this doesn't either. What are the chances of retention on this? (most houses on the street have drives).

    If retention was refused, would be forced to remove the shed and kitchen/bathroom as well, even though these look to be exempt?

    Any guidance would be great.

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    How old is the house?
    And when was planning origionally granted for the house?
    Is it rural?
    Is there precedence in the immediate local area?
    Have you had an engineer do a survey, what did they say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭howtolive


    Hi,

    1) the house was built in the late 20s/early 30s.
    2) it is part of a development from that time
    3) it falls under Dublin City Council
    4) another house on the road has a larger dormer out back, several have extended porches, most have driveways. I cannot find entries for planning for the vast majority of these on the planning search section of the DCC site.
    5) surveyor checked it and could not give feedback on planning matters at this stage. Upon querying the changes further with the EA it appears as though no planning or further documentation is available to the changes made to the property, which is why I believe it's probably something we'd have to seek retention for if purchasing and am unsure if this would or wouldn't be successful, and if it wasn't successful, how much we'd have to change/remove to comply with regulations.

    Looks like the changes were made in the 80s/early 90s to my (untrained) eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 JackPerry


    As I understand it, it is up to the vendor's solicitor to ensure the house complies with Planning Permission before the sale can proceed, So in this case the present owners would have to apply for retention permission to cover all of the works carried out since 1963. This is a straightforward procedure but it does necessitate the preparation of drawings and forms just like a standard planning application.
    Just one thing to remember with the 40 sq. m exempted development.Up to the year 2000 the exempted development area was 23 sq.m so permission may have been required. This is why it would be best to apply for retention for all the additional developments to the house. The storage area in the attic should not pose a problem. However I hope the auctioneers are not claiming this attic room is a bedroom and hiking up the price as a result.


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