Dublin Hotel Prices are Insane

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

It's been creeping up year over year since hotel prices bottomed out around 2011 (IMO) but Summer 2017 Dublin prices are insane.

I wanted to book a night this Wednesday and been following prices for weeks but to no avail. Jackson Court Hotel (Coppers) for June 14th was €290 last week but booked out now, so someone obviously paid that. Nuts.

It's a combination of barely any hotels built since the crash and Dublin tourist numbers exploding.

jamesthepeach

georgiecasey wrote: »

It's been creeping up year over year since hotel prices bottomed out around 2011 (IMO) but Summer 2017 Dublin prices are insane.

I wanted to book a night this Wednesday and been following prices for weeks but to no avail. Jackson Court Hotel (Coppers) for June 14th was €290 last week but booked out now, so someone obviously paid that. Nuts.

It's a combination of barely any hotels built since the crash and Dublin tourist numbers exploding.

In 2011 and 2012 when working late a lot I used to just stay in the Jackson court instead of driving home, for €20 a night. On the rare occasion it would be €25 and I would just stay in the Russel court instead because it was cheaper.
How things have changed.
Nowadays you have to do airbnb and the hotels are lobbying hard against that.

georgiecasey

georgiecasey wrote: »

It's a combination of barely any hotels built since the crash and Dublin tourist numbers exploding.

And homeless families being housed in hotels

Curb Your Enthusiasm

I find you get good deals once you stay a bit outside for the city centre. Have gotten Aspect Park West and Maldron Tallaght for less than €60 per night in the last few months.

Airport hotels like Premier Inn also usually do good deals. Certainly never had an issue finding hotels for less than €100 per night.

munchkin_utd

from a quick search on bookings.com the demand this week seems to be very high

Maybe its bloomsday on Friday, Robbie Williams on Saturday, or just tourists from Catholic countries taking advantage of the double bank holiday weekend in a row (Whit Monday last Monday and Corpus Christi in a couple of days, take 8 days off, get 16 day break) causing a peak in visitors.

Hard to know.

pilly

georgiecasey wrote:

I wanted to book a night this Wednesday and been following prices for weeks but to no avail. Jackson Court Hotel (Coppers) for June 14th was €290 last week but booked out now, so someone obviously paid that. Nuts.

Jesus I remember getting a room there for 40!

finbarrk

There just is a shortage of Hotel rooms there at the moment.

jwcurtin

I couldn't get over it when looking for this weekend. Ended up booking into Trinity's Student Accommodation. €57 for a single rooms. Not ideal but better than nothing.

Fred Swanson

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Glebee

jamesthepeach wrote: »

In 2011 and 2012 when working late a lot I used to just stay in the Jackson court instead of driving home, for €20 a night. On the rare occasion it would be €25 and I would just stay in the Russel court instead because it was cheaper.
How things have changed.
Nowadays you have to do airbnb and the hotels are lobbying hard against that.

I done the same a lot. And the 20-25 euro included breakfast
Prices have gone mental alright over the last few years. The boom is back baby

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

jaysus i never got it for €20 but i definitely got it for €40-€50 on a random midweek night i'd be in Dublin, and a walk-in booking as well. that includes breakfast (which i never got up for) and entry to the nightclub. so another €10 saved there. they had free parking as well in camden lane. that's been built over now and you've to park in st. stephens green. have a naggin of vodka or something in the room and it worked out awful good value!

other cheap places like charleville lodge up in phibsboro charge for parking now as well.

whoopsadoodles

Aerosmith and Arcade Fire are on that night, always like that when there's a big gig on.

rossie1977

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Aerosmith and Arcade Fire are on that night, always like that when there's a big gig on.

Prices are expensive now on Tuesday/wednesday nights when there is nothing of note on. I used to be able to book Travelodge in swords for 19-25 euro two months in advance back in 2011-12 for early morning flights. I have not seen a rate below 65 euro for that in about 2 years, just did a couple of searches for midweek in July/August/September and the cheapest saver rate is 89 euro.

It's the same all over town.

Fred Swanson

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Collie D

€200 for a Travelodge on a busy road about ten miles from city centre? That must be when ****play are in Croke Park?

Curb Your Enthusiasm

8th July is the night Coldplay are playing. So yeah, it would be expensive.

Fred Swanson

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jamesthepeach

Collie D wrote: »

€200 for a Travelodge on a busy road about ten miles from city centre? That must be when ****play are in Croke Park?

Other countries are the same. Ive nearly given up hotels and just use airbnb with the entire place option checked or homeaway nowadays.

Wanderer78

Ah sure, 'the market' knows best!

listermint

I don't know what people expect , keep cheap rates for locals..

I mean there are record tourist numbers coming in and not enough rooms in the capital. This is the result in not really sure what else is expected here

tracey turnblad

https://generatorhostels.com/destinations/dublin
This place in Smithfield is an ex hotel very trendy and very reasonable in a great location

Shemale

On Saturday night friends of our paid 130 for a double room in the Travel Lodge on the Navan Road excluding breakfast.

We stayed there two years ago at 45 a night and its a dump.

whoopsadoodles

rossie1977 wrote: »

Prices are expensive now on Tuesday/wednesday nights when there is nothing of note on. I used to be able to book Travelodge in swords for 19-25 euro two months in advance back in 2011-12 for early morning flights. I have not seen a rate below 65 euro for that in about 2 years, just did a couple of searches for midweek in July/August/September and the cheapest saver rate is 89 euro.

It's the same all over town.

2011-12 hotels were still going into receivership and shutting up shop.

It's the same the world over. If you weren't hit big by the recession then you could have cheap holidays anywhere you liked for a few years back then, nowadays you'd be lucky to even find an available room in a capital city at short notice, let alone a cheap one.

Collie D

jamesthepeach wrote: »

Other countries are the same. Ive nearly given up hotels and just use airbnb with the entire place option checked or homeaway nowadays.

I'm going to see U2 in Paris next month and room is €150 for the night. Now it's St. Denis and also on a main road but less than a mile from the stadium so happy enough to pay it. It's also a Novotel. Never stayed in one before but got to be better value than €200 for a Travelodge.

I know it's s lack of beds and simple law of supply/demand but got to feel sorry for your average punter coming up to Dublin for a gig and paying that money. Still, if you're going to see Coldplay you probably deserve to be ripped off

pilly

I'm just thinking, isn't there legislation that was brought in a good few years ago now that put maximum prices on what hotels could charge?

I remember reading about it and it was a certain multiple of the normal price for a room.

Must be a high bleeding multiple.

listermint

Collie D wrote: »

I'm going to see U2 in Paris next month and room is €150 for the night. Now it's St. Denis and also on a main road but less than a mile from the stadium so happy enough to pay it. It's also a Novotel. Never stayed in one before but got to be better value than €200 for a Travelodge.

I know it's s lack of beds and simple law of supply/demand but got to feel sorry for your average punter coming up to Dublin for a gig and paying that money. Still, if you're going to see Coldplay you probably deserve to be ripped off

Make friends with some friendly Dubliners

techdiver

With Ireland bidding for the rugby world cup this could become an issue.

I've noticed it too of late. Even in the last year or so it's gotten a lot worse.

pilly

listermint wrote:

I don't know what people expect , keep cheap rates for locals..

People expect value for money and 300 euro for a dingy room certainly isn't that.

Restaurants don't charge 5 times the price during busy times?

jamesthepeach

Some say that we are in dire need of another big recession

Roll the dice and if you are one of the lucky ones to still be working you are sorted.

Mrs OBumble

Collie D wrote: »

I know it's s lack of beds and simple law of supply/demand but got to feel sorry for your average punter coming up to Dublin for a gig and paying that money. Still, if you're going to see Coldplay you probably deserve to be ripped off

Average punters stay in hostels or bnb. Hotels are for the rich.

whoopsadoodles

pilly wrote: »

I'm just thinking, isn't there legislation that was brought in a good few years ago now that put maximum prices on what hotels could charge?

I remember reading about it and it was a certain multiple of the normal price for a room.

Must be a high bleeding multiple.

There are maximum rates they can charge. They're pre set and listed in the hotel. Known as "rack rates".

Rack rates are outlandishly (is that a word?) high.

Yourself isit

listermint wrote: »

I don't know what people expect , keep cheap rates for locals..

I mean there are record tourist numbers coming in and not enough rooms in the capital. This is the result in not really sure what else is expected here

Didn't they get a vat reduction to reduce prices etc.

Also if the free market worked prices would get cheap as more hotels come online.

Collie D

listermint wrote: »

Make friends with some friendly Dubliners

I'm actually a Dub who lives about three miles from Croke Park so it actually doesn't affect me. Just musing.

I'm not friendly though in case anyone is looking for a free bed

jamesthepeach

If you think they are expensive now.

Imagine when they ban airbnb how much hotels will be?

When I were a lad the posh relatives used to stay in hotels. I didn't see the I side of one until I was in my 20s.

Yourself isit

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

2011-12 hotels were still going into receivership and shutting up shop.

It's the same the world over. If you weren't hit big by the recession then you could have cheap holidays anywhere you liked for a few years back then, nowadays you'd be lucky to even find an available room in a capital city at short notice, let alone a cheap one.

God this term "capital city" bugs me. I mean Washington is cheaper than new York.

Throwing "capital" at a city doesn't change its demographics.

jamesthepeach

Yourself isit wrote: »

God this term "capital city" bugs me. I mean Washington is cheaper than new York.

Throwing "capital" at a city doesn't change its demographics.

True. It's the ONLY city really. Even cork city is tiny compared to Dublin. Unless you are from Cork.

Yourself isit

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Average punters stay in hostels or bnb. Hotels are for the rich.

They really shouldnt be except at the top end.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

jamesthepeach wrote: »

If you think they are expensive now.

Imagine when they ban airbnb how much hotels will be?

When I were a lad the posh relatives used to stay in hotels. I didn't see the I side of one until I was in my 20s.

When are they planning to 'ban' Airbnb?

dudara

There simply aren't enough hotels in the city as none were built in recent years, and several shut down. We have a few new ones coming on stream soon, but it won't be enough

lawred2

You should maybe check out hotel prices across major cities in Europe.. They are largely all nuts.

jamesthepeach

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

When are they planning to 'ban' Airbnb?

Hotels trying their best to lobby for against airbnb via apartment management companies.

Yourself isit

jamesthepeach wrote: »

Hotels trying their best to lobby for against airbnb via apartment management companies.

I don't think they are controlling management companies.

Yourself isit

lawred2 wrote: »

You should maybe check out hotel prices across major cities in Europe.. They are largely all nuts.

I did a search for <130 in Paris on the 24th june (sat) and got plenty within the main city - the 16 arrondissement

Islander13

As mentioned above, lots of hotels in planning stage. Hoteliers charged below cost rates for many years at bottom of cycle now they are probably getting more than rooms are worth. Nature of the economic cycle folks. New hotels will be built which will drive down rates, none will be built which will drive them up again and then more will be built. Plus ca change. At least hotels are being built, unlike apartments (which should be but councils are preventing)

lawred2

Yourself isit wrote: »

I did a search for <130 in Paris on the 24th june (sat) and got plenty within the main city - the 16 arrondissement

depends what/where you're looking for I suppose... I wouldn't know much about the 16th arr...

Dublin has a shortage of hotel rooms in all categories

jamesthepeach

Yourself isit wrote: »

I don't think they are controlling management companies.

They are renting airbnb apartments themselves in apartment blocks and then putting the stag/ hen parties into them instead of the actual hotels. Has the desired effect of keeping the hotel quiet and riling up the management companies.

billybonkers

jamesthepeach wrote: »

They are renting airbnb apartments themselves in apartment blocks and then putting the stag/ hen parties into them instead of the actual hotels. Has the desired effect of keeping the hotel quiet and riling up the management companies.

The hotels are?

I don't think that is the case at all, the average apartment on AirBnB would not fit a stag or hen party

pilly

jamesthepeach wrote: »

They are renting airbnb apartments themselves in apartment blocks and then putting the stag/ hen parties into them instead of the actual hotels. Has the desired effect of keeping the hotel quiet and riling up the management companies.

Any back up to that?

jamesthepeach

pilly wrote: »

Any back up to that?

I do, but it's another subject for another thread.

jamesthepeach

billybonkers wrote: »

The hotels are?

I don't think that is the case at all, the average apartment on AirBnB would not fit a stag or hen party

You would fit a fair few people into a 2 bed apartment. Sometimes it even takes two apartments to fit a stag/hen group.

I've often rented a 1 bed for 4 people when going away for a weekend. Easily done through airbnb and much cheaper than a hotel too.

Hotel prices are just expensive nowadays.
Even regular bnbs are very expensive.

Yourself isit

lawred2 wrote: »

depends what/where you're looking for I suppose... I wouldn't know much about the 16th arr...

Dublin has a shortage of hotel rooms in all categories

Any of the 16 arrondissement is the city centre. Walkable.