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'Beatles took music from girls', says feminist.

  • 01-06-2017 8:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Specifically the Sergeant Pepper album apparently!

    It transformed the band from something girls could enjoy to a band just for men!!

    Amanda Marcotte added that teenyboppers liked Lennon, McCartney, Harrison and Starr because they wanted to 'f*** the Beatles'.

    She wrote on Salon: 'Sgt. Pepper' is a good pop record, don't get me wrong.

    'But it's a record I resent, because it helped cement this notion that music for girls is silly and music for men is artistically significant.

    'It's a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.'

    Sigh!

    http://dailym.ai/2rsEadS


Comments

  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So what? Do we all have to agree with her or something?

    Or can we safely ignore her and move on with our lives?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    She wasn't around when the LP was released.
    What would she know, she's just a girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Oh those crazy feminists... Up to no good again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I too was just thinking, so what???

    The world's full of idiotic people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Whats this wan's problem? Sure didn't she get it back with the Spice Grills

    Make America Get Out of Here



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Nice job disguising the Daily Mail link, I actually clicked on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Nice job disguising the Daily Mail link, I actually clicked on it

    Hah that's the link produced when you click share


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Feminists...great bunch of lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Well let's all pay lots of attention to her and click the link and take the whole thing seriously, I bet then we can stop people writing articles like this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Disgraceful. I'm not very good at judging the seriousness of events but I'd say this is worse than WWII.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭tigger123


    She's an idiot. Full stop. There's nothing more to it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    py2006 wrote: »
    Hah that's the link produced when you click share

    They must be disguising their own links :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    py2006 wrote: »
    Hah that's the link produced when you click share

    Because even they know nobody will wilfully click a Daily Mail link any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Who is the bigger idiot? Her for saying it or the people who give publicity to it? It's her opinion and she's entitled to it. That doesn't mean we have to give every looper attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    13628202_955738427858418_1547477_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI5MjQzNzMwMTYyODkyNzM2Mg%3D%3D.2

    She can always go listen to Bikini Kill instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    buried wrote: »
    Whats this wan's problem? Sure didn't she get it back with the Spice Grills
    It was all about The Backstreet Boys for her. Have they made their 'Sgt. Pepper's' yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    It was all about The Backstreet Boys for her. Have they made their 'Sgt. Pepper's' yet?

    'Sgt. Backstreet Boys lonely Bank Balance Reunion Tour'

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Good length would sort her out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    Eejit lets words ooze from her mouth. And?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    py2006 wrote: »
    Amanda Marcotte added that teenyboppers liked Lennon, McCartney, Harrison and Starr because they wanted to 'f*** the Beatles'.
    Lennon once remarked that every time his ego got out of hand, he'd muse on the fact that of all of them, Ringo got the most fan letters from women and that brought him back to earth. :D
    'But it's a record I resent, because it helped cement this notion that music for girls is silly and music for men is artistically significant.
    Note the underlined bits. Girls music is different to Women's music. In other news water is wet.
    'It's a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.'
    Hahahahah... oh wait, she's serious... What a complete muppet. And who is producing this "ahead of the curve" music? That would be the blokes in the vast majority of cases. What she's actually saying with an irony she'll never understand is that "girl's music" is transitory, simplistic tat enslaved to fashion, but "Men's music" is more complex, more artistically significant and more permanent. #logicfail. Silly cow.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I agree with her tbh.
    The album is pure fooking class


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    This is not entirely wrong though
    'It's a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.'

    David Bowie was made a success by teenage girls before the art school boys took an interest for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭twill


    From her Wikipedia page:
    Conservative columnist Charlotte Allen called Marcotte "perpetually outraged".
    Sounds about right.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    Can't get much worse...

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    People like this are a wet dream to misogynists.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is not entirely wrong though

    David Bowie was made a success by teenage girls before the art school boys took an interest for example.

    As did Sinatra and Elvis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    13628202_955738427858418_1547477_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI5MjQzNzMwMTYyODkyNzM2Mg%3D%3D.2

    She can always go listen to Bikini Kill instead.

    I lolled, so I did. Would also have worked well with 'woman' in the place of 'Cayman Islands'. :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    No they didn't but Elvis took it from black people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭Rothko



    She can always go listen to Bikini Kill instead.

    Nothing wrong with Bikini Kill


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It isn't even her opinion. Her job is to write clickbait like every other rag nowadays. And she's clearly good at her job.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    So, teenage girls clearly lack the intelligence to appreciate anything other than shallow 3 minute pop and men of course do have the brains to fully appreciate every nuance of high art.
    I don't think this woman has much regard for her sex.
    It's all in the same vein as the usual "Equal rights but special treatment" bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,826 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    You just need to take the lady who wrote this and be patient with her. Try to use reason and logic. And when that inevitably fails, just leave it to Cartman



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I love Pink Floyd but I think they had better albums than Dark Side Of The Moon. There must be some way this shocking opinion can make me famous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,638 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    I love Pink Floyd but I think they had better albums than Dark Side Of The Moon. There must be some way this shocking opinion can make me famous.
    You just need to compare and contrast Pink Floyd to Kate Bush and the articles will almost write themselves.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Do girls not like good music too? Stupid person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Karlie Red Bill


    Isn't she the one who had a vendetta against a bunch of male college students who were falsely accused of sexual assault - sounds like a prominent feminist writer from Clon and her crusade against the Ucd200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    OldGoat wrote: »
    You just need to compare and contrast Pink Floyd to Kate Bush and the articles will almost write themselves.
    Call me a misogynist if you wish, but Kate Bush is painful to listen to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,638 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    /Shuns Ficheall

    Her Hammersmith gigs were some of the best theatre I've had the pleasure of seeing.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Call me a misogynist if you wish, but Kate Bush is painful to listen to.

    Doesn't hurt me.
    Do you wanna feel how it feels?
    Do you wanna know, know that it doesn't hurt me?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Call me a misogynist if you wish, but Kate Bush is painful to listen to.

    Keep running up that hill...
    Buy wouldn't know how that makes you a misogynist, just means you don't like Kate Bush, which is kind of like kicking a puppy... :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    As for free speech, XKCD says it best

    https://xkcd.com/1357/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Call me a misogynist if you wish, but Kate Bush is painful to listen to.

    I disagree and she was unbelievably beautiful aswell . Along with Grace Kelly she's at the top of my all time list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Lennon tbf was a total pig towards women in his younger years.

    He wasn't a nice boy by any means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    diomed wrote: »
    she's just a girl.

    ...but she's not just a pretty girl....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Suas11 wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with Bikini Kill

    Except that Reject All American is full of hate.


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