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Cattle eating a neighbour's hedge

  • 29-05-2017 8:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭


    Hi all.
    My neighbour planted a boundary hedge around his house recently. The problem is the other neighbour's cattle have been reaching in over the hedge and skinning the plants. The farmer in question put up an electric fence along the existing fence but the shock is poor and the cattle are reaching over it and carrying out some pruning work. I suggested that the farmer put in a single wire fence a foot inside his boundary so his cattle would be able to graze under it without antagonizing his neighbour any further. He laughed at me. My only interest is for peace to break but the two of them are as thick as ****e in a bottle. Opinions would be greatly appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    I think it's your neighbours hedge and a farmers cattle so the best thing you can do is do like the 3 wise monkeys when it comes to this.
    See no evil
    Hear no evil
    Speak no evil

    Unless of course the "neighbour" with the hedge is you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    A house build in this place . Land was taken by cpo in my grandmother time .

    People in house 20 years ago planted a hedge not in boundary but on my side of the boundary fense !

    My cattle started to nibble on it before they put a fense up to stop the cattle again on my side . Well it did not really work as my cattle really enjoyed eating it down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭royalmeath


    The farmer is a friend, the neighbour is my brother in law. I'm a farmer myself. I hate to see people fighting over stupid things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    royalmeath wrote: »
    The farmer is a friend, the neighbour is my brother in law. I'm a farmer myself. I hate to see people fighting over stupid things

    You're well and truly fcuked so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    royalmeath wrote: »
    The farmer is a friend, the neighbour is my brother in law. I'm a farmer myself. I hate to see people fighting over stupid things

    Your better practice this speech for anytime either of them bring it up.

    https://youtu.be/nX7CeTXoxyU

    If you try to act as peacemaker you'll be the one both fall out with. Not worth it over a hedge and cattle neither of which are yours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I think it's your neighbours hedge and a farmers cattle so the best thing you can do is do like the 3 wise monkeys when it comes to this.
    See no evil
    Hear no evil
    Speak no evil

    Unless of course the "neighbour" with the hedge is you.
    A lot of people on here ask advice for and tell stories about their "brother" "neighbour" "friend" 🀔


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    A lot of people on here ask advice for and tell stories about their "brother" "neighbour" "friend" 🀔

    A lot of people have brothers, neighbours and friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    In fairness lads the farmer is being a bit of a fool, he is responsible for any damage that his cattle cause, if the newly planted hedge needed replacing he would be expected to foot the bill, we mightn't like that - but such is life..

    He could use stand off insulators or move the fence out a bit to avoid the situation.. Maybe the hedge owner could foot the bill for the stand off insulators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭royalmeath


    _Brian wrote: »
    In fairness lads the farmer is being a bit of a fool, he is responsible for any damage that his cattle cause, if the newly planted hedge needed replacing he would be expected to foot the bill, we mightn't like that - but such is life..

    He could use stand off insulators or move the fence out a bit to avoid the situation.. Maybe the hedge owner could foot the bill for the stand off insulators.

    Not going to happen, they are both too entrenched at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    _Brian wrote: »
    In fairness lads the farmer is being a bit of a fool, he is responsible for any damage that his cattle cause, if the newly planted hedge needed replacing he would be expected to foot the bill, we mightn't like that - but such is life..

    He could use stand off insulators or move the fence out a bit to avoid the situation.. Maybe the hedge owner could foot the bill for the stand off insulators.

    While all that is very true if you were in the OP's situation would you want to go telling the farmer what to do. They've already been laughed at for a similar suggestion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Got a piece of land a few years ago where a site had been sold in one corner, the fence consisted of concrete posts and plain non electrified wire. Needless to say when he got around to planting a few bushes they made great cattle fodder.

    After lots of toing and froing, I said he should have a chainlink fence and he said I should put up an electric fence, evenytually I relented and put up an electric fence.

    Although it was twenty foot back and with three rows of trees inside it....including some lovely Laylandi.

    And I have had no complaints about cattle in the last five years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    royalmeath wrote: »
    Not going to happen, they are both too entrenched at this stage.

    I'm not sure what opinions you wanted so... If you think nothing will work then its best mind your own beeswax and let them at it.. Stand off insulators might work and the hedge owner could jut go ahead and stick them in and see what happens..
    While all that is very true if you were in the OP's situation would you want to go telling the farmer what to do. They've already been laughed at for a similar suggestion.

    Maybe, but old mother hubbard seems intent in being involved in the situation and did ask for suggestions..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭royalmeath


    _Brian wrote: »
    I'm not sure what opinions you wanted so... If you think nothing will work then its best mind your own beeswax and let them at it.. Stand off insulators might work and the hedge owner could jut go ahead and stick them in and see what happens..



    Maybe, but old mother hubbard seems intent in being involved in the situation and did ask for suggestions..

    It's a discussion. I'm not asking for advice. I have talked to the two ****ers and neither will grow up. What I am asking is what you would do as a farmer if you were in the same position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Relevant post
    I'm renting a farm where a site was sold prior to me taking the ground.
    There was a barbed wire permitted fence to which I replaced the top strand with electric.
    The owners have since done their garden, planted a boundary hedge next to the existing fence & have removed the insulators on the electric wire.
    Suppose any damage is farmers fault?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭royalmeath


    Relevant post
    I'm renting a farm where a site was sold prior to me taking the ground.
    There was a barbed wire permitted fence to which I replaced the top strand with electric.
    The owners have since done their garden, planted a boundary hedge next to the existing fence & have removed the insulators on the electric wire.
    Suppose any damage is farmers fault?
    Why would the remove the insulators


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    royalmeath wrote: »
    Why would the remove the insulators

    So I would take the current out of it.

    There was a few branches of trees they planted touching the wire & I broke the ends by hand to stop earthing (maybe I was caught) or maybe they got a shock when they tipped the grass cuttings across the wire

    That's the only explanation I can think of.
    Had problems with cattle breaking due to lost current


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Try explaining the current is there to stop cattle breaking into their nice new garden and 'some bugger' is interfering with your best attempts to stop their garden getting spoilt.....with a straight face. :)

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    greysides wrote: »
    Try explaining the current is there to stop cattle breaking into their nice new garden and 'some bugger' is interfering with your best attempts to stop their garden getting spoilt.....with a straight face. :)
    Keeping calm could be the issue
    Good advice all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    The rules to handling livestock equally apply to handling potentially 'wild' people.... Nice and quietly, no roaring and shouting, then cod them into going where you want them to go!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Muckit wrote: »
    The rules to handling livestock equally apply to handling potentially 'wild' people.... Nice and quietly, no roaring and shouting, then cod them into going where you want them to go!;)

    no slap on the arse as they trot on past?:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭popa smurf


    Your neighbour is not a good friend than, no excuse for letting cattle eat a hedge that is planted inside another person's property if the farmer was smart enough he should be happy there is a good hedge growing there, farmer sounds like a complete pricck and i personally wouldn't​ have anything to do with priccks like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Never underestimate the length's two thick people will go to, to be insulted.
    A brother and sister near here fell out over jam-pots, while making jam, and never spoke again.
    Both dead now, and that's all they are remembered for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Never underestimate the length's two thick people will go to, to be insulted.
    A brother and sister near here fell out over jam-pots, while making jam, and never spoke again.
    Both dead now, and that's all they are remembered for.

    Must have been a fierce row if they both died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    mf240 wrote: »
    Must have been a fierce row if they both died.

    I want to know what type of jam they were making?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I want to know what tupe of jam they were making?

    Maybe it was gooseberry.









    Nobody likes a gooseberry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    They fell out forty years before they died, but never spoke again!

    He was a bachelor and she married but was widowed young.

    Neither chick nor child between them, land all sold and the row is their only legacy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,583 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    no slap on the arse as they trot on past?:D

    Well maybe......if it was a nice tight bum depending on your preferences:p

    Slava Ukrainii



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