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Ozark [Netflix]

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  • Finished it this week. It was grand; not amazing but certainly not crap either. I find the pacing uneven, going from slow and detailed to very rushed - and often in the same episode -
    One week Marty has $8m to launder, the next it's the last run? Come on.
    . I also find
    Peter Mullen's accent all over the place and inconsistent and they do that thing where in a lot of his scenes his back is to camera to hide this (this may be just me spotting this?)
    and likewise with Del
    his accent slips from Mexican to full on Yank at times
    . What made Breaking Bad great was the attention to detail (even if that was subsequently debunked as being inaccurate on shows like Mythbusters etc., and I don't think this has it). I'm not asking for a "Dummy's Guide to Laundering Mexican Cartel Money", but it would help if more detail was provided on the efforts Marty has to go through to launder this cash. A good summer at a sh*tty bar & motel and a strip joint isn't washing $8m. Bateman, Linney (don't get the criticism, she's almost always excellent) and Mullen
    (accent aside)
    deliver from an acting perspective, but some of the supporting actors aren't as good for me. The show started and ended strongly, but some of the middle episodes were, for me, not great. I seriously considered not finishing it at one stage but I'm so OCD with TV and books that I honestly can't not finish something if I start it. Had it been better thought out with more attention to detail and paced more consistently (slower) I think it would have been a lot better. The ending was a bit bizarre
    killing Del and Mullen just talking about it as if it'll be grand and if not we'll deal with the cartel - yeah right!
    but it will be interesting to see where they take it for season 2 and beyond (if they do that).


    The above is what I wrote for Season 1 effectively a year ago. S2 suffers from the same problems - when it's good, it's very good; then it drops the ball with ridiculous sub-plotlines, completely unrealistic time frames, silly characters, bad dialogue, and terrible acting from some of the cast. If it could maintain a higher level of consistency, it could be very good; as it stands it's better than average but not much more than that. The female characters however really came to the fore in this series and are dominant; Janet McTeer in particular is excellent as the Cartel's lawyer. Sad to see Petty go, I really liked his character
    who went out in a remarkably similar way as he did in Ray Donovan
    and the actor too.


    Overall, it's good - but not as good or as clever as it likely thinks itself to be.




  • Will there be a season 3?


    I believe so, but I heard an interview with Bateman recently where he said they left Season 1 wide open to either end there or renew, and they've done the same with Season 2.




  • The above is what I wrote for Season 1 effectively a year ago. S2 suffers from the same problems - when it's good, it's very good; then it drops the ball with ridiculous sub-plotlines, completely unrealistic time frames, silly characters, bad dialogue, and terrible acting from some of the cast. If it could maintain a higher level of consistency, it could be very good; as it stands it's better than average but not much more than that. The female characters however really came to the fore in this series and are dominant; Janet McTeer in particular is excellent as the Cartel's lawyer. Sad to see Petty go, I really liked his character
    who went out in a remarkably similar way as he did in Ray Donovan
    and the actor too.


    Overall, it's good - but not as good or as clever as it likely thinks itself to be.

    so you are talking to yourself about it , maybe you should leave it then if its such a burden ?




  • Elvisjuice wrote: »
    so you are talking to yourself about it , maybe you should leave it then if its such a burden ?


    What are you on about? Where did I say it's a burden? I mostly enjoyed it; I just felt with a little more attention to detail and accuracy it could have been a lot better.




  • Top notch tv, really enjoyed season 2.


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  • Just finished it and thought it was great too. Thought s2 started a bit slowly but it picked up strongly from the mid way point.




  • Just a couple of after-thoughts since I finished it last week.


    In the diner scene at the booth you have to assume Jacob and Darlene met, Jacob said to Marty some line about
    "the woman that takes your breath away becomes the woman you fear" (not the exact quote, I'm paraphrasing)

    "What do you do, Martin, when the bride who took your breath away becomes the wife who makes you hold your breath in terror?"

    Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=ozark-2017&episode=s02e09 and then we see what happens to him
    then we forward to the look on Marty's face at the ribbon-cutting ceremony and the realisation of what his own wife has become.
    I mentioned further up that the female characters were far more prominent in this season than in the first - I'm now wondering if perhaps that was foreshadowing as Wendy goes head first into her new role and eventually will off Marty? The lawyer speaking so highly of her, her willing to do things without remorse (Marty still feels bad about stuff, Wendy clearly doesn't) etc. I really am wondering if Wendy will become "the head of the family" in every sense?
    The lawyer, Wendy, and Darlene arguably were the strongest/toughest characters in this season; and certainly so in the last few episodes.



    Two things I've always liked about the show:
    1. It uses music really well, and from a lot of different genres
    2. I love the Ozark logo shot and how it changes every week. I find it very creative for such a small thing.




  • Just finished watching the second series. Very good. Acting by everyone went up a notch. Laura Linney in particular was outstanding. Ending left it open so hopefully there is a third series.




  • very good second season. excellent actors.




  • I wasn't sold on Series 1, and only started watching Series 2 cos the OH was watching it.

    I think Series 2 was better.

    Would also echo the comments on the actors, think LL was excellent but surely Ruth stole the series, she was superb imho.


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  • Just finished season 2, good stuff, in particular Julia Garner was very good as Ruth.




  • Season 2 was really good, liked the way it was Wendy who is "breaking bad".

    Darlene: feck me that is one cold hearted, evil woman! :eek::)




  • Just finished season 2 last night. Also thought it was pretty good. Hopefully there'll be a third season.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨





  • Just watched the first episode. Another entry in "well-made, bad TV", for me. An intriguing opening, followed by 50 minutes of blandness, in the form of a Breaking Bad knockoff. Including silly stuff like the main character talking to himself out loud, while walking on the street. Jason Bateman is decent, but this isn't great television. Thanks Netflix and Bateman for the content, but no thanks.
    This is my post from July 2017, I only watched the first episode at the time. With the mixed reviews of Season 2 (some actually more positive than the first season), and me having nothing else new to watch (I wait until weekly airing shows have aired their whole season to binge them), I decided to give Ozark another go...

    I watched all the remaining 19 episodes. Oh boy. This show is so damn terrible and stupid, it's almost a hilarious parody of actual "prestige TV" like Breaking Bad or Fargo.

    I got to the end of episode 7 from the first season, until that point I was undecided if I was going to the drop the show a second time. That episode made me lean towards sticking with the show, for better or worse. I play episode 8...what does this show do? You know that thing where modern shows, especially streaming shows, have like a 10-12 episode season, and then around episode 8/9 they have a "gimmick" episode? Think Stranger Things, Season 2 Episode 7. I was actually expecting a gimmick episode, because this show is such a copycat of much better series, in both terms of style and format. Anyways, episode 8 starts playing..."2007"...I just laugh. Episode 8 of the second season is a flashback gimmick episode, too.

    All the episodes are quite a slog to get through as well, most are a few minutes over the hour mark.

    So many (all, maybe) characters make terrible, unrealistic, bizarre choices and decisions, you're sat there watching confused, wondering why any of them are doing any of the things they're doing. It's really slow, then suddenly a dozen different things are happening because they have to get to their next twist or threat, or "shockingly" kill someone off. We got more cliffhangers here, please keep binging.

    But the best (or worst?) thing about this awful show that I'm going to love to continue to hatewatch is, this magnificently silly character...

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    She cusses, she acts tough, and...she looks like a strong fart could knock her over, and probably kill her. That voice, that accent, ugh. Most of the times when I nearly quit the show, were because of her.




  • This is my post from July 2017, I only watched the first episode at the time. With the mixed reviews of Season 2 (some actually more positive than the first season), and me having nothing else new to watch (I wait until weekly airing shows have aired their whole season to binge them), I decided to give Ozark another go...

    I watched all the remaining 19 episodes. Oh boy. This show is so damn terrible and stupid, it's almost a hilarious parody of actual "prestige TV" like Breaking Bad or Fargo.

    I got to the end of episode 7 from the first season, until that point I was undecided if I was going to the drop the show a second time. That episode made me lean towards sticking with the show, for better or worse. I play episode 8...what does this show do? You know that thing where modern shows, especially streaming shows, have like a 10-12 episode season, and then around episode 8/9 they have a "gimmick" episode? Think Stranger Things, Season 2 Episode 7. I was actually expecting a gimmick episode, because this show is such a copycat of much better series, in both terms of style and format. Anyways, episode 8 starts playing..."2007"...I just laugh. Episode 8 of the second season is a flashback gimmick episode, too.

    All the episodes are quite a slog to get through as well, most are a few minutes over the hour mark.

    So many (all, maybe) characters make terrible, unrealistic, bizarre choices and decisions, you're sat there watching confused, wondering why any of them are doing any of the things they're doing. It's really slow, then suddenly a dozen different things are happening because they have to get to their next twist or threat, or "shockingly" kill someone off. We got more cliffhangers here, please keep binging.

    But the best (or worst?) thing about this awful show that I'm going to love to continue to hatewatch is, this magnificently silly character...

    julai-garner-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=646&h=431&crop=1
    loUC5pKo_400x400.png


    She cusses, she acts tough, and...she looks like a strong fart could knock her over, and probably kill her. That voice, that accent, ugh. Most of the times when I nearly quit the show, were because of her.

    Quite bewildering why someone would watch 20 episodes of a show that is "damn terrible and stupid". Maybe go for a walk if there's nowt on tv.




  • Sugarlumps wrote: »
    Quite bewildering why someone would watch 20 episodes of a show that is "damn terrible and stupid". Maybe go for a walk if there's nowt on tv.
    I just knew I'd get responses like this. So predictable. I like to hatewatch some things. If you like to judge me for that, that's fine too.




  • Season 3 confirmed by Jason Bateman




  • Badabing wrote: »
    Season 3 confirmed by Jason Bateman

    Yes it is renewed




  • Really great show!




  • Finished watching season 2 and I binged watched it, it was far superior to the first season, season 3 should be a hum dinger I'd say.


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  • https://us.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2019/10/ozark-season-3-premiere-delayed-till-possibly-2020-cast-remains-the-same-003005901.html
    'Ozark' season 3: Premiere delayed till possibly 2020, cast remains the same
    The Byrde Family is returning to the Ozarks on Netflix but fans will have to wait a little longer.

    Netflix original series "Ozark" was renewed for a third season, last October -- two months after the premiere of its second season. The upcoming season will return with 10 episodes and continue where the Byrde family left off with the launch of the casino boat. While it is one of the most anticipated Netflix originals, fans won't get "Ozark" Season 3 in 2019 and should expect the series in 2020 and here is why.

    When will Netflix release the series?

    Jason Bateman, who plays Marty Byrde in the lead role, revealed prior to filming Season 3, that he would take a little break from acting. This led to a delay in filming Season 3 of the show which just wrapped up production after six months of shooting. Julie Garner, who portrays fan-favorite Ruth Langmore, revealed on her Instagram account that the "Ozark" Season 3 cast has finished filming.

    "That’s a wrap on Season 3 of [Ozark!]," she wrote in the caption. "I love this cast and crew so much! xx"
    I think this website was made to create headaches (I struggled on the first sentence) - https://liistudio.com/ozark-season-3-on-netflix-canceled-when-will-the-show-return/18379/




  • Season 3 went live today. Looking forward to the weekend binge!!




  • Looking forward to this
    Do they do a recap on season 2 does anyone know ? Just to get familiar with it again




  • Looking forward to this
    Do they do a recap on season 2 does anyone know ? Just to get familiar with it again
    Yep Netflix usually have a recap if you go into the "Trailers and more" section. I'm sure there's plenty on Youtube too.




  • Cina wrote: »
    Yep Netflix usually have a recap if you go into the "Trailers and more" section. I'm sure there's plenty on Youtube too.

    Thanks for that




  • No spoilers but Tom Pelphrey as the brother in s3 is one of the best acting performances I've ever seen! Unbelievable stuff




  • yermandan wrote: »
    No spoilers but Tom Pelphrey as the brother in s3 is one of the best acting performances I've ever seen! Unbelievable stuff


    Indeed he knocked the ball out of the park.
    His portrayal of bipolar disorder was awesome.

    Great season,so engrossing in a similar fashion to not wanting to put down a good book.The acting is just of such a high quality and one builds a connection with all the characters.
    Helen's demise was both telegraphed and predictable.No more Ozark otherwise.

    Love the so called hilly billy brigade Ruth,Wyatt and the badass Darlene.Not such a big fan of the love smitten Darlene,more the Frank junior version.:D




  • Two episodes into the new season. Am alone in thinking this is absolutely horrendous? Enjoyed the first couple of seasons, without really being blown away, but this is truly awful stuff.




  • It's not exactly plausible but I find it terrifically entertaining. Every episode just moves along at a great pace, it's never boring or feels like it's dragging despite each episode being quite long.

    Great cast this season too. Tom Pelphry was also amazing in Banshee.


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  • im on episode 4 and i think it is moving along nicely and homelander is correct it never gets boring
    not sure about tommy from power playing the spoilt brat of the mob boss though


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