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Ozark [Netflix] (***SPOILERS***)

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 26,469 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    It's not a subtle show, in its writing or aesthetics, and can stretch credulity at times, but I love how it manages to keep its leads in a constant state of Crisis Management throughout. There's always a new f*ckup, always some new attempt to placate opposing forces for the sake of the Birds' hides. It's greatly entertaining stuff. Can't imagine the Ozarks tourist board love the show though lol

    Arguably Ruth has become its MVP to use the American sports term. Nominally the Bird family are the leads, but Ruth is that brilliant character structure of someone both ostensibly vicious, but also deeply sympathetic. Props to Julia Garner for threading that needle so well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭ Still Ill


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's not a subtle show, in its writing or aesthetics, and can stretch credulity at times, but I love how it manages to keep its leads in a constant state of Crisis Management throughout. There's always a new f*ckup, always some new attempt to placate opposing forces for the sake of the Birds' hides. It's greatly entertaining stuff. Can't imagine the Ozarks tourist board love the show though lol

    Arguably Ruth has become its MVP to use the American sports term. Nominally the Bird family are the leads, but Ruth is that brilliant character structure of someone both ostensibly vicious, but also deeply sympathetic. Props to Julia Garner for threading that needle so well.

    Absolutely not subtle. I actually cringed a bit last night where they showed the screen of the computer with a gigantic
    HOW TO HACK MY WIFE'S iPHONE!!!!
    or whatever it was it said. I mean, c'mon.. Surely you can do it better than that?

    And the 'shock' scenes that are obviously just a cheap way to create drama. I recall a scene where the daughter was drowning at the end of an episode where the daughter was drowning that just amounted to nothing. Or the dream scenes in Season 3

    Maybe it's just the implausibility of laundering tens of millions of dollars through a tiny boat casino that's half empty most of the time, or the fact that they can magically rig slot machines that's annoying me. Not sure whether to continue with it or not, but seems a lot are enjoying it, so maybe it's just me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,494 ✭✭✭✭ extra gravy


    Just finished season 3. Fantastic viewing, it's on a different level to the previous 2 seasons imo. Laura Linney's performance is Emmy worthy for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭ J. Marston


    Helen Pierce is brilliantly played. An absolute cúnt. No other word for it.

    Episode 9 is one of the most heartbreaking episodes of TV I've watched in a while. Agree with the above, Laura Linney's frustration in that episode just felt so real.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭ Homelander


    Just finished the season. Just...wow. Amazing. That finale was breathtaking, and the penultimate episode was genuinely heart breaking.

    This is shaping up to be the new Breaking Bad.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ Blanco100


    My fave show in a long long time. Gutted to have to wait another year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Healers39


    Started watching it over the weekend and finished it earlier. Fantastic TV show. The penultimate episode in season 3 is one of the best episodes of any TV show that I've seen in a long time. Superbly acted. The final episode was also excellent. It's set up nicely for season 4..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭ yermandan


    Kinda wish they released episodes weekly like Better Call Saul


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,748 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    yermandan wrote: »
    Kinda wish they released episodes weekly like Better Call Saul

    You can always watch one episode at a time , I’m watching for an hour or so most evenings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭ yermandan


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    You can always watch one episode at a time , I’m watching for an hour or so most evenings.

    Ah yeah I wish I had that type of discipline, especially difficult when the show is as good as this


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,875 ✭✭✭ Unearthly


    Best season yet. Watched it all over 2 days


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭ den87


    Finished season one of this last night. Easily one of the best series I’ve ever watched. Hooked


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭ yermandan


    den87 wrote: »
    Finished season one of this last night. Easily one of the best series I’ve ever watched. Hooked

    So jealous!!

    What did you make of the first and last episodes? 2 of the best I've ever seen


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭ den87


    yermandan wrote: »
    So jealous!!

    What did you make of the first and last episodes? 2 of the best I've ever seen

    The first episode is great, the finale is even better although I think it could be about 10-15 minutes shorter. From season one, episode 7 or 9 is my favourite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭ Andrew00


    Best show I've ever watched.

    Finished season 1 now half way thru season 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,377 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Done season 3....

    Really really good...


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭ Muahahaha


    Im only on S1-8 here, just started watching it because a couple of mates were raving on about it.

    Im not so sure about it, some things in the show are excellent but it seems you have to suspend disbelief a fair bit such as
    when Marty talked the realtor mother into giving away her life savings in the space of a 60 second scene or the whole thing with heroin being trafficked by Church on the water, etc
    . Just feels the plot lines lack credibility at time.

    I'll finish out S1 this weekend but what do people here say for S2 and 3, does it go up a level? And do the holey plot lines continue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,377 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Im only on S1-8 here, just started watching it because a couple of mates were raving on about it.

    Im not so sure about it, some things in the show are excellent but it seems you have to suspend disbelief a fair bit such as
    when Marty talked the realtor mother into giving away her life savings in the space of a 60 second scene or the whole thing with heroin being trafficked by Church on the water, etc
    . Just feels the plot lines lack credibility at time.

    I'll finish out S1 this weekend but what do people here say for S2 and 3, does it go up a level? And do the holey plot lines continue?

    There will always be plot holes and disbelief and embellishment. If there wasn't, it wouldn't really entertain....I have issues with it....main one being that the place seems a little too on its own and disconnected from everywhere. Law and order a bit too wrapped up to favor the show...I know, FBI are involved, but that's just a token involvement. Similar to Breaking Bad in this regard. Cops a little too hidden.

    Stick with it. Season 2 and 3 are very good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,377 ✭✭✭✭ walshb


    Performance of the season was without doubt the character of Ben, Wendy’s brother..his portrayal of a man suffering with bipolar was very very moving. Powerful stuff!

    I like Tuth, but find that sometimes they push her character a bit too much..kind of need to tone it down a little..


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    I have not felt a pain in my soul watching any performance since Stephen Graham in The Virutes last year. That changed last night, probably the most gut punching portrayal of mental illness I've ever seen. The only one I can think of that came close was Peter Greene in the movie Clean,Shaven. Tom Pelphrey had me going from annoyance at him to being virtually in tears, a monumental turn from him.

    My favourite season so far, fcuking loving it and dying for more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,918 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    walshb wrote: »
    Performance of the season was without doubt the character of Ben, Wendy’s brother..his portrayal of a man suffering with bipolar was very very moving. Powerful stuff!

    I like Tuth, but find that sometimes they push her character a bit too much..kind of need to tone it down a little..
    100%.

    Ben was great, stole this series.

    Just finished it tonight, and have to say Jason Bateman is phoning it in. He acts exactly the same way, all the time. Lot of slow talking , looking pensive. Doesn't even have to try.

    Wasn't a great series for me, not sure I'll stick with it in series4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    NIMAN wrote: »
    100%.

    Ben was great, stole this series.

    Just finished it tonight, and have to say Jason Bateman is phoning it in. He acts exactly the same way, all the time. Lot of slow talking , looking pensive. Doesn't even have to try.

    Wasn't a great series for me, not sure I'll stick with it in series4.

    Always felt that was and is Marty's role in the whole piece. He is pragmatic and analytical to a fault, every decision he makes has a mathematical foundation, its calculated, it's cold, and it's all for the good (as best as he can figure) of his family. I love how Bateman plays it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭ Still Ill


    I'm definitely missing something here. Just found the entire thing incredibly clunky. The fact that some (previously unheard of) character just strolled in and became the focal point of the season didn't sit right with me. How far along are we in the plot from where we were at the end of last season apart from
    the final scene.
    ?

    Don't get me started on
    Darlene and Wyatt... Feels like they just had a couple of characters they didn't know what to do with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭ El Gato De Negocios


    Still Ill wrote: »
    I'm definitely missing something here. Just found the entire thing incredibly clunky. The fact that some (previously unheard of) character just strolled in and became the focal point of the season didn't sit right with me. How far along are we in the plot from where we were at the end of last season apart from
    the final scene.
    ?

    Don't get me started on
    Darlene and Wyatt... Feels like they just had a couple of characters they didn't know what to do with.

    The Sopranos could have the same thing leveled at them with Richie Apprile. With a modest sized cast you have to keep things ticking over. I do somewhat agree with your last point, a bit random, at least to have it develop so quickly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭ Muahahaha


    walshb wrote: »
    There will always be plot holes and disbelief and embellishment. If there wasn't, it wouldn't really entertain....I have issues with it....main one being that the place seems a little too on its own and disconnected from everywhere. Law and order a bit too wrapped up to favor the show...I know, FBI are involved, but that's just a token involvement. Similar to Breaking Bad in this regard. Cops a little too hidden.

    Stick with it. Season 2 and 3 are very good.

    Yeah just thought that scene with the realtor was a bit ridiculous. S1 seems to be going at a hundred miles an hour so you end up with these kind of things which defy credibility.

    Anyway think I'll take your advice and stick with it. It is an enjoyable watch and has many good points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ Chuck Noland


    Just finished... WOW

    Great show, great ending, superb. Any word on the wait time to season 4?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,748 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    Just finished... WOW

    Great show, great ending, superb. Any word on the wait time to season 4?

    It’s a yearly series normally but who knows how covid will hinder things


  • Registered Users Posts: 54,951 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    Netflix better renew it after that ending.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭ seligehgit


    Netflix better renew it after that ending.

    I really don't think you need to worry.:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭ yermandan


    'Bateman said he is clueless about the show’s longevity beyond a third season, although he guesses the show is about midway through its run or just past the midpoint of its story'

    https://www.indiewire.com/2020/04/jason-bateman-ozark-ending-future-1202222664/


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