Ftth to service options

guideanna

Hi all,

Please feel free to move if wrong thread.

With ftth available to me but no option of fttc(too far away from me) I'm wondering what tv options are available to me.

I know eir tv service is but not hearing great things about it and have been having a nightmare with them trying to get my broadband installed so hopefully looking at alternatives

Sky Q not available on ftth

Anyone else?

Mossy98012

guideanna wrote: »

Hi all,

Please feel free to move if wrong thread.

With ftth available to me but no option of fttc(too far away from me) I'm wondering what tv options are available to me.

I know eir tv service is but not hearing great things about it and have been having a nightmare with them trying to get my broadband installed so hopefully looking at alternatives

Sky Q not available on ftth

Anyone else?

You don't need internet for sky q all you need a satellite dish

ED E

Mossy98012 wrote: »

You don't need internet for sky q all you need a satellite dish

True, but they wouldnt be able to avail of a bundle.



If you want it all in the options are Eir and Eir. Digiweb/Pure dont have IPTV products.

Buckmickley

No sky channels on Eir tv but they do have fx
Hd is extra
We don't have hd but added sky movies at an extra cost of just €12
Current bundle price is 67 which is quadplay it includes land line U.K. & IRL,Fibre on the 150 package (average speed in 140's even with the tv running) and my mobile with unlimited everything
New customers also get a free iPhone se
The sky cinema channels you can record like the other channels but you also have free access to sky movies on demand with that add on,that's a 1000 movies
I think it's great value
Set top box doesn't look sexy but it's fast and smooth

You can rent new movies in the eir movies section (similar to sky box office) and a lot of these are just a fiver (for new films!) which is also a steal

Price goes up to 117 I think for us at the end but we were paying Vodafone 55 for mobile anyway and that's gone now

Johnboy1951

guideanna wrote: »

Hi all,

Please feel free to move if wrong thread.

With ftth available to me but no option of fttc(too far away from me) I'm wondering what tv options are available to me.

If you have FTTH available then you have the best service possible available.
FTTC is a much inferior service.

I know eir tv service is but not hearing great things about it and have been having a nightmare with them trying to get my broadband installed so hopefully looking at alternatives

Sky Q not available on ftth

Anyone else?

You can get Free to Air Satellite and Terrestrial TV services without any monthly subscription. Lots of equipment options.

Sky Q is received via Satellite if you wish to pay for their service. You rent the equipment which remains in Sky ownership. Any broadband service will provide the 'extras'.

You can get eir or vodafone TV services over broadband ... dependent on the provider of the FTTH.

eir also comes with free eir/BT sports.

Mossy98012

Buckmickley wrote: »

No sky channels on Eir tv but they do have fx
Hd is extra
We don't have hd but added sky movies at an extra cost of just €12
Current bundle price is 67 which is quadplay it includes land line U.K. & IRL,Fibre on the 150 package (average speed in 140's even with the tv running) and my mobile with unlimited everything
New customers also get a free iPhone se
The sky cinema channels you can record like the other channels but you also have free access to sky movies on demand with that add on,that's a 1000 movies
I think it's great value
Set top box doesn't look sexy but it's fast and smooth

You can rent new movies in the eir movies section (similar to sky box office) and a lot of these are just a fiver (for new films!) which is also a steal

Price goes up to 117 I think for us at the end but we were paying Vodafone 55 for mobile anyway and that's gone now

Does eir tv do on demand for the normal channels

Buckmickley

Mossy98012 wrote: »

Does eir tv do on demand for the normal channels

Just the movies

Buckmickley

Mossy98012 wrote: »

Does eir tv do on demand for the normal channels

Just the movies

guideanna

thanks everyone. Lots of info there.

Can i ask Johnboy1951...
"You can get Free to Air Satellite and Terrestrial TV services without any monthly subscription. Lots of equipment options."
Is this like an android box your talking about?

Johnboy1951

guideanna wrote: »

thanks everyone. Lots of info there.

Can i ask Johnboy1951...
"You can get Free to Air Satellite and Terrestrial TV services without any monthly subscription. Lots of equipment options."
Is this like an android box your talking about?

'Android' is an operating system and nothing else, so you might as well have asked me 'is this a Windows box?'.
No, I am not being nasty, but explaining that the question is meaningless to ME. Heck I run Android on my desktop PC, as well as Linux. I do not have an 'Android box', or a 'Linux box' as a consequence.

Back to what I understand is the real question ..... how to achieve what I wrote about.
Of course you need a satellite dish to receive the satellite signals, and an aerial to receive the terrestrial signals.
These are fed to one or more set top boxes which have receivers in them to process the signals from the dish & aerial.

You can opt for a 'combo' set top box (STB) or separate boxes for terrestrial and satellite.
You can opt for a 'Freesat' STB which is one with specific software branded Freesat.
You can even build your own from off the shelf components.
You can distribute all the channels around your home (or even further afield if you have a suitable internet connection).

Some of those boxes might use the Android operating system.
Some will use a Linux OS. (technically Android uses Linux)
In lots of cases the user has a choice of which version (image) to run.
Others will have their own proprietary operating system.
If you build your own you choose which OS to use ... Linux, Windows, Android or other.

The bottom line is that with the right hardware, you can have lots of TV channels available throughout your home, without paying a subscription to anyone.
Those channels are Free To Air (FTA) channels, and include the likes of the BBC and ITV channels.

guideanna

Thank You!
You are a fountain of knowledge and i will admit i haven't really got a clue, i'm trying to learn though.

I'm not sure Eir tv is going to be for me….i've heard the multi room option doesn't come with the record/playback facility and this would be a major issue with me. Due to be connected this week so i'll have 14 days to decide.

I currently have an apple tv in my main sitting room and run netflix off this (i don't have any smart TV's). I also have a Xoro box box in this room, this gives us all the irish channels and english (free sat??) channels. Happy enough with that.

The problem is that both of these boxes only run in the one room….the rest of the house i get nothing, except for in the Saorview enabled tv where i can pick up the Irish only channels.

We got rid of Sky because A)they're kind of a rip off IMO, and we were still on the old +box and because it was in the attic we couldn't upgrade the box as it wouldn't allow us to work the box/sky eye's from there. OH has a serious phobia of wires trailing across skirting and down walls so i'm at a loss what to do re tv options.

Johnboy1951

guideanna wrote: »

Thank You!
You are a fountain of knowledge and i will admit i haven't really got a clue, i'm trying to learn though.

I'm not sure Eir tv is going to be for me….i've heard the multi room option doesn't come with the record/playback facility and this would be a major issue with me. Due to be connected this week so i'll have 14 days to decide.

I currently have an apple tv in my main sitting room and run netflix off this (i don't have any smart TV's). I also have a Xoro box box in this room, this gives us all the irish channels and english (free sat??) channels. Happy enough with that.

The problem is that both of these boxes only run in the one room….the rest of the house i get nothing, except for in the Saorview enabled tv where i can pick up the Irish only channels.

We got rid of Sky because A)they're kind of a rip off IMO, and we were still on the old +box and because it was in the attic we couldn't upgrade the box as it wouldn't allow us to work the box/sky eye's from there. OH has a serious phobia of wires trailing across skirting and down walls so i'm at a loss what to do re tv options.

The first thing to consider is distribution within the home.
It can be done by wireless/wifi means, but honestly, for a lot of users, this is not really satisfactory.
The best option is wiring.
'Home plugs' can operate satisfactorily in a lot of homes, but in some they can be problematic. It depends on the mains wiring in the home.
Essentially what Home Plugs do is send the signal along the mains wiring where the receiver plug grabs it for a local STB.
The problem is that mains wiring is not designed for, nor is it very suitable for, streaming data, so it might fail.
On the other hand if it works, it should continue to work, and avoid the necessity for specific data wiring (ethernet wire) being retro fitted, with all the hassle that entails.
If you can retro fit ethernet wires then that would be the preferred option.

There is a HTPC section on boards with lots of information and questions answered, a lot of which you will no doubt have.
This video might also be of interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoC5eJ0sVw

As I said previously, there are a lot of hardware options available, and a huge amount of info out there.
All I can suggest is you go on a reading spree to get the gist of the different schemes people use.
It can be a fascinating subject if you have an interest in it.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=643

long_b

A bit peed off with Eir TV. Turns out they have multiple add ons (just like Sky) - I thought it was a "one and done"
BBC1 HD, BBC2 HD is extra, as are some of the kids channels.
Still lots cheaper than Sky mind you but left a bit of a bad taste

Johnboy1951

long_b wrote: »

A bit peed off with Eir TV. Turns out they have multiple add ons (just like Sky) - I thought it was a "one and done"
BBC1 HD, BBC2 HD is extra, as are some of the kids channels.
Still lots cheaper than Sky mind you but left a bit of a bad taste

I wasn't aware eir had multiple add-ons. Not nice!

Even cheaper to get BBC 1, 2, 4 & best of BBC RB, all in HD without payment to the likes of Sky, eir or other.
Same applies to UTV/ITV/STV, Channel 4, Channel 5 in HD, and of course the HD news channels such as BBC, RT, AJ, CNN, Bloomberg, & TRT World.

For as long as FTA satellite is available I won't be subscribing to either eir TV or Sky.

Gonzo

Eir TV is cheaper because the majority of their channels are 'free to air' channels anyway and they do not carry Sky channels except for the premium sports and cinema channels. We would have moved with Eir from Sky only that Eir are missing far too many channnels.

Johnboy1951

Gonzo wrote: »

Eir TV is cheaper because the majority of their channels are 'free to air' channels anyway and they do not carry Sky channels except for the premium sports and cinema channels. We would have moved with Eir from Sky only that Eir are missing far too many channnels.

But are not the majority of the "Sky service" channels also FTA?

Gonzo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

But are not the majority of the "Sky service" channels also FTA?

the ones I'm referring to would be Sky One, Sky Living, Sky Atlantic, Sky News HD, Sky Arts. Also channels such as Viceland etc would be much missed in this house!.

guideanna

I do agree with the limited channels, Eir make it sound fantastic but when you look at the list it is all FTa channels, then extra charges for HD, sports etc.

However, Sky don't offer new line connections for broadband (my line has never been connected), nor do they supply service for FTTH connections (which is what i'll be getting from Eir once connected), and i can't justify Sky's cost without the internet connection to avail of the extra services.

Sky wasn't even giving me the current planner menu as i was still using the old box. Felt like i was paying full whack for an inferior service and sky would do nothing for me on that front so i left them!

ED E

guideanna wrote: »

However, Sky don't offer new line connections for broadband

They do. Fado fado they used not to, now they do, but as it basically means they make €0.00 in the first year they dont push the idea. Caveat: If you address is non unique Sky get very very very confused.

guideanna

Oh Really Ed E. i must contact them on this so!
Eir have been faffing around trying to get me connected since march…couldn't even begin to tell you all the issues. They have been a compete and utter joke to deal with!

Johnboy1951

ED E wrote: »

They do. Fado fado they used not to, now they do, but as it basically means they make €0.00 in the first year they dont push the idea. Caveat: If you address is non unique Sky get very very very confused.

even in the circumstances described by guideanna?

With ftth available to me but no option of fttc

ED E

Not yet no, I was simply correcting the common error that sky cant do NLPs.


Installs get messy when you pay buttons which unfortunately OE do.

guideanna

Ah, i was thinking because it wasn't so long ago i was onto them to check this.

FTTH is the superior connection BUT also restricts the services on offer…PRO/CON

Been looking through the channel list from Eir and it's basically the same as what i'm getting on my FTA box.

So i'm thinking now i'll keep the bb but get an android box or possibly TV now subscription.