16 & 17 year olds to be blocked from sitting driver theory test

The Parish Priest.

The perverted pieces of trash who run this country have brought in an new law that all those who want to sit the driver theory test from June 16 will require a public services card, however one needs to be 18 or over to get the paddy proxy national id card:rolleyes:

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Evening Father.

Erik Shin

Parish priests are making the road laws now ?

myshirt

So I hear you're a racist now Father.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Sacrilidge!

I had my tractor licence at 16, but couldn't drive my Opel Corsa on the same roads for another year. I know which I'd rather have a 16 year old crash into me in.

Who'll drive the silage outfits now

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LexieOnRale wrote: »

Sacrilidge!

I had my tractor licence at 16, but couldn't drive my Opel Corsa on the same roads for another year. I know which I'd rather have a 16 year old crash into me in.

Who'll drive the silage outfits now

You ?

myshirt

What happened the days when you could get your 12 year old son to go out and move the car?

Northerngal

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

The highest number of fatalities on our roads were among those aged 16-25 (45)

corner of hells

myshirt wrote: »

What happened the days when you could get your 12 year old son to go out and move the car?

Or get you cans and twenty smokes .

One_Of_Shanks

Unless you've been living under a rock you've probably noticed our gradual progression towards being a Nanny State and it will get worse when Leo gets in if you ask me.
You'll need a license to wipe your ass soon in this country.

buried

With this new trend for hair fringes down the face to their chins, How in the holy f**k can these young lads these days walk down the street, never mind drive a car?

myshirt

buried wrote: »

With this new trend for hair fringes down the face to their chins, How in the holy f**k can these young lads these days walk down the street never mind drive a car?

Alf had no problems did he?

paleoperson

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

The perverted pieces of trash who run this country have brought in an new law that all those who want to sit the driver theory test from June 16 will require a public services card, however one needs to be 18 or over to get the paddy proxy national id card:rolleyes:

What do you mean "the perverted pieces of trash that run this country".

Why don't all you 16 year old **** off to twitter or some ****, you're not funny and just annoying to fully functioning adults.

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One_Of_Shanks

paleoperson wrote: »

What do you mean "the perverted pieces of trash that run this country".

Why don't all you 16 year old **** off to twitter or some ****, you're not funny and just annoying to fully functioning adults.

If that's how you speak to 16 year olds then lets hope you're not a parent.
Awful comment.

dodderangler

Has t be the worst country in the world regarding driving on the road. Every two years it's a new stupid rule. The problems on the road aren't young drivers. It's them wànkers in their BMW, Audi's, mercs and range rovers constantly on the phone. I know them new cars come with handsfree built int the radio and they've all also got indicators. Use them ffs. And relax on the speed a bit aswell. Nothing worse than an idiot in his Audi on the phone while doing 150km and not indicating when changing lanes.

diomed

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Unless you've been living under a rock you've probably noticed our gradual progression towards being a Nanny State and it will get worse when Leo gets in if you ask me.
You'll need a license to wipe your ass soon in this country.

Fight the Power.

jobbridge4life

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Unless you've been living under a rock you've probably noticed our gradual progression towards being a Nanny State and it will get worse when Leo gets in if you ask me.
You'll need a license to wipe your ass soon in this country.

What Nanny State laws specifically are you referring to?

Mena

dodderangler wrote: »

Has t be the worst country in the world regarding driving on the road. Every two years it's a new stupid rule. The problems on the road aren't young drivers. It's them wànkers in their BMW, Audi's, mercs and range rovers constantly on the phone. I know them new cars come with handsfree built int the radio and they've all also got indicators. Use them ffs. And relax on the speed a bit aswell. Nothing worse than an idiot in his Audi on the phone while doing 150km and not indicating when changing lanes.

Don't worry. When you grow up and find a proper job, apply yourself and focus on your career you too can have nice things. You don't have to be in that banger for the rest of your life.

hairyslug

myshirt wrote: »

What happened the days when you could get your 12 year old son to go out and move the car?

A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away (Cavan) I was on the piss with a few friends, we had organised a taxi to collect is from a house and pick us up at the end of the night.
Sometime during the night, I noticed the taxi driver in the same pub as us, thought nothing of it.
When we got picked up, the taxi driver was in the passenger seat and his son, no more than 14, was driving all of us home.

Pkiernan

16 and 17 year old children do not belong behind the wheel of a car.

testicles

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dodderangler

Mena wrote: »

Don't worry. When you grow up and find a proper job, apply yourself and focus on your career you too can have nice things. You don't have to be in that banger for the rest of your life.

Well having a nice car doesn't mean you've to turn into the biggest prîck on the road either.

Allah snackbar

dodderangler wrote: »

Has t be the worst country in the world regarding driving on the road. Every two years it's a new stupid rule. The problems on the road aren't young drivers. It's them wànkers in their BMW, Audi's, mercs and range rovers constantly on the phone. I know them new cars come with handsfree built int the radio and they've all also got indicators. Use them ffs. And relax on the speed a bit aswell. Nothing worse than an idiot in his Audi on the phone while doing 150km and not indicating when changing lanes.

Worst country in the world ? Christ that's a stupid post , there's plenty evidence out there about road safety and Ireland , we used to be one of the worst but we've upped our game recently and now have a fairly good record , and data proves that young people are more likely to die due to speeding and dangerous driving

dodderangler

Allah snackbar wrote: »

Worst country in the world ? Jesus Christ that's one stupid post

How??

andekwarhola

Boo hoo, you won't be able to drive to school.

Somebody get the UN on the hotline.

machiavellianme

testicles wrote: »

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Or moped.
If anything, they should be reducing the age for the theory tests.
Get good practice in early.
Make them sit a few over the years so it might seep in.

suicide_circus

The entire process of learning to drive in this country is a farce. So convoluted, a meddling bureaucrat's wet dream. Just teach kids to drive IN SCHOOL.

The Rape of Lucretia

dodderangler wrote: »

How??

Well, from your analysis, that enables you to conclude it is the worst, which were the second and third worst, for example. Or did you check them all and come up with a comprehensive ranking system and list assessing all the countries of the world ? Are you confident your methodology was correct ?

Allinall

dodderangler wrote: »

Has t be the worst country in the world regarding driving on the road. Every two years it's a new stupid rule. The problems on the road aren't young drivers. It's them wànkers in their BMW, Audi's, mercs and range rovers constantly on the phone. I know them new cars come with handsfree built int the radio and they've all also got indicators. Use them ffs. And relax on the speed a bit aswell. Nothing worse than an idiot in his Audi on the phone while doing 150km and not indicating when changing lanes.

I hate these posts that make sweeping generalizations.

The fact is that all 16 and 17 year olds are mostly boy racers and cause all the deaths on the roads.

That's the reason this measure is being brought in.

dodderangler

Allinall wrote: »

I hate these posts that make sweeping generalizations.

The fact is that all 16 and 17 year olds are mostly boy racers and cause all the deaths on the roads.

That's the reason this measure is being brought in.

Boy racers are few and far between now. They can't get insured on modified cars anymore so that scene is near extinct. So I'm calling bs on that. And why is it just boys? Some Teenage girls should never ever be near a car. They're feckin lethal.

riverrocked

dodderangler wrote: »

Some Teenage girls should never ever be near a car. They're feckin lethal.

We can change that to some people should never be near a car.

If they changed the age to apply for the theory test to match the introduction of the psc then that would be one thing but it is a paradox to have the rule that you can drive from 16 on but you can't get a license.

It is already prohibitive for anyone to drive due to the cost - €45 on theory test, €35 to get the provisional license (+ €30 for the eye test), €300+ to get the required lessons, €120 to take the test, full license €55. That is all before you buy a car or get insurance and tax. Perhaps this is the governments sly way of forcing us to become carless so they can say that we are carless to europe.

Gavinz

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

The perverted pieces of trash who run this country have brought in an new law that all those who want to sit the driver theory test from June 16 will require a public services card, however one needs to be 18 or over to get the paddy proxy national id card:rolleyes:

I don't like it when you touch me there

beechwood55

Where does it say that the Public Services Card is only available to people who are 18 or over?

vicwatson

dodderangler wrote: »

Well having a nice car doesn't mean you've to turn into the biggest pr?ck on the road either.

I see pr?cks on the road of all ages, sexes and in different car types all the time in every part of the country. There is no tolerance or patience on the roads anymore.

The biggest problem though is the lack of enforcement of the rules of the road. Simples. We cannot blame lack of education.

Chuchote

The AA says running a car in Ireland costs an average of €11,000 a year. How are 16-year-olds going to earn that?

And by the same token, if you got a bike instead and saved all your €11,000s for 10 years you'd be able to buy a basic home. Plus not being fat.

ectoraige

beechwood55 wrote: »

Where does it say that the Public Services Card is only available to people who are 18 or over?

It doesn't. The card is issued when you are given a PPS number which you can apply for once you've a reason to need one. I got mine when I started work at 15. You need a PPS number to apply the theory test anyway.

OP, get a job.

my3cents

The link that should have been in the OP

https://www.ndls.ie/news/114-changes-to-identification-required-for-driver-theory-test.html .

ectoraige

ectoraige wrote: »

It doesn't. The card is issued when you are given a PPS number which you can apply for once you've a reason to need one. I got mine when I started work at 15. You need a PPS number to apply the theory test anyway.

OP, get a job.

All my kids got PPS cards before they were out of Nappies.

The Parish Priest.

jobbridge4life wrote: »

What Nanny State laws specifically are you referring to?

FFS, a pair of consenting adults can no longer exchange cash for sexual acts in this country

The Parish Priest.

beechwood55 wrote: »

Where does it say that the Public Services Card is only available to people who are 18 or over?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0810/808254-public-service-card/

my3cents

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0810/808254-public-service-card/

Still doesn't say you have to be 18 to get a PSC.

The Parish Priest.

my3cents wrote: »

Still doesn't say you have to be 18 to get a PSC.

Fine, ring your local dole office on Monday and ask them if you don't believe me

my3cents

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

Fine, ring your local dole office on Monday and ask them if you don't believe me

Why would they know? They don't issue the PSC cards.

CFlat

Allinall wrote: »

I hate these posts that make sweeping generalizations.

Sweeping generalisations is the bedrock Boards is built on, don't take that away from us, what would we moan about then..WHAT?:pac:

Del2005

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0810/808254-public-service-card/

All that says it's to assist people over the age of 18 access public services. This says that anyone can apply

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Public-Services-Card_holder.aspx

The Parish Priest.

my3cents wrote: »

Why would they know? They don't issue the PSC cards.

ermm I don't know if you are trolling or not but the local dole office is the ONLY place that issue those cards

Kenny Logins

myshirt wrote: »

Alf had no problems did he?

Except for the crash of course.

my3cents

The Parish Priest. wrote: »

ermm I don't know if you are trolling or not but the local dole office is the ONLY place that issue those cards

My local dole office is not the same place you get your PSC from http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/SAFE-Registration-PSC-Location.aspx

Chuchote

Personally - and this is a purely personal opinion - I think that what Americans call "Driver Ed" should be part of the second level curriculum, and should include theory (teach them to indicate in time! teach them how lethal it is to hold a phone while driving!) and practice, and cover road use for pedestrians and for riding a bike, and road use for driving, before getting on to practical driving skills.

If it were equivalent to the Advanced Driving courses available to adults, all the better.

It would be well worth building a driving course in each county that could be used by every school for these lessons.

This would have the same beneficial effect on the next generation of drivers that the NCT has had on the last few generations of cars.

Kivaro

suicide_circus wrote: »

The entire process of learning to drive in this country is a farce. So convoluted, a meddling bureaucrat's wet dream. Just teach kids to drive IN SCHOOL.

They're too busy teaching them religion in school ........ you know, something tangible, real life, practical; something that will save their souls when they die ............ after they crash the car because of their lack of driving knowledge/experience.

myshirt

I actually think we should be raising the age you can get a license to 21, and the age you can drink to about 23 aswell.

Kids don't mature as fast these days with their Snapchat, Facebook, living at home until they are 30, and getting offended by everything. I just don't think they are mature enough at 18 like an 18 year old was in the past.

We often forget that it was young men and women who found this country. Their equivalents today are just dicking around staring at their phones unfortunately. Hate being cynical, but they are just not mature enough as a group. Driving license age should go up to 21, along with drinking age to 23.