replacing double doors with sliding doors. wood or alu-clad? which manufacturer?

tp25

hello all,

i'm planning to replace old double doors to rear garden with a modern sliding doors.

can those of you who have undergone such refurbishment could recommend me a good manufacturer / installer ?

I still haven't decided whether to go wooden again or alu-clad, i'm about 1.5km from the sea and it seems that every 5-6years wooden frames needs to be re-varnished.

pm's welcome

comments, observations welcome

Gumbo

A lot of money for no gain imo
When you slide one door to one side you will only have half the opening you currently have.

Unless you are widening the opening, are you?

tp25

my opening is:
W: 2400mm
H: 2100mm

I could go wider if necessary. is it big difference in price between slide and traditional double door?
where to look for a good door? I like wood, aluclad. Just paining is a bit of pain..

It doesn't need to be slide, I just thought that it would improve aesthetic looks of the living room, depending on the costs of course

Gumbo

tp25 wrote: »

my opening is:
W: 2400mm
H: 2100mm

I could go wider if necessary. is it big difference in price between slide and traditional double door?
where to look for a good door? I like wood, aluclad. Just paining is a bit of pain..

It doesn't need to be slide, I just thought that it would improve aesthetic looks of the living room, depending on the costs of course

How can you go wider?
Will you be getting someone in to knock down the wall?

In a small opening like that I'd have big French doors so that you can open both and bring the outdoors in, and the inside out (Dermot Bannon BS).

Sliding doors mean you will have one fixed pane, and one sliding door with an opening of 1100-1200 max. The French doors would provide 2300-2400 of an opening.

tp25

kceire wrote: »

How can you go wider?

cut the walls (timber frame building). But for now i wasn't thinking to go wider.

How wide would you recommend to go?

kceire wrote: »

Will you be getting someone in to knock down the wall?

yes i would need to IF i decide to go down this route

kceire wrote: »

In a small opening like that I'd have big French doors so that you can open both and bring the outdoors in, and the inside out

the entire boundary width is 3600mm and current openings is 2400mm.

kceire wrote: »

(Dermot Bannon BS).

he is an architect?

kceire wrote: »

Sliding doors mean you will have one fixed pane, and one sliding door with an opening of 1100-1200 max. The French doors would provide 2300-2400 of an opening.

i know, the thing is that in reality the left side of the french doors nearly never gets opened (so i though to leave it this way) and then the right hand side of the doors is just about 80cm wide as there are glass panels on each side of the double doors atm.

If i was to go for sliding doors then i would gain extra width as I could go 120cm of an opening (and I would lose 120cm of permament glass on the other side). I just though it would look clean...

tp25

added comments to above post

drunkmonkey

Triple glazed alu clad (can only speak for Munster joinery ones have them installed 3yrs) keep them as double doors it's less of a headache no maintenence also look better when open, Makes the room feel like one with the outside.
Sliding pocket double door would be cool but I'd dread to think how much it is.

tp25

Does that mean that slide are more pain in the longer run?

is it worth making the opening larger (more light i suppose) - The wall is a south-facing wall.

Gumbo

Timber frame.
Structural considerations.
Engineer required.
Turned a 3k job into a 8k job as new structural support required, larger opening, larger door and finishes.

What's your budget approx.

drunkmonkey

Seemingly so same goes for bifold, size is up to yourself mines just under 6ft wide seems plenty, the frame itself is about 2.5 inches so open you've got about 5ft 7, if it's in a room you use a lot I'd go triple glazed.

tp25

it's on the ground floor of a current living room which extends to the rear garden.
The weight of the roof above the living room would need to be taken to consideration. Speaking of a roof above the living room. i would love to remove all these concrete roof tiles and replace these with a sheet of toughtened glass (3.6m x 2.5m) - anyone ? if anyone knows someone who has access to such glass and it's not a crazy money or knows a person who does such work please let me know again it should be cheap

garden doors:

my budget isn't big. i would love to pay for manufacturing and agree with someone a daily rate and get it fitted in two days.

Allah snackbar

-snip- for the door and a good builder that knows his stuff for any work you want carried out outside of installation , it's up to you how much you want to spend , if you're going the same size again the door installer should do it in a few hours , you should get onto a couple of manufacturers and get quotes

Gumbo

tp25 wrote: »

it's on the ground floor of a current living room which extends to the rear garden. The weight of the roof above the living room would need to be taken to consideration (i would love to remove all these concrete roof tiles and replace these with a sheet of toughtened glass (3.6m x 2.5m) - if anyone knows someone who has access to such glass and it's not crazy money and know person who does such work please let me know

my budget isn't big. i would love to pay for manufacturing and agree with someone a daily rate and get it fitted in two days.

Then it sounds like you should stick to the size you have now and replace like for like. You cannot agree manufacturing etc as you have CE marking, glass and Construction Product Regulations.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

-snip- are not good in my experience, also if you have problems they are very bad at following up on queries.. I would go with aluminium or aluminium timber composite from Nordan.

tp25

i need to go now, will be back online this evening