The whole Aidan O Shea thing

harpsman

I really think the witch-hunt against this guy is getting out of hand, you've Breheny in the Indo, Bernard Flynn on RTE and now this geezer in an interview with kimmage
http://www.independent.ie/sport/fighting-with-shaun-edwards-pursuing-excellence-and-why-mayo-wont-win-sam-paul-kimmage-meets-fergus-connolly-35739092.html

I’m up in the booth with two of our game analysts, Frankie Roebuck and Seaghan Kearney. The whistle blows for half-time and we run to the lift. A few of the Mayo boys are there. Seaghan drops his clipboard and they start sniggering: ‘How are your stats looking now, boys?’ I wasn’t annoyed, I was staggered. I thought: ‘They think the game is over! It’s only half-time!’ “And what happened in the second half? They blew it. Write this down! Put it in block capitals! AS LONG AS I’M ALIVE MAYO WILL NEVER WIN AN ALL-IRELAND.””
“Why?” I ask.
“Well, you’ve that attitude for a start. And a midfielder, Aidan O’Shea, rushing around doing TV shows. What the ****? You wouldn’t see it in Kerry. You wouldn’t see it in Dublin. Why? Because you win your medals and then talk about it. Do what you’re going to do. Deliver: Yes, sir. No, sir. No excuses.”
“They gave it a good run last year?”
“Bah! They do it every year. I saw it when I was in Meath — glorious failure. They’re never going to do it.”
“How would you change that?”
“Well, there would be no media. It’s about The Team, The Team, The Team, not what I can do for myself. Aidan O’Shea does media for himself. He’s not doing it for the team. It’s bull****.”
“And that impairs his ability to play football, does it? Talking to journalists?”
“It’s not talking to journalists. It has nothing to do with journalists. What he’s doing is self-promotion. It’s about himself, not the team.”
“Bernard Brogan’s face has been on every billboard in Dublin. So that’s different to Aidan O’Shea?”
“Yeah. Do you want to know why? Four reasons: Celtic Cross 1, Celtic Cross 2, Celtic Cross 3, Celtic Cross 4. He’s done it. He has delivered.”
“So that’s your point? Win the medals first?”
“Yeah.”

(James Horan was on Newstalk yesterday and said he was in the lift and would have something to say once hed read the piece-:cool:.)

Seems like you're nobody unless you're reading something into some irrelevant thing Aidan O Shea is doing

WesternZulu

It's a strange one; Lee Chin has a similar profile in hurling and hasn't won anything of note but gets nothing like the negative attention than AOS gets.

It seems because he isn't of the same standard as Michael Murphy, Bernard Brogan, and Cooper that he has taken his eyes off the prize. I would argue that very few players are, that in itself is not a reason to berate him.

There seems to be an acceptance that he has only played well against so called smaller teams. He has performed in many big games, against Tyrone, Donegal and Cork just from the top of my head and he was also very good in both semi-finals the year they lost to Kerry in Limerick.
If Mayo had won the All-Ireland last year the manner in which he set up Keegan for his goal would have hailed as the key moment of the game. He made that goal the way he put the Dublin defense on the back foot.

I'm not saying he can't improve or he doesn't have bad aspects to his game (running into blind alleys) but it seems very strange that he gets so much negative press.
There are many more things that can affect his performance than media work; many successful ex players had much worse vices and managed to win All-Ireland's.

buck65

By all accounts he lead the revolution to get rid of Holmes and almost insisted on Clarke being replaced in the final in goals. Not sure really, yeah probably win something and come back then.
Lee Chin is a different character and way less available to media I'd say.

PressRun

buck65 wrote: »

By all accounts he lead the revolution to get rid of Holmes and almost insisted on Clarke being replaced in the final in goals.

By all accounts?

Sebastian Dangerfield

It's all getting a bit silly.

He's played well and influenced winning performances against just about every major county other than Kerry and Dublin. Against Kerry in the game in Limerick, he was kept off the pitch with a blood injury for a key part of the game that may have made a difference.

Yes hes flattered to deceive on a few occasions. But Donegal last won an All-Ireland, what, 4 or 5 years ago? Does that mean everything Michael Murphy has done since, and in the future if they dont win again, amounts to failure? Or does one celtic cross give you lifetime immunity from criticism?

Likewise, if Cillian O'C had scored the late free in the replay and somehow theyd won the game, would that somehow make Aidan a better player than he is now? Seems like nonsense to me. Not one of the criticism pieces Ive read seem to have any depth to them either - analysis on where his game might be falling short or what he can do to improve. Dunphy-esque commentary at best.

Gravelly

I think Connolly's point that "You wouldn’t see it in Kerry. You wouldn’t see it in Dublin. Why? Because you win your medals and then talk about it" is the key. If someone in those counties had the media profile of Aidan O'Shea, without having won anything of note, they'd be laughed out of it. Mayo make themselves out to be at the top table, but some of their players don't act like it. Lee Chin can get away with it (though he has nowhere near the media presence O'Shea has) because he and Wexford aren't telling the whole world every year that they are going to win the All-Ireland. If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk.

keeponhurling

WesternZulu wrote: »

It's a strange one; 


There seems to be an acceptance that he has only played well against so called smaller teams. He has performed in many big games,  against Tyrone, Donegal and Cork just from the top of my head and he was also very good in both semi-finals the year they lost to Kerry in Limerick.
If Mayo had won the All-Ireland last year the manner in which he set up Keegan for his goal would have hailed as the key moment of the game. He made that goal the way he put the Dublin defense on the back foot.

He has generally been very poor in finals.
Therefore he can not truly be considered a top player, so why people wonder why he does so much media.
But i do agree, he gets too much flak. It's an amateur sport, let him do what he wants.

Dyr

O'Shea gets the most flak but I would say he isn't the only one. Mayo as a county might have a bit of a big fish in small pond vibe for those lads, easy to lose the run of yourself I'd say.

I don't think O'Shea would have started for Dublin or Kerry over the last few years. I don't think he'd win a place in the Kerry midfield this year either

Fr Tod Umptious

Gravelly wrote: »

I think Connolly's point that "You wouldn?t see it in Kerry. You wouldn?t see it in Dublin. Why? Because you win your medals and then talk about it" is the key. If someone in those counties had the media profile of Aidan O'Shea, without having won anything of note, they'd be laughed out of it. Mayo make themselves out to be at the top table, but some of their players don't act like it. Lee Chin can get away with it (though he has nowhere near the media presence O'Shea has) because he and Wexford aren't telling the whole world every year that they are going to win the All-Ireland. If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk.

When you say Mayo who exactly do you mean ?

Who exactly in Mayo is doing this ?

Us fans ?, Well we are entitled to have confidence in our team.

The local media ?, What local media does not talk up their own team.

The players ?, Give me an example of when you have heard that from Mayo players

Gravelly

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

When you say Mayo who exactly do you mean ?

Who exactly in Mayo is doing this ?

Us fans ?, Well we are entitled to have confidence in our team.

The local media ?, What local media does not talk up their own team.

The players ?, Give me an example of when you have heard that from Mayo players

"Mayo 4 Sam" every. Damn. Year. Given that it's everywhere (literally!) I doubt it's a small percentage of Mayo fans that are behind it, unless there are a lot more Mayo people than I think there are.

Stoner

Gravelly wrote:

because he and Wexford aren't telling the whole world every year that they are going to win the All-Ireland. If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk.

Well Wexford aren't going out by a point in replays of semi finals or finals or being beaten in finals by a single point. I'd imagine it's the distance Mayo are advancing in the football championship rather than the players that's forming an opinion that Mayo might win it.

Lee Chin might have more to say if he was getting that far, but he's not. We can't judge him on that. If I said Wexford is going to win the Football championship this year, you'd be entitled to ask what I'm basing that on. I'd struggle to give you a reason. Different story for Mayo.

yop

Gravelly wrote: »

I think Connolly's point that "You wouldn’t see it in Kerry. You wouldn’t see it in Dublin. Why? Because you win your medals and then talk about it" is the key. If someone in those counties had the media profile of Aidan O'Shea, without having won anything of note, they'd be laughed out of it. Mayo make themselves out to be at the top table, but some of their players don't act like it. Lee Chin can get away with it (though he has nowhere near the media presence O'Shea has) because he and Wexford aren't telling the whole world every year that they are going to win the All-Ireland. If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk.

Oh christ, do you believe everything you read on the internet!

Tell us all the so called media profile that AOS has exactly and tell us where its different to Bernard Brogan or Colm Cooper.

And where are Mayo people making ourselves to be at the top table?


This will be interesting....

Stoner

Gravelly wrote:

unless there are a lot more Mayo people than I think there are.

They are all over the place in fairness.

Gravelly

yop wrote: »

Oh christ, do you believe everything you read on the internet!

Tell us all the so called media profile that AOS has exactly and tell us where its different to Bernard Brogan or Colm Cooper.

And where are Mayo people making ourselves to be at the top table?


This will be interesting....

Aidan O'Shea - 0 Celtic Crosses

Bernard Brogan - 4

Colm Cooper - 5

Gravelly

Stoner wrote: »

They are all over the place in fairness.

In more ways than one!

Stoner

Gravelly wrote:

Colm Cooper - 5

When did he get the 5th ?

yop

Gravelly wrote: »

Aidan O'Shea - 0 Celtic Crosses

Bernard Brogan - 4

Colm Cooper - 5

Explain the so called media difference.

Guessing your just another Bernard Flynn as this stage. :rolleyes:;)

Gravelly

Stoner wrote: »

When did he get the 5th ?

2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2014

Gravelly

yop wrote: »

Explain the so called media difference.

Guessing your just another Bernard Flynn as this stage. :rolleyes:;)

I just did. Colm Cooper and Bernard Brogan can shout from the treetops, they can give their opinion on every aspect of football in every media outlet they can get into. Because they earned it. I've got exactly the same amount of Celtic Crosses as O'Shea.

There's lads in Kerry with 2 All-Irelands that wouldn't get a word edgeways into a conversation about football in the pub. That's the difference.

Dyr

Stoner wrote: »

When did he get the 5th ?

Dennis Bastick has the same amount of celtic crosses as Cooper and he was a better midfielder than O'Shea

Why did he never get a media circus? :mad:

yop

Gravelly wrote: »

I just did. Colm Cooper and Bernard Brogan can shout from the treetops, they can give their opinion on every aspect of football in every media outlet they can get into. Because they earned it. I've got exactly the same amount of Celtic Crosses as O'Shea.

There's lads in Kerry with 2 All-Irelands that wouldn't get a word edgeways into a conversation about football in the pub. That's the difference.

haha, class. You win the internet today.

Gravelly

yop wrote: »

Poor fool doesn't know the difference between AI Club and County.

Doesn't know much in fairness, an empty vessel

Ooops my bad. Unlike youself, I make mistakes :rolleyes:

You're a typical Mayo lad, I'll give you that - all wind and p!ss!

Stoner

Gravelly wrote:

2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2014

Fair enough but he didn't kick a ball in 2014. He was knackered that year unless I'm completely wrong he was injured and added the the panel for the final and never played. Alan Brogan was the same in 2013. The records might say they have 3 and 5 but I'd say the players consider it 2 and 4 .

If I'm correct in saying that, my point is that we can slag off O'Shea all day for playing his heart out yet we hand it AIs to lads on panels that are good enough to win without them contributing at all.

WesternZulu

Gravelly wrote: »

There's lads in Kerry with 2 All-Irelands that wouldn't get a word edgeways into a conversation about football in the pub. That's the difference.

So by that logic Dessie Dolan and Ciaran Whelan shouldn't be let near The Sunday Game because what would they know about football; they never won an All-Ireland?

Gravelly

Stoner wrote: »

Fair enough but he didn't kick a ball in 2014. He was knackered that year unless I'm completely wrong he was injured and added the the panel for the final and never played. Alan Brogan was the same in 2013. The records might say they have 3 and 5 but I'd say the players consider it 2 and 4 .

If I'm correct in saying that, my point is that we can slag off O'Shea all day for playing his heart out yet we hand it AIs to lads on panels that are good enough to win without them contributing at all.

That's a fair enough point - but I suppose it still comes down to the fact that O'Shea is in the media far more than what his and Mayo's record could justify.

Gravelly

WesternZulu wrote: »

So by that logic Dessie Dolan and Ciaran Whelan shouldn't be let near The Sunday Game because what would they know about football; they never won an All-Ireland?

They'd be fine for the Sunday Game, just not Kerry pub conversation ;-)

DuffleBag

Stoner wrote: »

Fair enough but he didn't kick a ball in 2014. He was knackered that year unless I'm completely wrong he was injured and added the the panel for the final and never played. Alan Brogan was the same in 2013. The records might say they have 3 and 5 but I'd say the players consider it 2 and 4 .

If I'm correct in saying that, my point is that we can slag off O'Shea all day for playing his heart out yet we hand it AIs to lads on panels that are good enough to win without them contributing at all.

Incorrect again

http://hoganstand.com/Kerry/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=270398

yop

Gravelly wrote: »

Ooops my bad. Unlike youself, I make mistakes :rolleyes:

You're a typical Mayo lad, I'll give you that - all wind and p!ss!

Ah stop chief, your the lad who is coming on here and piping out "Facts" that you can't even back up.

The usual boardsie GAA expert that appears Championship time and flithers themselves for a few weeks, then the inevitable happens !:D

Keep it up though, its entertaining watching it happen.

Gravelly

yop wrote: »

Ah stop chief, your the lad who is coming on here and piping out "Facts" that you can't even back up.

The usual boardsie GAA expert that appears Championship time and flithers themselves for a few weeks, then the inevitable happens !:D

Keep it up though, its entertaining watching it happen.

I'm sure you're a real expert though. I look forward to be educated on how Mayo are definitely going to win the All Ireland this year :rolleyes:

B-D-P--

Gravelly wrote: »

"Mayo 4 Sam" every. Damn. Year. Given that it's everywhere (literally!) I doubt it's a small percentage of Mayo fans that are behind it, unless there are a lot more Mayo people than I think there are.

Well ya have to have belief.... Yea we dont win it, but we hope each year,, if we dont, sure whats the point in following??

"Mayo for 2nd place" doesnt sound as good...

Gravelly

B-D-P-- wrote: »

Well ya have to have belief.... Yea we dont win it, but we hope each year,, if we dont, sure whats the point in following??

"Mayo for 2nd place" doesnt sound as good...

True!

Marv8

Why would he turn down any media work? Hes an amateur player and is well entitled to take any extra money thats offered to him. You can be sure Lee Chin or any player would, weather they have an All Ireland or not.

Why doesnt Joe Canning get the same abuse?

yop

Gravelly wrote: »

I'm sure you're a real expert though. I look forward to be educated on how Mayo are definitely going to win the All Ireland this year :rolleyes:

PressRun

Why do people think that winning All-Irelands goes hand in hand with having a media friendly personality? Winning All-Irelands doesn't mean that someone has a media friendly personality or that that person is even interested in media work.

Also, I'm pretty sure I recall there being plenty of interest in Bernard Brogan in the media before he ever won an All-Ireland.

yop

Ah only copped she has only 10 posts ever in GAA forums, all 10 in this thread......... definitely Bernie Flynnderpants buddy here

ClanofLams

Begrudgery is mainly it. What did your man who was doing the Sindo interview with Kimmage win on a GAA field? The square root of f all. Same as posters criticising him on here I would wager.

Flynn is just trying to raise his media profile but seems to be unaware the 'cantankerous a***ole' niche is well filled by Brolly.

Stoner

DuffleBag wrote:

Incorrect again

I'm not incorrect in that he didn't kick a ball. I said I might be wrong in how the lads see it that was an opinion as stated
Fact of the matter is he didn't kick a ball that year in the championship and was added to the panel late and he gets a medal. If he counts that contribution late on while joining up in the panel during the semis and not getting a minute of football the same as training all year and scoring etc like he did in the other year just because it was a challenging year due to injury him well fair play to him.
The thing is the panel was good enough to win without him, that's how good Kerry are. Mayo simply don't have that quality of forward that they could have gooch and win without him, not alone can he have a bad day out he can play 0 minutes of football during the championship and still win.

Good to see you are back.

Radio5

PressRun wrote: »

Why do people think that winning All-Irelands goes hand in hand with having a media friendly personality? Winning All-Irelands doesn't mean that someone has a media friendly personality or that that person is even interested in media work.

Also, I'm pretty sure I recall there being plenty of interest in Bernard Brogan in the media before he ever won an All-Ireland.

Bernard is from Dublin. Their players almost inevitable attract media attention, even when they aren't winning anything much by way of All Ireland's as in time from 1995-2011.

This O'Shea thing is silly season stuff. More and more columnists out there across all types of media so they have to go down the 'Brolly' route to get attention. The insight into the camp given by the former Mayo managers hasn't helped either I'd say.

harpsman

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

When you say Mayo who exactly do you mean ?

Who exactly in Mayo is doing this ?

Us fans ?, Well we are entitled to have confidence in our team.

The local media ?, What local media does not talk up their own team.

The players ?, Give me an example of when you have heard that from Mayo players

I'd be surprised if theres anyone in Mayo saying they're GOING to win the All-Ireland; I'm sure most people would say they'll be there or thereabouts, which they have been every year since 2012.

This whole "Show me your medals" thing is bull**** anyway. Theres plenty of great players with no All-Ireland, and plenty of ordinary players with one.

harpsman

Gravelly wrote: »

"Mayo 4 Sam" every. Damn. Year. Given that it's everywhere (literally!) I doubt it's a small percentage of Mayo fans that are behind it, unless there are a lot more Mayo people than I think there are.

I think the Mayo4Sam thing is more black humour than anything

MayoAreMagic

harpsman wrote: »

I think the Mayo4Sam thing is more black humour than anything

Exactly. People seem to think that it is a claim that mayo are nailed on favourites for the all Ireland, and then take offence to this. Why they do that is lost on me to be honest. It is more about unwavering support of your county and has no inference about any other team. Now I find it a bit cringe, but there is no malice in it at all.


The dubs seem to get really riled by it for some reason, yet they themselves have their go-to 'up the dubs' line which is in fact very similar, and just as cringey at times... It makes you wonder what could mayo fans actually say that could be deemed acceptable? 'Mayo for sam but the dubs are still better'?


As for Connolly's angle of you have won nothing therefore you know nothing. I think Bernard Flynn has pretty much proved that winning all Irelands doesn't make you any more knowledgeable either, therefore why should it be a qualifier for anything other than the medal itself? How about keegan? Winner of the POTY - a far more elite award in fairness. And to do it on the losing side is even more elite. If he took on AOS' press would that make it alright? Better yet, would that make them win the all Ireland?


In truth it in fact has not anything to do with winning all Irelands. Case and point, when b brogan was poor in the first AI final last year, pat spillane whipped out the old reliable, and utterly predicable line about forgetting about endorsing things and concentrate on the football (as if that was going to make a difference to him in the few days between his column and the replay!). The whole all Irelands angle is just a handy out on this occasion.


For the record, I don't particularly like the way oshea carries on at times either. It isn't the issue people have with that, that I have the problem with, it is this, frankly, b*llsh*t pretence about it having some sort of affect on him as a player. Look at Beckham, Ronaldo, and a dozen more fancy dans besides, that were actually still at the top of their game. The whole thing is full of holes, and any self respecting sports fan would want to really take a look at themselves if they were buying into it.

danganabu

buck65 wrote: »

By all accounts he lead the revolution to get rid of Holmes and almost insisted on Clarke being replaced in the final in goals. Not sure really, yeah probably win something and come back then.
Lee Chin is a different character and way less available to media I'd say.

By all accounts, as in the lad down the pub told me??

Gravelly wrote: »

Aidan O'Shea - 0 Celtic Crosses

Bernard Brogan - 4

Colm Cooper - 5

Gravelly wrote: »

I just did. Colm Cooper and Bernard Brogan can shout from the treetops, they can give their opinion on every aspect of football in every media outlet they can get into. Because they earned it. I've got exactly the same amount of Celtic Crosses as O'Shea.

There's lads in Kerry with 2 All-Irelands that wouldn't get a word edgeways into a conversation about football in the pub. That's the difference.

Gravelly I'm sure you are a lovely chap but your are talking absolute and utter bollox here, you can't do any media work or offer any opinion unless you have already won an AI medal, christ on a bike its even more daft when you type it out :rolleyes:

But at the same time we are to put credance in what some ex woodwork teacher told Paul fcukin Kimmage, you really couldn't make it up

Gravelly

danganabu wrote: »

Gravelly I'm sure you are a lovely chap but your are talking absolute and utter bollox here, you can't do any media work or offer any opinion unless you have already won an AI medal, christ on a bike its even more daft when you type it out :rolleyes:

But at the same time we are to put credance in what some ex woodwork teacher told Paul fcukin Kimmage, you really couldn't make it up

I'm not saying that at all - I'm saying that perhaps O'Shea needs to put more effort into kicking his team mates up the arse to win that elusive all Ireland, and less into being in the media all the time. One "the curse" is broken, then he can justifiably be on TV, Radio and in the media 24/7.

Connolly is hardly just "some ex woodwork teacher" in fairness.

Stoner

MayoAreMagic wrote:

The dubs seem to get really riled by it for some reason, yet they themselves have their go-to 'up the dubs' line which is in fact very similar, and just as cringey at times... It makes you wonder what could mayo fans actually say that could be deemed acceptable? 'Mayo for sam but the dubs are still better'?

I don't think so, IMO you get riled by the Dubs a bit too much they feature a lot in your posts and anything negative around the GAA you seem to drag them into it. The recent comments are from a Meath man and an Ulster man.

Looking in there's a lot of Galway and Roscommon local rivalry around Mayo too.

The Dubs might not like references to The Kingdom or The Royal county, but I'd go along with Fr Tod on this issue that supporters don't like teams that beat them and that goes away a bit when you beat said team.
Largely the Dublin and Mayo supporters get on well here, as with the Donegal lads, we are far enough away from each other to not have a local rivalry. The Kerry lads get on well with Donegal and Mayo too, but aren't too fond of Cork.
There'd be more rivalry with Kildare and Meath traditionally and Tyrone and Kerry because of the amount of beatings they handed out to Dublin in the recent past.

Sickening as it is for the hardcore Mayo supporter, most counties wouldn't begrudge them an AI.

danganabu

Gravelly wrote: »

Connolly is hardly just "some ex woodwork teacher" in fairness.

Well if AOS can be just written off as some footballer who has 0 AI medals then i don't see why not, whats good for the goose etc. and AOS doesn't be interviewing himself btw, there is obviously a demand for it.

GAA can only make me laugh at times, we have the boys giving out about all the Rugby and Soccer coverage in the media and how disproportionate it all is, but when a GAA player interacts with the media thus raising the profile of our games he gets slaughtered as well. How many Irish rugby players or soccer players have won a world cup, and they all doing interviews the cheek of the feckers, see how silly it is now??

OldMrBrennan83

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Gravelly

danganabu wrote: »

Well if AOS can be just written off as some footballer who has 0 AI medals then i don't see why not, whats good for the goose etc. and AOS doesn't be interviewing himself btw, there is obviously a demand for it.

GAA can only make me laugh at times, we have the boys giving out about all the Rugby and Soccer coverage in the media and how disproportionate it all is, but when a GAA player interacts with the media thus raising the profile of our games he gets slaughtered as well. How many Irish rugby players or soccer players have won a world cup, and they all doing interviews the cheek of the feckers, see how silly it is now??

The thing is, I don't think anyone is "writing him off" - I'm certainly not - I'd love Mayo to win an AI, nearly everyone would (it might feckin shut them up if nothing else :rolleyes: ) the issue is, AOS is a current player. A current player who has been on the cusp of glory for years. Maybe, just maybe, his focus should be on getting the head down, keeping the mouth shut, and getting that medal. I wouldn't begrudge him anything, it just seems to me that maybe he doesn't believe himself that they'll do it, and has his eye on keeping himself in the public eye while he's playing rather than going out with a whimper. If that's the case it's understandable - he's an amateur and needs to make the most of his involvement in the game. But the truth is, if he was in any other of the top counties, he'd be focussed totally on winning an AI, or he'd be put straight. That's just how it is.

Barlett

The savaging he has received in the last week was certainly wrong - I thought Fergus O'Connor's opinion of Mayo was completely formed by whatever happened in that lift, like it's three years later and he's bringing it up in an interview so it's something he hasn't forgotten and for me he was looking for someway to stick the knife in.

On the 'Mayo4Sam' no more so than 'Up the Dubs' it's a bit of craic adds some enjoyment - christ isn't that what sport is about for us spectators?? - if you have a problem with fans getting over excited about their team reaching semi finals and finals and shouting about it - I think the problem is with you rather than anyone else.

PressRun

Patww79 wrote: »

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Fr Tod Umptious

Barlett wrote: »

The savaging he has received in the last week was certainly wrong - I thought Fergus O'Connor's opinion of Mayo was completely formed by whatever happened in that lift, like it's three years later and he's bringing it up in an interview so it's something he hasn't forgotten and for me he was looking for someway to stick the knife in.

On the 'Mayo4Sam' no more so than 'Up the Dubs' it's a bit of craic adds some enjoyment - christ isn't that what sport is about for us spectators?? - if you have a problem with fans getting over excited about their team reaching semi finals and finals and shouting about it - I think the problem is with you rather than anyone else.

In-between the drawn SF v Dublin and the replay there was a Newstalk podcast with Nathan Murphy, Liam McHale and Anthony Larry Finnerty, all Mayo men, talking about Mayo football.

And on the subject of hype either McHale or Finnerty summed it up perfectly.

They said "no set of fans should be embarrassed about being excited about their team getting to All Ireland finals"

OldMrBrennan83

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