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Arnold Schwarzenegger to work with James Cameron on new Terminator movie.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Ugh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Future war movie is all the fans have wanted since T2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭RockSalto


    Arnold and Cameron together again! Yes please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    I have absolutely no interest in this unless Cameron himself is directing it, which he won't be. Waste of time other wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    I have absolutely no interest in this unless Cameron himself is directing it, which he won't be. Waste of time other wise.

    Bit like the alien franchise, all horse manure since Cameron directed aliens in 1986.no sequel has matched that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    I don't get the hate the sequels have. Apart from "Salvation", they weren't *that* bad. They're each products of their time & to be honest, I was impressed with the last one's concept, especially as they reshot the original's scenes as they didn't have the rights to them. The only problem with them was the certificate was dropped on each one. Now that Deadpool & Logan have proved there is a market for an 18 cert movie once again, they should aim for that.

    Actually the biggest problem with Genesys was that the marketing team crapped themselves that it wasn't going to do well & revealed the twist in the trailer. Having an older terminator was handles quite well as well as the alternate timeline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Arnie is 70 (almost) but still, lets see will he be as good as he was in T2, only that and T1 are worth watching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    It's not just the storyline with Cameron, it's ability to shoot the film to a certain style that just suits the movies perfectly. All other attempts have just been sub standard sci-fi flicks that add absolutely nothing to the overall story line.

    As someone else has said already, the movie should be set in the future war.

    Oh, and bring back Michael Biehn with the 132nd under Perry!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cameron should have a gap in his schedule by around the same time that some real world Skynet equivalent is up and running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    But this time, All the terminators are replicas of OAP mobility scooters, They control the vote by controlling the majority of voters who actually vote.

    And swargenneggggerrr is infiltrating as a carer, the nemesis is the pharmacy rep who is trying to get the OAP's onto a drug that will make them too lazy to bother voting against the first draft of skynet defense program bill.

    He starts a fitness program to get the oap's out of the scooters so they can walk to vote, and save the day


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This franchise needs to die.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    OU812 wrote: »
    I don't get the hate the sequels have. Apart from "Salvation", they weren't *that* bad.

    You haven't been paying attention then! T3 is a blatant rehash of T2 (I'll describe how tomorrow evening if you care to listen to my rambling) Salvation is a pile of crap and genius is just a newer pile of steaming sh1t (autocorrect changes every 2nd word on the phone)
    The obsolete t800 has defeated every improved terminator that came after it; there is no future but what we make has been replaced with a level of fatalism and pre-determination that pisses all over the original storyline and the horse**** about having memories from parallel timelines...please!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    OU812 wrote: »
    I don't get the hate the sequels have. Apart from "Salvation", they weren't *that* bad. They're each products of their time & to be honest, I was impressed with the last one's concept, especially as they reshot the original's scenes as they didn't have the rights to them. The only problem with them was the certificate was dropped on each one. Now that Deadpool & Logan have proved there is a market for an 18 cert movie once again, they should aim for that.

    Actually the biggest problem with Genesys was that the marketing team crapped themselves that it wasn't going to do well & revealed the twist in the trailer. Having an older terminator was handles quite well as well as the alternate timeline.

    T3 is decent, never more than that but entirely watchable and the ending is fantastic, that went a long way towards redeeming it in my opinion.

    Salvation is the only one I don't really like and one I can't quite see as a Terminator film - not a bad watch in itself as a sci-fi action flick though it disappointed me immensely.

    Genysis was acceptable enough entertainment in my eyes and while Jai Courtney and Emilia Clarke hammed it up, Arnold still has the charm to largely carry it.

    Not to say that we should give them a free pass simply for being acceptable entertainment having said that - naturally when such raw potential is there it's incredibly disappointing to see such lukewarm efforts.... but Genysis could have been worse and I didn't actually dislike it.

    Though you're right, it beggars belief what they did with that trailer, unbelievable gaff.

    As for a new movie....I wouldn't take much solace in that fact that James Cameron is only serving as producer but Deadpool's Tim Miller in the chair raises the stakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    All these unnecessary sequels damage the famous 'I'll be back" line. We don't want you back anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    If Cameron was directing and it was a sequel to T2 then I could forgive all the other shi*te that came since.
    Also you know it will be crap if its rated 12's or the equivalent to whatever way the ratings are now.
    It needs to be dark and serious IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    This won't arrive till 2079 anyway Cameron still has his 57 Avatar movies to make first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    T3 is decent, never more than that but entirely watchable and the ending is fantastic, that went a long way towards redeeming it in my opinion.

    Salvation is the only one I don't really like and one I can't quite see as a Terminator film - not a bad watch in itself as a sci-fi action flick though it disappointed me immensely.

    Genysis was acceptable enough entertainment in my eyes and while Jai Courtney and Emilia Clarke hammed it up, Arnold still has the charm to largely carry it.

    Not to say that we should give them a free pass simply for being acceptable entertainment having said that - naturally when such raw potential is there it's incredibly disappointing to see such lukewarm efforts.... but Genysis could have been worse and I didn't actually dislike it.

    Though you're right, it beggars belief what they did with that trailer, unbelievable gaff.

    As for a new movie....I wouldn't take much solace in that fact that James Cameron is only serving as producer but Deadpool's Tim Miller in the chair raises the stakes.


    I actually didn't mind salvation, barring stupid things like no-one hearing a 40 foot tall walking mech until it was outside, but they also managed to squander the reveal that Sam Worthington was a terminator in the trailer, if that had come as a genuine surprise, it would have added so much to the film. They also had a semi decent chance at putting a twist on John Connor at the end of that film when he was wounded, by having his consciousness uploaded into the infiltrator chassis, as had been done to Worthington.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I can't find any reliable source for Cameron producing. Just Deadline saying he's "godfathering" it, which could mean anything. I'm also pretty sure Arnold met Cameron and received his blessing for the last three films.

    I don't really understand the rights situation with these movies and why the rights "reverting" to Cameron is something to celebrate. Rights to what? Since when do directors or screenwriters own the rights to the films they make? They always sell them to the studio. I assume what we're really talking about is Cameron's right to get listed as an exec producer and get a massive paycheque for doing sweet fa.

    If Cameron had any good ideas for another Terminator movie he would have made them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I can't find any reliable source for Cameron producing. Just Deadline saying he's "godfathering" it, which could mean anything. I'm also pretty sure Arnold met Cameron and received his blessing for the last three films.

    I don't really understand the rights situation with these movies and why the rights "reverting" to Cameron is something to celebrate. Rights to what? Since when do directors or screenwriters own the rights to the films they make? They always sell them to the studio. I assume what we're really talking about is Cameron's right to get listed as an exec producer and get a massive paycheque for doing sweet fa.

    If Cameron had any good ideas for another Terminator movie he would have made them.

    Cameron owned the IP and was approached to sell so that more could be made. He sold them and as part of the deal, the studio who bought them would relinquish rights back to him at X date for him to take back and then pitch by himself.

    Think this is pretty well documented and numerous interviews where he himself discusses it if you have a youtube.

    Typically directors are directing screenwriters material or someone elses idea or story.

    Cameron created the entire thing, wrote the script and his stipulation for the movie was he directed it.

    Think it was pretty clever as whatever about the money made from the actual films, he either got a big payout so the new ones could be made, or he earned a % from the gross for each subsequent film.

    I'd be extremely excited about a Terminator return with him and Arnie. Although I get excited about any Terminator film, serious childhood nostalgia for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Cameron owned the IP and was approached to sell so that more could be made. He sold them and as part of the deal, the studio who bought them would relinquish rights back to him at X date for him to take back and then pitch by himself.

    Think this is pretty well documented and numerous interviews where he himself discusses it if you have a youtube.

    Typically directors are directing screenwriters material or someone elses idea or story.

    Cameron created the entire thing, wrote the script and his stipulation for the movie was he directed it.

    Think it was pretty clever as whatever about the money made from the actual films, he either got a big payout so the new ones could be made, or he earned a % from the gross for each subsequent film.

    I'd be extremely excited about a Terminator return with him and Arnie. Although I get excited about any Terminator film, serious childhood nostalgia for me


    Well that explains why he lavished praise on Terminator Genysis:

    "I start to see things I recognize. It’s being very respectful of first two films. Then all of the sudden, it just swerves. And now I’m going on a journey. I feel like the franchise has been reinvigorated, like this is a renaissance."

    Then again, perhaps he genuinely liked it, in which case sombody needs to push him away from any future sequels using a barge poll....


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭Bebopclown


    They keep claiming it's going to be the start of a new trilogy and it never happens. Maybe third times the charm, also, please drop the 12A cert, make it 16 like Logan and Deadpool.


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