Camoge/Ladies Football using GAA grounds

Duffryman

Hi all

There's an interesting discussion going on at the 'Wexford Weekly' Facebook page -
https://www.facebook.com/WexfordWeekly/posts/1319587011428589

Basically sparked by a tweet from a Wexford camogie player, wondering why it is that the Wexford hurlers can have a trip away to Portugal but the camogie team don't even get a hot meal after training.

I don't want to go into the whole 'different sport/different organisation/different funding' argument. I'm just curious about one thing that came up in that discussion.

A follow-up article to the first one said that usually camogie and ladies football clubs get to use the local GAA club facilities for free. Somebody replied to say that might be true for the writer's club, but that 'in actual fact most Camogie and Ladies football clubs are now actually paying a rent to their GAA clubs for the facilities they provide.'

Is this true? What's anybody else's experience of it? Are they asked for a fee per training session or match, or for a flat annual fee? What's a typical fee in either case?

nice_guy80

Blame the Camogie association

They want to be separate

CrabRevolution

If the Camogie association want to retain total autonomy, they can't really expect handouts and free use of grounds from the GAA. You're either a fully independent, self sustaining organisation or you aren't.

callaway92

My argument would be it's because the men's hurling team generate revenue, the women's camogie team probably generate little revenue if any profit at all?

Duffryman

Thanks for the contributions, folks, but nobody has actually answered my question. It is common or not for camogie/ladies football clubs to pay rent to GAA clubs for the use of the grounds, dressing rooms, etc.? In my experience, it's not, but somebody in that thread I mentioned above claims that it is.

Stationmaster

I don't think it's common but I know of a lot of camogie clubs that would pay an annual 'contribution' to the gaa club towards field running costs so I suppose you could classify this as rent if it suited your argument.

Duffryman

Thanks for the answer. I know there's no such 'contribution' in either my home club or the one where I now live and am involved with. Just wondering if we're the exception or the rule.

bruschi

Duffryman wrote: »

Hi all

There's an interesting discussion going on at the 'Wexford Weekly' Facebook page -
https://www.facebook.com/WexfordWeekly/posts/1319587011428589

Basically sparked by a tweet from a Wexford camogie player, wondering why it is that the Wexford hurlers can have a trip away to Portugal but the camogie team don't even get a hot meal after training.

I don't want to go into the whole 'different sport/different organisation/different funding' argument. I'm just curious about one thing that came up in that discussion.

A follow-up article to the first one said that usually camogie and ladies football clubs get to use the local GAA club facilities for free. Somebody replied to say that might be true for the writer's club, but that 'in actual fact most Camogie and Ladies football clubs are now actually paying a rent to their GAA clubs for the facilities they provide.'

Is this true? What's anybody else's experience of it? Are they asked for a fee per training session or match, or for a flat annual fee? What's a typical fee in either case?

I cant say I have ever heard of camogie or ladies teams having to pay a set fee for usage of pitches. However I have heard of them having to make annual or one off contributions to the main club for the use of the grounds. They cant expect that the pitches remain marked and cut, that the clubhouse gets cleaned and kept tidy etc, electricity and hot water be paid for and that they get the use but that the main club has to pay for all the expense. It is often the case that the underage club also makes contributions too for the upkeep of the club grounds. If this is considered rent, then it is fair enough. There is little other way for a club to be maintained without costs, so all who use it should pay towards it.

danganabu

Duffryman wrote: »

Thanks for the contributions, folks, but nobody has actually answered my question. It is common or not for camogie/ladies football clubs to pay rent to GAA clubs for the use of the grounds, dressing rooms, etc.? In my experience, it's not, but somebody in that thread I mentioned above claims that it is.

I have never heard of it happening but I guess it's possible, most Camogie clubs would be also an integral part of the GAA Club, they would be part of the finance committees, take part in fundraisers, sell lotto tickets etc.

nice_guy80

Camogie clubs are expensive to run

higher affiliation fees to the Camogie association
higher insurance costs

the camogie section of our club would cost far more than the membership brought in by dues

_Brian

Yea camogie here pay extra to use the pitch as do ladies football.