Family car - SUV or others - recommendations

Irish Gunner

Hi

 Ok in the market for a new car but have to do some research on them before we decide but we are looking at SUV’s. We are looking something that will accommodate Junior whom is due to arrive soon so safety & reliability  a big consideration. I don’t drive much but Miss Gunner can do up to 100 to 140km a day to work. So need to take that into account in relation to fuel costs. Also wanted a high car so not to be bending down so much putting in the baby seat and enough boot space.  Currently we have 2 cars a 08 Golf GT sport and a 06 civic which we want to trade in so depending on their value could be looking at extra 10-15k on top of that to spend. One of the cars that we are looking at is the Seat Ateca (https://www.carwow.co.uk/seat/ateca)  we also looked at the Skoda Kodiaq (https://www.carwow.co.uk/skoda/kodiaq) but that seems more expensive. Have not tested any just liked these from checking the Net. We are looking at PCP options and need to research that a bit more.

 Just looking for anyone with kids (especially new born) that could recommend any cars as we are both clueless when it comes to Cars.

 Any tips or suggestions what to look at and other considerations that I may have missed when buying.

cheers

Lantus

You should look at big saloons as well. A lot of SUVs don't have large boots and prams etc take up space so unless it's a very big SUV, 7 seater and the last row is always folded your boot space is not great. Iso fix systems resolve a lot of bending issues as it's so quick to get the chair in and out.

The Octavia combi is 'massive' in terms of boot space. Even a regular Octavia is mind numbingly large. Worth checking out. You can get a lot for your cash in this model.

The ateca is a great car. Skoda are positioning the kodiaq as a much more luxurious option but a lot of the engines and components are the same.

As a parent you need space, space, space, reliability and cost effective motoring. Your going to have 100 things to spend your money on and car journeys are just a progression from a to b in a steady and safe manner. Hopefully quiet and stress free!

Irish Gunner

cheers
Not limiting ourselves to SUV's and have looked at the Skoda Octiva but we are not interested in the Estate version. I agree we will have other things to spend our money on other than a car. However with the high mileage Miss Gunner does for work need something decent. Although wont be doing high mileage during the first year. So like something reliable.
We both like the Ateca. However no spare tyre with this and lip at the boot that you both pay extra for. Again not test drove it yet so our choice may change.
We have not test drove anything yet and not sure of the budget until we can see what we can get on the trade in's on our own cars and what we can add to this.
Just like to hear from users whom have kids and what things they look for when buying and transporting and putting buggies, car seats, space etc. We wont be buying until late this year early next year just doing a bit of research first.

colm_mcm

With 10-15 plus trade in, will you not be under budget for the likes of an Areca?

TRS30

Ford C Max would be a high car and the 1.6 diesel would give good returns if wife's mileage is mainly motorway. Has decent enough boot for 1 kids things. Or is the S Max if you want to go bigger again.

AMKC

The Kia Optima is a lovely saloon as is the Ford Mondeo. The Mazda CX-5 is a lovely SUV all three cars well worth a look. I do have to agree with the poster above do about the Octavia. They are a lovely car with a huge boot and lots of space inside. There is not much out there that does it like an Octavia.

Irish Gunner

Think its now between the Seat Ateca and the Skoda Octiva. Plenty of space in the Octiva but just have to see what both are like to drive and also costs, with any required extras we want, and including trade in and insurance and tax.
Time to start going around a few dealers to see what we can get.

AMKC

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Think its now between the Seat Ateca and the Skoda Octiva. Plenty of space in the Octiva but just have to see what both are like to drive and also costs, with any required extras we want, and including trade in and insurance and tax.
Time to start going around a few dealers to see what we can get.

The new Mazda CX-5 is out next month. It looks really good. Could be worth waiting for if you can. It will be the newest SUV on the market.

fitz213

Electric?

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057563461/1

Irish Gunner

AMKC wrote: »

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Think its now between the Seat Ateca and the Skoda Octiva. Plenty of space in the Octiva but just have to see what both are like to drive and also costs, with any required extras we want, and including trade in and insurance and tax.
Time to start going around a few dealers to see what we can get.

The new Mazda CX-5 is out next month. It looks really good. Could be worth waiting for if you can. It will be the newest SUV on the market.

Like the look of it but a bit pricey
Electric?

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057563461/1
Not at the moment but who knows in the future
Thanks

Lantus

Your mileage for work edges you into the diesel category. The ateca d Vs p prices are almost the same so d is the obvious choice. The Octavia can see bigger differentials of up to 3k so watch that. That's a lot of mileage to recoup on capital cost. I do a 100km commute a day and only at year 5 years do I break even. On a 3 year PCP it's not worth it. Other lifetime structures may make it work out if your planning on keeping for 6 to 8 years.

Ateca looks nice and has a good boot for its class. Octavia is a really well established and good quality car. It's also zero interest so even if your buying outright I would consider PCP to save a few thousand. Ateca finance is 2500 on PCP and more on traditional finance.

Irish Gunner

Lantus wrote: »

Your mileage for work edges you into the diesel category. The ateca d Vs p prices are almost the same so d is the obvious choice. The Octavia can see bigger differentials of up to 3k so watch that. That's a lot of mileage to recoup on capital cost. I do a 100km commute a day and only at year 5 years do I break even. On a 3 year PCP it's not worth it. Other lifetime structures may make it work out if your planning on keeping for 6 to 8 years.

Ateca looks nice and has a good boot for its class. Octavia is a really well established and good quality car. It's also zero interest so even if your buying outright I would consider PCP to save a few thousand. Ateca finance is 2500 on PCP and more on traditional finance.

Cheers
Can you elaborate on the finance as that's something I have to look into when considering. Also what would be the better re-sale value car to choose? Not sure how we are going to proceed in relation to finance either loan or PCP but re-sale value would be something to consider also.

DavyD_83

Lantus wrote: »

Your mileage for work edges you into the diesel category. The ateca d Vs p prices are almost the same so d is the obvious choice. The Octavia can see bigger differentials of up to 3k so watch that. That's a lot of mileage to recoup on capital cost. I do a 100km commute a day and only at year 5 years do I break even. On a 3 year PCP it's not worth it. Other lifetime structures may make it work out if your planning on keeping for 6 to 8 years.

Ateca looks nice and has a good boot for its class. Octavia is a really well established and good quality car. It's also zero interest so even if your buying outright I would consider PCP to save a few thousand. Ateca finance is 2500 on PCP and more on traditional finance.

Hi, just looking at Octavia pricelist, based on this there seems to be 3.9% interest. can you clarify where you have seen the zero interest option?

Lantus

DavyD_83 wrote:

, based on this there seems to be 3.9% interest. can you clarify where you have seen the zero interest option?

Website indicates 4k scrappage or zero interest. Might not be every model but the PCP calculator is set on zero currently for Octavia. Check the dealer. Pricelists go out if date.

argentum

New Skoda SUV to replace the Yeti is due to be announced tonight as far as I know .It's called the Karoq and will be very similar to the Ateca

bazz26

Bob has the launch here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEZu_MTVQpo

Lantus

argentum wrote:

New Skoda SUV to replace the Yeti is due to be announced tonight as far as I know .It's called the Karoq and will be very similar to the Ateca

Looks like an ateca. Same wheelbase but other options. Release early 2018 not much good unless you can wait 8 to 9 months.

Lantus

Irish Gunner wrote:

Cheers Can you elaborate on the finance as that's something I have to look into when considering. Also what would be the better re-sale value car to choose? Not sure how we are going to proceed in relation to finance either loan or PCP but re-sale value would be something to consider also.

Resale value is hard to gauge. Ateca is new but seems good. Octavia has pretty good residual values because it's so well established and renowned.

In terms of finance what value are you trading in? Are you looking to keep for x years or replace more frequently?

Casati

I believe Ateca's ordered for Ireland all come with spare wheels, your dealer will confirm.

Personally I'd go with the 1.6 Ateca as it will fit the bill and the pricing and spec is good. I believe it's six speed also where as the Octavia is a five speed.

Irish Gunner

Lantus wrote: »

Irish Gunner wrote:

Cheers Can you elaborate on the finance as that's something I have to look into when considering. Also what would be the better re-sale value car to choose? Not sure how we are going to proceed in relation to finance either loan or PCP but re-sale value would be something to consider also.

Resale value is hard to gauge. Ateca is new but seems good. Octavia has pretty good residual values because it's so well established and renowned.

In terms of finance what value are you trading in? Are you looking to keep for x years or replace more frequently?

cheers
We are trading in a 08 Golf GT with 50k on the clock (yes I don't use it that much) and an 06 Honda with plenty on the clock. Depending on what we get for these is depending on what extra we can add. We won't be changing it for a long time as not one to update cars regularly until it breaks down or costs to much to run.

photosmart

Just updating this as I'm also considering octavia or ateca

Ateca is now 4000 scrappage. What that means in practice is that its the same
as octavia with 0% pcp finance


ie Ateca PCP interest 2500 give or take plus theres a 1500 to 2000 discount on octavia so taken together if you put in the same "deposit" in the finance calculator then

Octavia with 3000 deposit at 0% pcp ambition spec is around 300 pm
Ateca with 3000 deposit and 4000 "scrappage" is around 300 pm

So for me its either base spec 1.6 Ateca or ambition spec octavia.

Note that base spec ateca has air con and 6 speed gearbox whereas base spec octy doesn't have air con and has 5 speed gearbox

My tuppence

Irish Gunner

Just got a mail from Skoda saying that  the Karoq will go on Irish Roads in 2018 and will be available to test drive an order in the 4th qtr of this year
So may hold out and test drive this and then decide what is best Ateca or Karoq and what we can afford with trade ins

photosmart

thinkin similar if my 2003 240k mile car holds out:pac:

James Forde

The 4k scrappage on the Ateca has me interested again. Any conditions on the car that you can trade in I wonder.

photosmart

An addendum to my earlier post

I enquired with a Seat deal and one dealer told me that 4000 scrappage only applies to the top spec model which is around 35k which rules it out as an option for me.

However another dealer said he'd give me 5000 scrappage on the 2lt diesel
se model which wouldn't be a bad deal as it would bring down the price from 32-33 ish to 27-28 ish (k)

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TheSunRise

Have a look at peugeot 3008 it seems well made car and most economy suv

Irish Gunner

Beginning to look more at 2nd hand cars as PCP putting me off. Possible looking at buying up North and looking at the Mazda and the Hyundai also.
Now to find good dealer up North to see if they can find me one.

Irish Gunner

Car shopping this weekend looking at the below

•  Seat Ateca

• Ford Kuga

• Kia Sportage

• Hyundai Tucson

• Mazda CX-5

 Most of these are available via second hand or Demo modes and there are other SUV from Opel and Renault that are new but I would rather get second hand. Reading all the reviews the Ateca comes out the best  and its relatively new but would like users opinions on the others if they own one or have experience. Aiming to have made a decision soon as I would say dealers would be looking to give deals in second half of the year, correct? So July could be good month to get these ? Planning on keeping it a good while so thus thinking re sale value of Seat might be better as newer model? Also need to take into account costs but won’t be spending anything more than 30k and that’s pushing it. Also looking at going up North to see a few so that’s another option

 All opinions welcome

photosmart

Hi there

Was looking at an ateca myself and there's a deal on 2.0se 4x4 models
at moment if you have a scrappage car (but they may give you the discount anyways)

Its 33k-4/5k which is around 29k. Thats a lot of crossover for your money

Irish Gunner

I am swaying towards the Ateca and just trying to get the best deal. Want to try out the Peugeot 3008 and possible the Hyundai and Ford Kuga and make decision soon