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Kill your babies - 90's edition

  • 12-05-2017 6:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭


    Hello boardsies, this game is stolen from other internet forums/videos etc.
    Below are the rules.
    I thought it'd be fun to have a go and see how we get on.
    If it goes well, then no doubt we can have future iterations for
    -SNES, 2000's, PS1, Megadrive, etc etc

    I picked the list of games, mostly from what I know to be some of the best games of the 90s. I know YOUR favourite game may not be there, but I tried to cater for most tastes and give a 'general' list.
    Obviously you can make you own list next time if you'd like :P

    This doesn't constitute the "BEST GAME OF THE 90's" , but just a general boards.ie favourite baby maybe :P...or one of. At the end of the day it's just a fun game and will be interesting to see why people save or kill off certain ones. (There is often a 'save' rule whereby only once, and once per game, that game can be saved....but for the sake of learning and trying out the game I'll leave it out, maybe future versions can use it)
    Rule #1: When you make a kill, give your reason why you are killing. Just taking it out isn't all that inspiring. Whether you truly dislike it, you strike out of revenge, you feel that there are other important titles that should have made it, or you have legitimate critiques, explaining your kill is necessary to validate its death. Yes, even to those of you who kill because they're good (Because that makes sense =-D)

    Rule #2: Please keep the updated list for the benefit of other players. Cross through your kill to identify what's been chosen.

    Rule #3: You may kill another game after only four other people have made a kill OR if 12 hours have passed from the last overall kill (not necessarily your own). This should be plenty of time for others to get involved.

    Rule #4: If you fail to give a reason, make a 2nd kill without allowing the time to pass/proper amount of players a turn, or if there is an unforeseen issue up for potential review, your kill may not be recognized. This rule is subjective to the situation and hopefully will not be implemented.

    Rule #5: We will have a straw poll for the final two. Please vote for the one you want to win, not lose.

    Let me know if you have any questions. Your kills are your own, so be ruthless, uncompromising, and most importantly:

    HAVE FUN!!!

    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Which baby do we save ! 20 votes

    Castlevania
    0%
    Command and Conquer
    35%
    super_furryRetr0gamerShaneUPotential-MonkeRelikkYouSavedMyLifePaul196 7 votes
    Chrono Trigger
    65%
    Canis LupusNailzSeantheManSolvableKnaveyermanoffthetvbrianregan09Maximus AlexanderahnowbrowncowLittle CuChulainneeguy[Deleted User]D0NNELLYMr Crispy 13 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    SeantheMan wrote: »

    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Spyro. I didn't like him and could never get into it. I understood Playstation was trying to make a 'mascot', but he didn't do it for me...it felt too 'kiddy' at a time when Playstation was kind of pushing things with games like Silent Hill, Resident Evil and Metal Gear. Also I thought crash was a better mascot.
    Anyways, I'm killing Spyro. Get rekt dragon !


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Spyros is grand but it's mario 64 for babies. Nuke it.
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Taking out Jet Moto because, really? What the hell is this doing on a list of best anything. In a decade that gave us some of the best racers ever like Sega rally, f-zero X, Colin McRae, mario kart etc this was the best you could do? Crash team racing is the same but only stays on for being only slightly more meh than jet moto. CTR and jet moto are two average games that make me wonder when everyone started fooling themselves that they were some sorts of classics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    SeantheMan wrote: »


    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I presume that is supposed to be Final Fantasy VII
    I know how much loved this and it may be just my predjudice against JRPGs but I bought this at the time after all the rave reviews and then I played it.
    Cue starting animation, ok now onto the actual game
    walk a few steps, Fight! that was interesting. walk a few more steps, Fight! OK fine
    walk a few more steps, Fight! ah here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Spyros is grand but it's mario 64 for babies. Nuke it.



    Taking out Jet Moto because, really? What the hell is this doing on a list of best anything.

    Honestly it was oversight on my part, I cut the original list from another thread and quickly modded most of it...must have slipped through...apologies. I'd have nuked it too.
    There should be other games on there obviously...but being it's a trial run I didn't wanna make the list too big etc. Sorry.
    Skerries wrote: »
    I presume that is supposed to be Final Fantasy VII
    I know how much loved this and it may be just my predjudice against JRPGs but I bought this at the time after all the rave reviews and then I played it.
    Cue starting animation, ok now onto the actual game
    walk a few steps, Fight! that was interesting. walk a few more steps, Fight! OK fine
    walk a few more steps, Fight! ah here!

    Nope. FF7 is also on the list.
    Guilty pleasure fact....FF8 is my favourite Final Fantasy :p
    I know people hate the abuse you can do with thr Junction system..but it was fun. It also had a no encounter Junction...which would fix your problem. Also..Triple Triad :)....thanks for killing one of my babies...heathen !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Going with Half Life. :eek:
    I know everyone loves it and HL2, but I never fell in love with it. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine game, but it has led to one of the biggest mass disappointments / crusades in relation to HL3, and I think everyone should just accept it and move on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    No Planescape Torment or Baldurs Gate? Damn right I'll be vindictive...
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Just be glad it wasn't Chrono Trigger...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Abusing the junction system was the best part of ff8. It was everything else that was a chore. Still that system was so brilliantly broken that it is still heaps of fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,821 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    SeanTheMan wrote:
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    Super Mario World.

    It's worse than SMB3, and not as fast/fun/inventive as Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country 2 or Sonic & Knuckles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Corvo


    This is actually really tough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Chrono Trigger
    Corvo wrote: »
    This is actually really tough!

    There are 3 I'd love to Save, but alas, that feature hasn't been installed yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    [S]Final Fantasy VII[/S]
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    [S]Jet Moto[/S]
    [S]Super Mario World[/S]
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    [S][B]Starcraft[/B][/S]
    [S]Final Fantasy VIII[/S]
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    [S]Half Life[/S]
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    [S]Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer[/S]
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    

    Spammy spammy click click. Muddy, soulless graphics. Something about additional pylons. I never understood the attraction to this and it is with great mirth in my heart that I plunge a dagger into Starcraft. Give me a bit of C&C any day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Tomb Raider gave me too many unrealistic expectations as a teenager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Tekken 3.

    Just because of Eddy. **** Eddy and my housemate who played him all the time. Bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Kill Shenmue. I played it shortly after it first released for about 2-3 hours. It was filled with real life kind of minigames like getting a job at the docks and training to fight, but as cool and "groundbreaking" as all this was it just wasn't very fun from a gameplay perspective. Because these are games after all, to be played....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Such savagery....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Super Mario 64 has to go!!!!
    Because it is down on that list twice ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Removed duplicate Mario64, thanks.

    Also was wondering what happened to FF7, then seen Gizmo's vindictive post :confused::confused::(:p

    Anyways, I'm gonna kill Roller Coaster Tycoon. Feel like the easiest kill among what's left for me personally as I didn't really play or get into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Maybe if people could leave out the quotes so that the next person can "quote" and have the list, as the list in a quote won't show when "quoting" your reply... That's slight confusing... Just take out all quotation marks.

    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Pokemon Red/Blue, because i just could never get into it. Don't like the FF style fighting system, and people have already removed 2 of my favourite games, so up yours Pokemon fans!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    How can you be so cruel !!!
    Monster !!!

    pikachu-crying.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)

    Oh this brought such a massive smile to my face!!! :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Oh this brought such a massive smile to my face!!! :D:D:D

    Yeah, I like a good joke too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Yeah, I like a good joke too.

    Oh doesn't the truth just hurt... /MarioSonicFanWar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    I played Sonic after Mario and never looked at another Mario game after that bar one of the DS Mario games. The speed at which the game played at just brought the platform genre to the next level. Shame the series became garbage after the first 3 games whereas Mario has been considered consistently good.

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money

    Funny you should ask.....as it's already in production. Enjoy :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Sonic on Nintendo Switch, the gods have forsaken us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Sonic on Nintendo Switch, the gods have forsaken us

    Sonic has been appearing on Nintendo systems and alongside Nintendo characters for the last 15 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    I played Sonic after Mario and never looked at another Mario game after that bar one of the DS Mario games. The speed at which the game played at just brought the platform genre to the next level. Shame the series became garbage after the first 3 games whereas Mario has been considered consistently good.

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money


    Well they tried a few years back with Sonic 4 which wasn't that well recieved. I also completely disagree with the idea of the Sonic franchise taking platforming to a new level. When the game tried actual platforming, ie: jumping puzzles, it was a horrible mess. When you compare the tightness of Mario's controls to Sonic there was only one winner. All it had going for it was the speed gimmick, which was often just a glorified railroad where you had little to no control over Sonic. I'd much rather see something like Ori and the Blind Forest 2 than another 2d Sonic game.

    Speaking of bad controls I'll kill Resident Evil 2 cause **** those awful controls (Still enjoyed the game back in the day mind).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)

    Ocarina of Time.

    Because like a lot of early 3d games, it has aged like crap with some awful moments in it.

    Good video on why its kind of a crap game and its flaws.



    Also because I'm an asshole. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    I think saying a game has aged badly isn't the greatest reason to take a game out. Arguably most on that list have aged badly.

    Zelda was, at the time, an absolute wonder. Apart from that stinking freaking water temple the game was brilliant.

    I agree with your last sentence :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Updated list to include Moist Bread's killing of Resi 2.

    I'm gonna kill Diablo, those Dungeon Crawlers weren't my thing back in the day, though I've since played a few and only yesterday was playing Diablo 3.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Crash Team Racing should go because it isn't as good as Speed Freaks, a game Sony buried under a lack of support.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    I think saying a game has aged badly isn't the greatest reason to take a game out. Arguably most on that list have aged badly.

    Zelda was, at the time, an absolute wonder. Apart from that stinking freaking water temple the game was brilliant.

    I agree with your last sentence :P

    A good game will be good forever. When something has aged then all it means is that the flaws it has become more apparent and less forgivable for instance technical issues at the time if it was pushing technical boundaries. Ocarina is an amazing game but it's built on an engine that is ready to collapse on itself with the slightest breeze.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Took out Silent Hill because it shouldn't be in the running if Resident Evil 2 isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Crash Team Racing should go because it isn't as good as Speed Freaks, a game Sony buried under a lack of support.

    In FUTURE If you want it gone then just repost the last list posted with the addition of CTR killed and your reason.
    I can't accept people just saying ABC should be killed but not posting actual lists (just for clarity's sake and the hassle it saves others going through previous killers)
    The above should go for everyone.

    Looks like CuChulainn added it anyways.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    .

    I'm killing Mario 64 because as good as it was I was a massive fan of the original Mario Brothers games on the SNES and NES the side scrolling platforms were just so good for me as much as I played it the 3D just never did it for me it , It's the same reason I'd have buried Spyro if someone else didn't' get there before me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Street fighter 2 because while every other fighter evolved and improved, they just sat on their arses and thought up ways to re-release this one again...also, it's crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    I'm killing Street fighter 2 because while every other fighter evolved and improved, they just sat on their arses and thought u ways to re-release this one again...also, it's crap.

    You're a bad man....but not much left to choose from now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Secret of Monkey Island is DEAD! Played the remake a few years back and it was a pain in the arse. Use chicken on cable?! Wow how didn't I think of that, I must be thick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    ShaneU wrote: »
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Secret of Monkey Island is DEAD! Played the remake a few years back and it was a pain in the arse. Use chicken on cable?! Wow how didn't I think of that, I must be thick!

    You monster


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'm killing Mario 64 because as good as it was I was a massive fan of the original Mario Brothers games on the SNES and NES the side scrolling platforms were just so good for me as much as I played it the 3D just never did it for me it , It's the same reason I'd have buried Spyro if someone else didn't' get there before me

    You're equating Spyro with Mario 64?
    You've stopped taking the lithium, haven't you?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    ShaneU wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Somewhere along the lines Gran Turismo 2 got left out so I put it back in.

    And then promptly crossed it off.

    Gran Turismo 2 = Pok?mon + Cars - fun

    Can't think of a more boring racer to play, I'd much rather something more arcade like.

    Also I have a grudge as it was the only game my brother would play so when he played it I couldn't play the playstation. Also he broke my controller firing it off the ground after messing up one of the trials where you had to take a ridiculous American muscle car around a bend in Laguna Seca. After 2 weeks trying it he made the corner and passed the line, 0.12 seconds over the time limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    I was going to kill Doom because its not actually as good as everyone made out back in the day. Its just an upgraded Castle Wolfenstein, sure the new Doom is 100 times better than it. Can't even look up or down ffs

    BUT

    But...Look at Goldeneye hidden way there in the middle of a bunch of dead bodies playing dead so nobody will kill it. But its gotta die. The console community creamed their pants when this was released, considered it to be one of the best FPS games ever made. Gimmie a break. Like Halo its just too little to late. While Goldeneye was being heralded by the console angels the rest of us where playing real first class shooters on PC like Quake, Quake 2 and Doom. Yeah even Doom...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Jesus how did I miss Metal Gear Solid. A game that relied on irritating camera angles and that stupid cardboard box.

    EDIT by the way, looking at what is left the clear winner now is Sys Shock 2. If it doesn't win I've lost all faith in this forum.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    This thread is a lot less fun than I thought it would be when I read the OP, so much grudge-settling and vindictiveness in here :P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Jesus how did I miss Metal Gear Solid. A game that relied on irritating camera angles and that stupid cardboard box.

    EDIT by the way, looking at what is left the clear winner now is Sys Shock 2. If it doesn't win I've lost all faith in this forum.



    Says the man who killed MGS!!!
    WTF !!! Shocking. I didn't 'rely' on either. Completely horrible execution of a great game ......shocking.

    If I had implemented the "1 save" rule, I'd have used my SAVE just now to save MGS.

    Instead, I'm gonna kill.....SYSTEM SHOCK 2. Because I didn't have a PC capable of running such games at that time which annoyed me :( , and I have never gotten into it since (waiting for the remaster or whatever it is of SS1 to finish).:)
    Also, the revenge kill kind of pushed me in that direction :P

    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm going for Age of Empires 2. I played it a few years after it came out, loved it for a week, then played Shogun Total War, which crapped all over it.

    Going back to population caps after having large scale battles just felt like a huge step backwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time[/quote]

    I feel that it had to be an outsider who comes in and does what the rest of ye can't.

    Doom. Dead.

    The most repet​itive game ever released. No story so at least it couldn't not make sense.

    Hat tip to Club Doom though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Ok then C&C wins.... someone has to kill Castlevania.

    By the by killing Sys Shock 2 out of spite was poor form. You may not be forgiven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    And we are left with

    1. Castlevania
    and
    2. Command and Conquer.

    I'm not sure anyone could have predicted these results.

    Honestly with 3 games left I was sure DOOM would be in the Top 2.
    Damn you DONNELLY for leaving us with this choice :P

    I have added the final 2 to the poll as per original post.
    Please vote for the one you want to SAVE.

    The poll is open for 2 days and then it will be closed. Results are final I guess.


    **Sidenote**
    The game itself seems to have worked well and had many different participants. I guess we all have a general idea of how it works. There is the possible 'SAVE' rule for next time which can be used ONCE only by each participant (to save you must have already have voted on something) .
    I guess we'll see if it's implemented in the next game or not.

    There are plenty of options for the next game, for whoever wants to compile a list or genre or start a new thread .
    Games of 00's, Nintendo games, Megadrive Games, 2d games, FPS etc etc


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