Formula 1 2017: Round 4 - Spanish Grand Prix

Harika

Round 1 of Europe, everyone should have a lot of update and every team except of McLaren will be doing a lot of laps on Friday to test them.



Friday Grand Prix first practice Sky Sports F1 09:00
Friday Grand Prix second practice live Sky Sports F1 4 13:00
Saturday Grand Prix third practice live Sky Sports F1 10:00
Saturday Grand Prix qualifying live Sky Sports F1 13:00
Sunday Grand Prix live Sky Sports F1 13:00

We will see if Mercedes or Ferrari will be stronger after the first rounds of updates, will RedBull catch up and will the first win motivate Bottas to a streak like Häkkinen did when he finally started winning?

Jordan 199

Some of the Force India front wing.

flazio

Broadcasting notes.
Sky Sports are doing their usual thing.
This is not a live race on Channel 4.
Eir Sports are showing Fp1 live but FP2 is deferred until 10:30pm because they have live cricket of all things. However the deferral has its advantages as Eir tends to pause coverage during ad breaks so you don't miss anything unlike when it's live. All other sessions are live.

Jordan 199

Hopefully Red Bull can close the gap to Ferrari and Mercedes. It would be great if there was more than two drivers in the championship race.

Jordan 199

Ferrari have gone retro with their car numbers:





Very nice.

Charlie-Bravo

Scoops anyone?

Joeface

Last years poll was 1:22.00 HAM , and Kyvat had fastest lap 1:26.948 , I wonder if the Upgrades will provide a big enough Jump in time over them. More than the 2 sec we have been seeing in the previous races

skipper_G

Alonso stopped on track already in a cloud of smoke, I keep thinking it can't get any more embarrassing. Wrong I guess

Joeface

1 lap is shockingly bad. Appears someone didn't tighten something , Autosport have it up that the car just dumped fluids and that was it.

skipper_G

Joeface wrote: »

1 lap is shockingly bad. Appears someone didn't tighten something , Autosport have it up that the car just dumped fluids and that was it.

You could see the engine just sort of blow up in a cloud of smoke, seized all the hydraulics and dumped all the fluids. It was pouring out of the back when they lifted the car with the forklift

Simon Gruber Says

HigginsJ

So Alonso is not coming back from Indy Car I take it? It is reaching beyond comical levels at this point. Why would you even bother turning up to the track if you were Alonso or Van Doorne.

They seem to be getting worse, which is an accomplishment I guess.

Harika

Pole was last year 1:22 and Hamiltons time now already 1:21.5

Joeface

LAP COUNT
Pos Driver Team Laps
1 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 26
2 Bottas FIN Mercedes 27
3 RÀikkönen FIN Ferrari 21
4 Vettel GER Ferrari 20
5 Verstappen NED Red Bull 22
6 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 17
7 Magnussen DEN Haas 22
8 Grosjean FRA Haas 22
9 Hülkenberg GER Renault 24
10 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 18
11 Perez MEX Force India 21
12 Ocon FRA Force India 21
13 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 22
14 Massa BRA Williams 32
15 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 15
16 Ericsson SWE Sauber 23
17 Wehrlein GER Sauber 24
18 Stroll CAN Williams 34
19 Sirotkin RUS Renault 10
20 Alonso ESP McLaren 1/2

LAP TIMES
Pos Driver Team Time
1 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1'21.521
2 Bottas FIN Mercedes 1'21.550
3 RÀikkönen FIN Ferrari 1'22.456
4 Vettel GER Ferrari 1'22.600
5 Verstappen NED Red Bull 1'22.706
6 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 1'23.084
7 Magnussen DEN Haas 1'23.670
8 Grosjean FRA Haas 1'23.758
9 Hülkenberg GER Renault 1'23.993
10 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 1'24.004
11 Perez MEX Force India 1'24.188
12 Ocon FRA Force India 1'24.324
13 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 1'24.400
14 Massa BRA Williams 1'24.618
15 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 1'24.642
16 Ericsson SWE Sauber 1'24.966
17 Wehrlein GER Sauber 1'25.182
18 Stroll CAN Williams 1'25.919
19 Sirotkin RUS Renault 1'26.293
20 Alonso ESP McLaren -

To be Fair , Vandoorne had a pretty normal if not good session for Honda. so its not all terrible for them just Pretty bad

skipper_G

So Ferrari a second off Mercedes and Red Bull only a tenth off Ferrari. On first evidence it would appear Mercedes & Red Bull upgrades have brought some big performance gains, Ferrari not yet but are they sandbagging

Harika

skipper_G wrote: »

So Ferrari a second off Mercedes and Red Bull only a tenth off Ferrari. On first evidence it would appear Mercedes & Red Bull upgrades have brought some big performance gains, Ferrari not yet but are they sandbagging

All used their hard tyres, where they have two sets. One for Friday morning and one to hand back unused after the race.

Zcott

So Alonso disappeared back to his hotel to play tennis, apparently...could hardly blame him.

Ghost Train

Weird how performance varies so widely from track to track with Ferrari and Mercedes, seems Ferrari have not up to speed yet today

Joeface

FP2
Pos Driver Team Laps
1 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 37
2 Bottas FIN Mercedes 36
3 Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 33
4 Vettel GER Ferrari 35
5 Verstappen NED Red Bull 26
6 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 33
7 Hülkenberg GER Renault 37
8 Palmer GBR Renault 41
9 Massa BRA Williams 36
10 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 30
11 Grosjean FRA Haas 33
12 Ocon FRA Force India 35
13 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 33
14 Perez MEX Force India 30
15 Magnussen DEN Haas 32
16 Ericsson SWE Sauber 34
17 Stroll CAN Williams 35
18 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 24
19 Wehrlein GER Sauber 31
20 Alonso ESP McLaren 18
TIMES
Pos Driver Team Time
1 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1'20.802
2 Bottas FIN Mercedes 1'20.892
3 Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 1'21.112
4 Vettel GER Ferrari 1'21.220
5 Verstappen NED Red Bull 1'21.438
6 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 1'21.585
7 Hülkenberg GER Renault 1'21.687
8 Palmer GBR Renault 1'21.992
9 Massa BRA Williams 1'22.015
10 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 1'22.265
11 Grosjean FRA Haas 1'22.371
12 Ocon FRA Force India 1'22.520
13 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 1'22.693
14 Perez MEX Force India 1'22.722
15 Magnussen DEN Haas 1'23.007
16 Ericsson SWE Sauber 1'23.082
17 Stroll CAN Williams 1'23.221
18 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 1'23.236
19 Wehrlein GER Sauber 1'23.599
20 Alonso ESP McLaren 1'24.077

Jordan 199

Mercedes bargeboards.

Phoenix Wright

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Ferrari have gone retro with their car numbers:





Very nice.

Are you subtly hinting that the thread title should be Round 5 instead of Round 4? :P

Jordan 199

Phoenix Wright wrote: »

Are you subtly hinting that the thread title should be Round 5 instead of Round 4? :P

I didn't even notice it was round five until now. You sir are on the ball.

skipper_G

Jordan 199 wrote: »

I didn't even notice it was round five until now. You sir are on the ball.

The rest of us are clearly not! Good spot Phoenix

Phoenix Wright

It's an easy mistake, the Russian Grand Prix was a pretty forgettable race after all :pac:

Ghost Train

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Mercedes bargeboards.

Paint job does well to hide the complexities of it

The new Mercedes thin nose is a big change

Jordan 199

The engine feels good, much slower than before. Amazing.

Mike Litoris

Jordan 199 wrote: »

The engine feels good, much slower than before. Amazing.

Funny and all but this really hurts being a fan of Alonso.

Jordan 199

I was looking at some stats for the Spanish GP, and the last ten races had ten different winners.

2007: Massa

2008: Raikkonen

2009: Button

2010: Webber

2011: Vettel

2012: Maldonado

2013: Alonso

2014: Hamilton

2015: Rosberg

2016: Verstappen

Could Bottas be a new winner here this year? Well he certainly has a good chance.

Ghost Train

That's a pretty cool stat

skipper_G

Vettel has a water leak, Ferrari having to change his engine as we speak. Desperately trying to get it done before qualy

Ghost Train

Bottas also had some issues last night, only got a few laps in P3 after two engine changes

Pirelli lowering the tyre pressure limit today, which should improve performance, less sliding around than yesterday, did see Ferrari do a bit better this morning

skipper_G

I liked Damon Hill back in the day, but he's not a great analyst.

He reckons Renault are putting all the resources into Hulk's car, that explains why Palmer is so rubbish...

It's plausible in F1 but doesn't change the fact that Palmer is still rubbish up against Hulk

Mike Litoris

skipper_G wrote: »

I liked Damon Hill back in the day, but he's not a great analyst.

He reckons Renault are putting all the resources into Hulk's car, that explains why Palmer is so rubbish...

It's plausible in F1 but doesn't change the fact that Palmer is still rubbish up against Hulk

Forced to watch Sky this weekend too. It's tough going. That Kravitz guy is just awful.

skipper_G

Well that was almost a massive screw up with Ferrari. A lesser driver might have just said "okay I turn it off now", they are lucky they have Vettel in that car

Delboy2015

skipper_G wrote: »

Well that was almost a massive screw up with Ferrari. A lesser driver might have just said "okay I turn it off now", they are lucky they have Vettel in that car

Fair play to Vettel, handled it very well.

Simon Gruber Says

Sainz 8th fastest in Q1, Kyvat last and out.

skipper_G

Fair play to Wehrlein for getting into Q2. What happened Kvyat?! Last place while Sainz is in the top 10. Can't say the rest are much of a surprise

Ghost Train

Alonso into Q3, excellent

skipper_G

Both Force India's in Q3, I'm very happy. And then Alonso gets into Q3 as well! I'm speechless right now........

Fernando Alonso Driving God

Ghost Train

skipper_G wrote: »

Both Force India's in Q3, I'm very happy. And then Alonso gets into Q3 as well! I'm speechless right now........

Fernando Alonso Driving God

Is was great to see the honda lads smiling

skipper_G

Story of qualy is Alonso for me, how the hell did he put it in 7th. Just wow

Charlie-Bravo

Savage job by Alonso in the McHonda.

Ghost Train

These interviews must be a new idea from liberty media

flazio

Ghost Train wrote: »

These interviews must be a new idea from liberty media

Wonder if the t-shirt guns are as well.

Cool_CM

Delighted for Alonso, hopefully the gremlins will hold off for him tomorrow.

Mitch Connor

Shows how tough that final sector is. All the top 4 drivers were significantly up on the pole time heading into the final sector (Hamilton more than .2) up and all lost a huge chunk before crossing the line.

flazio

Let's just let this sink in for a minute, both Force Indians and both Williams were beaten today by a Honda.

Also, imagine if Vettel had followed instructions to park it up. Should be interesting tomorrow.

LollipopJimmy

Didn't record for me ffs... hopefully sky have it up on demand shortly

AMKC

Amazing job by Alonso to get that Honda into Q3 and then into 7th. Thinking maybe Alonso heading to America after this now for the Indy 500 and missing out on Monoco might not be the best time but you can,t blame him. Maybe that and being at his home race just inspired him even more to just drive the absolute b,alls off that Honda. It was great seeing the Honda crew smiling. Hope he gets to finish in the points tomorrow.

Ghost Train

Do setanta/eir have the channel4 feed live? Might check tomorrow

Charlie-Bravo

Yes, Eir Sport 1 carry the C4 (F1 world feed) commentary for the session i.e. from 5 mins before the session starts.

What's annoying is that Eir Sport 1 is not in HD, unless I'm missing something??