Too much grass

The part time boy

I know a lot of people are getting tight on grass but I actally too much at the moment .

I sell quite of bit of meading so I grazed a bit of that and also grazed my own sillage ground . Took a bit longer than I taugh so my grazing ground is after getting strong.

My quistion is am a better off moving cattle before they fully graze it out fully than waiting.

I have 35 cattle in the mob and this morning they could have had a day / half day . But I decided to move them .

Before anyone talks about cutting some for sillage that not really a option. Grazing ground is going on 40 years old. It's actally great for growing grass better than 10 year old grass in another field . However I cut a bit if sillage of it few years ago and it took 12 months for it to come back !

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rangler1

The part time boy wrote: »

I know a lot of people are getting tight on grass but I actally too much at the moment .

I sell quite of bit of meading so I grazed a bit of that and also grazed my own sillage ground . Took a bit longer than I taugh so my grazing ground is after getting strong.

My quistion is am a better off moving cattle before they fully graze it out fully than waiting.

I have 35 cattle in the mob and this morning they could have had a day / half day . But I decided to move them .

Before anyone talks about cutting some for sillage that not really a option. Grazing ground is going on 40 years old. It's actally great for growing grass better than 10 year old grass in another field . However I cut a bit if sillage of it few years ago and it took 12 months for it to come back !

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better to graze it out....anything they don't graze is no good the next round.
I mow paddocks here and find they eat more of it when it's wilted and apparently this'll be a good week for wilting..... like you I'm finding it hard to keep ahead of the grass despite having 30% less land with more sheep around.
I'm referring to sheep here where it's vital to keep the grass short

Mooooo

The part time boy wrote: »

I know a lot of people are getting tight on grass but I actally too much at the moment .

I sell quite of bit of meading so I grazed a bit of that and also grazed my own sillage ground . Took a bit longer than I taugh so my grazing ground is after getting strong.

My quistion is am a better off moving cattle before they fully graze it out fully than waiting.

I have 35 cattle in the mob and this morning they could have had a day / half day . But I decided to move them .

Before anyone talks about cutting some for sillage that not really a option. Grazing ground is going on 40 years old. It's actally great for growing grass better than 10 year old grass in another field . However I cut a bit if sillage of it few years ago and it took 12 months for it to come back !

I

When lads mean cut strong paddocks they don't mean to leave it bulk up they mean to cut it straight away, may only be a few bales to the acre. When it's cut like that I guarantee it'll grow back faster than topping it after cows leave half it behind and you will have better grass in the next round, if there was a bit of rain coming you could throw out a light cover of slurry as well after

Robson99

Mooooo wrote: »

When lads mean cut strong paddocks they don't mean to leave it bulk up they mean to cut it straight away, may only be a few bales to the acre. When it's cut like that I guarantee it'll grow back faster than topping it after cows leave half it behind and you will have better grass in the next round, if there was a bit of rain coming you could throw out a light cover of slurry as well after

But the difference between dairy men taking paddocks out and suckler men is that the dairy boys will prob have 80-100 units of nitrogren out on grazing ground while suckler men will prob have only 40-50. Most suckler paddocks wouldn't have 2 bales to the acre

TITANIUM.

The only lad's I can see that have this problem at the moment are lad's that are under stocked at the moment due to mart v factory prices.
If lad's have to much grass now what will they be like when the silage ground comes back into the rotation?

kk.man

TITANIUM. wrote: »

The only lad's I can see that have this problem at the moment are lad's that are under stocked at the moment due to mart v factory prices.
If lad's have to much grass now what will they be like when the silage ground comes back into the rotation?

When that happens grass growth will be slower

Mooooo

Robson99 wrote: »

But the difference between dairy men taking paddocks out and suckler men is that the dairy boys will prob have 80-100 units of nitrogren out on grazing ground while suckler men will prob have only 40-50. Most suckler paddocks wouldn't have 2 bales to the acre

Better 2 bales to the acre than it being left behind and subsequent grass bring poor, of the slurry is there it would be enough to give a kick on. The bales can always. Be sold if not needed even tho it's likely they will be better quality so may be worth keeping for yearlings

_Brian

It depends on the amount of ground too. For smaller farms 2 bales to the acre would be expensive to get contractor out to cut, bale n wrap them.
Be good if a fella had a way of doing it but not many outfits would want to come to make 12 or 15 bales over 10 acres of ground.

Mooooo

_Brian wrote: »

It depends on the amount of ground too. For smaller farms 2 bales to the acre would be expensive to get contractor out to cut, bale n wrap them.
Be good if a fella had a way of doing it but not many outfits would want to come to make 12 or 15 bales over 10 acres of ground.

Point taken, we pit main cut but only bale strong paddocks, our baler has come and done as low as 3 acres for us, but we are on his catchment area. What we do sometimes don't know how it is applicable to anyone else but would give the neighbour a shout and see has he anything to do and we'd help each other out drawing in then and baler would have more work in the one spot.

_Brian

Mooooo wrote: »

Point taken, we pit main cut but only bale strong paddocks, our baler has come and done as low as 3 acres for us, but we are on his catchment area. What we do sometimes don't know how it is applicable to anyone else but would give the neighbour a shout and see has he anything to do and we'd help each other out drawing in then and baler would have more work in the one spot.

That's it, guy that does ours comes about 8 miles and he'd be unimpressed if I asked him to come and round up 6 bales over 3 acres.

_Brian

With strong paddocks we half graze them and top them down, like lots of other stuff on small farms it's a compromise, they get to graze the best out and the rest is topped down and then better grass coming round next time.
We've just dry heifers to go at the back end so I don't like making them eat out to the but too often, I need them hopping onto fresh stuff every 5 or so days to keep intake of best grass up.

The part time boy

TITANIUM. wrote: »

The only lad's I can see that have this problem at the moment are lad's that are under stocked at the moment due to mart v factory prices.
If lad's have to much grass now what will they be like when the silage ground comes back into the rotation?

If anything I a bit over stocked . The sillage ground gone for meadowoing is gone for 2 cuts so I won't see it again till sep.

I understand about not bulking it up to cut but cut now . But that what I did a few years ago and I not joking when I said it took a year to recover . I know it makes no sense and it was bit weird.

That's why I slow to cut it .

The way forecast is I might not have much trouble if grass is slow to regrow

TITANIUM.

kk.man wrote: »

When that happens grass growth will be slower

No it won't. Not unless you don't bring it back in until September.
Allot of first cuts will my own included will be finished this month. And I won't be closing all silage ground for a second cut. So ill be grazing after grass the end of June.
Plenty in the same boat as me.
Don't tell me that there's more growth there now then we'll have in June/July