If you want high rise buildings in Dublin, there is something you can do right now.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

It's very simple. You get what you settle for in life. So you can either lead, follow, or get out of the way.

The only thing that has ever worked in a democracy is to apply pressure directly to the agents of influence that control policy. In this case, the councillors of DCC. The idea is to politely, but firmly, let these people know that you are not happy with their policies. Remember, do NOT abuse anyone or be nasty. Consider bombarding facebook and social media with this too.

So if you actually want to let your feelings be known, copy and paste these email addresses into the to: field at the top of your email:

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Even if you're not living in Dublin, it's in your best interests to apply pressure anyway. This affects your friends, family, and very likely any children you might have.

Remember: These people work for us. It's time they were reminded of this fact. You'll be surprised at how quickly they will fold when scrutiny is put on them.

So those are your options. Do nothing, or do something.

Thank you, and have a nice weekend.

Jack the Stripper

And the weather Michael?

RockSalto

What's going on here?

ScumLord

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Remember, do NOT abuse anyone or be nasty.

Well what's the point then? :rolleyes:

seachto7

What the hell is this about?

SmartinMartin

Thanks, very informative. I just used that list to tell them I DON'T want higher buildings in the city.

Graham

ScumLord wrote: »

Well what's the point then? :rolleyes:

Least effort 'protesting', serves little purpose other than convince the ultimate lazy protesters they've made a contribution.

Pretty pointless if you ask me, likely to result in a quick email filter by DCC.

My name is URL

This affects your friends, family, and very likely any children you might have.

Bang of facebook off this

me_irl

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Thank you, and have a nice weekend.

Don't you feckin' tell me what to do ya pup!

KyussBeeshop

Out of all the potential solutions to the housing/rental crisis, this is about the only one that gets majorly lobbied - and that's primarily because it stands to maximize the financial benefit, for some of the cunts who are holding our property/rental market in a shit state.

So, they want a big public lobbying/astroturfing campaign, to provide policy changes in their interests - in the trojan-horse guise of 'helping' with the housing/rental crisis.


They can go fuck themselves. Nothing short of a huge blitz of social housing construction, massive penalizing taxes on idle land (among many other measures that property industry lobbyists are dead-set against), and wide ranging investigations into anti-competitive practices and cartel/monopoly practices in the construction industry - nothing short of all that is going to even begin to make a difference.

Problem is, there's already so much influence from industry over government, that what is needed to fix all this is vanishingly unlikely.

stereo_steve

Great initiative. I emailed!

Graham

KyussBeeshop wrote: »

Out of all the potential solutions to the housing/rental crisis, this is about the only one that gets majorly lobbied - and that's primarily because it stands to maximize the financial benefit, for some of the cunts who are holding our property/rental market in a shit state.

So, they want a big public lobbying/astroturfing campaign, to provide policy changes in their interests - in the trojan-horse guise of 'helping' with the housing/rental crisis.

What a bizarre argument. Higher rise buildings shouldn't be allowed out of spite in case a property developer might make a profit :rolleyes:

Jawgap

Thanks, I'll be emailing to say I definitely don't want high rises in the city.....

.....to be honest high rises are more of a Shelbyville idea

SEPT 23 1989

Have you not seen that documentary The Towering Inferno?

Jawgap

Graham wrote: »

What a bizarre argument. Higher rise buildings shouldn't be allowed out of spite in case a property developer might make a profit :rolleyes:

It's how they might make the profit - if we could be certain they'd build high quality, architecturally significant buildings well serviced and specc'ed then, yeah let them bash away......

.....the concern is they'd build single aspect shoe boxes

Graham

Jawgap wrote: »

It's how they might make the profit - if we could be certain they'd build high quality, architecturally significant buildings well serviced and specc'ed then, yeah let them bash away......

.....the concern is they'd build single aspect shoe boxes

While I'd agree with the high quality architecturally significant high-rise developments point. It's also worth considering there's a large, fairly transient renter-population that don't particularly want to pay a premium for a dual aspect with massive floor space. They want to be close to work, transport hubs, and the city centre.

Either way, that's a planning/building-control issue. Allowing high-rise does not automatically equate with towering slums.

Jawgap

Graham wrote: »

While I'd agree with the high quality architecturally significant high-rise developments point. It's also worth considering there's a large, fairly transient renter-population that don't particularly want to pay a premium for a dual aspect with massive floor space. They want to be close to work, transport hubs, and the city centre.

Tough - why should we deface our city then to suit such a transient population?

Maybe if we built high quality living space in the city centre, people would live there and see it as a long term proposition.

Graham

Jawgap wrote: »

Tough - why should we deface our city then to suit such a transient population?

I made no such suggestion. High rise can be architecturally significant without dual aspect.

Allah snackbar

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Have you not seen that documentary The Towering Inferno?

Or 9/11, them towers wouldn't have been hit if they were only 4 stories

Jawgap

Graham wrote: »

I made no such suggestion. High rise can be architecturally significant without dual aspect.

I'm sure it can, but it's not very 'liveable' when it is single aspect, but it is very profitable as you can usually halve the number of service cores required, and maximise the number of units.

Graham

Jawgap wrote: »

I'm sure it can, but it's not very 'liveable' when it is single aspect, but it is very profitable as you can usually halve the number of service cores required, and maximise the number of units.

It also reduces costs per unit significantly something that would likely be of particular interest to the demographic I mentioned above who don't necessarily want the additional costs of dual aspect imposed on them.

A good mix of development types is the obvious solution to address both sectors of the market.

ScumLord

Jawgap wrote: »

Tough - why should we deface our city then to suit such a transient population?

You have a point about the quality of the buildings, I don't think that would be as much of an issue with the first high rises, I think they'd be of a high standard and that they'd be able to attract high income residents. But they could certainly throw up a building full of shoe boxes. It would be up to the council to bring in some building regulations to prevent that.

But a city that wants to be a high density city needs sky rises, modern public transport won't work in the city unless it ups its density, it just won't, new Luas lines won't make sense, higher capacity roads won't make sense, underground won't make sense and bottom line is Dublin needs to stop sprawling, it's going to become an utter pain to get anything done if everything continues to spread out.

High rises can look good too, I don't think there's any substance in the eye sore argument. If you think high rises are an eyesore move to a smaller less important city. Dublin as Irelands business centre has an obligation to the entire country to be efficient

KERSPLAT!

This is a discussion site, not somewhere to post petitions or whatever it is you're at. Posting people's email addresses isn't a great idea either, whether they're public or otherwise.

Feel free to open a thread on high rise in Dublin, it would make for interesting discussion.