Is it time to cancel sky.

tinkerbell2310

Ive been with Sky for over 17 years. But think today was final straw.
The European rugby is shown on bt sports today. We already lost the champions league some fa cup and league cup to sky so today is the final straw for me.
I'm gonna cancel. Anyone have an pro's to keeping it.
A few months ago they put the price up on all packages but it just not worth the 100 odd euros a month

Tilikum

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

Ive been with Sky for over 17 years. But think today was final straw.
The European rugby is shown on bt sports today. We already lost the champions league some fa cup and league cup to sky so today is the final straw for me.
I'm gonna cancel. Anyone have an pro's to keeping it.
A few months ago they put the price up on all packages but it just not worth the 100 odd euros a month

Firstly if you ring up and say your cancelling as your out of contract, they'll give you a better deal straight away.

Secondly, anyone paying for sky tv/virgin tv nowadays is mind boggling imo.

tinkerbell2310

Tilikum wrote: »

Firstly if you ring up and say your cancelling as your out of contract, they'll give you a better deal straight away.

Secondly, anyone paying for sky tv/virgin tv nowadays is mind boggling imo.

But it's still s***e.. the champions league is huge in our home and so is the rugby.. it's just frustrating that we have to pay like 230 a year for bt sports.... not that we did.. I used to have setanta..

tinkerbell2310

Mr.S wrote: »

You can still get good deals with Sky, ie i'm on a everything package (non movies/sports obviously) for €55 pm, no other provider can match that really + the benefits of Sky.

Once you start adding movies and sports, sky is a fortune but apart from that, they're grand.

That's grand if I don't want sports but the whole house does. For instance today sky sports 1 and 2 were showing same match the scotttish semi final.. sky 1 sky sports news and now sky sports 1 are showing soccer Saturday... wtf like...a joke

adox

I got rid of Sky about a year ago after being with them for a similar amount of time.

Best move I ever made. The free to air channels are plentiful and no bill every month.

Sky is a complete rip off in this day and age.

XsApollo

You get BT for free if you switch to eir for broadband.
Ring sky and cancel you will get a better deal.
Your bill would probably be cut in half going that way.

bill66

I have no idea why anyone would subscribe to Sky or most pay tv services anymore. According to one survey

"Figures from Freesat show that of the 1,000 most-watched shows by Sky subscribers last year, 99% were available on free-to-air television.

In fact, of the 78 shows that made up the top 1,000 most-watched broadcasts, the highest ranked Sky-only programme came in at 368."

A Freesat box can do most things a sky box can; series link, watch one record another etc. If there is something you really like on sky it will almost certainly be available elsewhere for less.

tinkerbell2310

I just don't know how Sky get away with losing the champions league and then upping their prices??? It doesn't make sense.

Mr E

Dumped Sky 2 years ago for Saorview and haven't looked back. Over a thousand Euro put to better use.

SickBoy

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

I just don't know how Sky get away with losing the champions league and then upping their prices??? It doesn't make sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14

Dirty Dingus McGee

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

Ive been with Sky for over 17 years. But think today was final straw.
The European rugby is shown on bt sports today. We already lost the champions league some fa cup and league cup to sky so today is the final straw for me.
I'm gonna cancel. Anyone have an pro's to keeping it.
A few months ago they put the price up on all packages but it just not worth the 100 odd euros a month

You can get the BT sports package with Sky which has the European rugby and European soccer.

average_runner

Mr.S wrote: »

You can still get good deals with Sky, ie i'm on a everything package (non movies/sports obviously) for €55 pm, no other provider can match that really + the benefits of Sky.

Once you start adding movies and sports, sky is a fortune but apart from that, they're grand.

OP, in your case, Sky is probably to expensive / not worth it because you can't get what you want. The base package is cheap, but fairly pointless if you want to watch sports.

40 euro for me with channels, tv upstairs, broadband and free calls with upc. Your getting robbed.

lertsnim

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

Ive been with Sky for over 17 years. But think today was final straw.
The European rugby is shown on bt sports today. We already lost the champions league some fa cup and league cup to sky so today is the final straw for me.
I'm gonna cancel. Anyone have an pro's to keeping it.
A few months ago they put the price up on all packages but it just not worth the 100 odd euros a month

The prices are only high because people continue to pay for it. I often hear people complain about it while continuing to pay.

silverharp

I cancelled my virgin tv package recently, because I get cable internet from them I still get their basic selection of channels. Less channel hopping which is a plus and didnt have to bother with saor view

Zaph

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

I just don't know how Sky get away with losing the champions league and then upping their prices??? It doesn't make sense.

They have to pay for the Premier League rights somehow, especially considering the ludicrous amounts of money involved in the new deal.

Agent Coulson

I will be giving Sky my 31 days notice on Monday I got a great deal last year basically the basic package/sports & HD for €50 a month for a year and all I really wanted it for was the sports package.

Now with Now TV starting here in Ireland soon that's what I will be going for when it comes to the sports package.

I'd guess the sports pass will be close to €40 a month but I'd ok with that getting it when I want and no 31 days notice crap.

90% of anything else I watch I stream from Netflix to Hulu and most everything else is on free to air channels.

If I could pay for a single service that suited me I genuinely would pay but until that day I won't. They need to stop trying to sell you bundles of channels you will never watch and sell you bundles of TV shows you will watch. It will never happen as that would take every studio and tv channel to work together.

I don't know about other but outside of news and current affairs stuff we watch very little live TV here. Certainly not enough to be paying sky 50 odd a month and I think they put the average adult at watching 3-4 hours a day ? Madness and heaven forbid you want multiroom and additional boxes.

If a company came along and tried to sell me a 100% legal and legit Kodi/Android box watch whatever you like whenever you like for the monthly subscription , an example is spotify bar a few holdouts most are on there so if someone can create the video equivalent and unite all content providers ????? /will never happen

Fr Tod Umptious

Surely the OP should be asking "Is it time to cancel Sky Sports" rather than just Sky, because his/her problem is with Sky Sports not showing a game.

We have the Sky variety package here for ?40 odd a month, we have the variety package because we have kids and there are lots of kids channels on it.

We have hummed and hawed for a few years now about getting rid of Sky and have come to the conclusion that there is nothing like it out there for functionality and ease of use.

Whatever about the content the functionality is very good, especially the on demand stuff.

You don't get that with combo boxes etc.

Plus every Christmas we get the sports and movies for half price and get rid of them after the month.

sioda

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Surely the OP should be asking "Is it time to cancel Sky Sports" rather than just Sky, because his/her problem is with Sky Sports not showing a game.

We have the Sky variety package here for ?40 odd a month, we have the variety package because we have kids and there are lots of kids channels on it.

We have hummed and hawed for a few years now about getting rid of Sky and have come to the conclusion that there is nothing like it out there for functionality and ease of use.

Whatever about the content the functionality is very good, especially the on demand stuff.

You don't get that with combo boxes etc.

Plus every Christmas we get the sports and movies for half price and get rid of them after the month.

This is it in a nutshell for me. Yes I could use a kodi box but sky go/q and the remote record I find invaluable.

The new q boxes are excellent and once I can dump Eir and switch to sky fibre with the WiFi boosting I'll be happy out.

bill66

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Surely the OP should be asking "Is it time to cancel Sky Sports" rather than just Sky, because his/her problem is with Sky Sports not showing a game.

We have the Sky variety package here for ?40 odd a month, we have the variety package because we have kids and there are lots of kids channels on it.

We have hummed and hawed for a few years now about getting rid of Sky and have come to the conclusion that there is nothing like it out there for functionality and ease of use.

Whatever about the content the functionality is very good, especially the on demand stuff.

You don't get that with combo boxes etc.

Plus every Christmas we get the sports and movies for half price and get rid of them after the month.

I don't wish to labour my point, but, variety pack for €40 a month is not worth the money, you can get it all for less elsewhere. There is a reason why there is a fall in Sky subscribers(11.6% of all customers cancelled last year).

Full_Circle_81

Agent Coulson wrote: »

90% of anything else I watch I stream from Netflix to Hulu and most everything else is on free to air channels.

Is there a normal way to subscribe to Hulu here or do you have to use a VPN?

Really interesting in seeing what Skys Now TV offer here is going to be like. I've been thinking about cutting the cord for ages.

Agent Coulson

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

Is there a normal way to subscribe to Hulu here or do you have to use a VPN?.

I've had a Hulu account from my time living in the States.

Yamanoto

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

we have the variety package because we have kids and there are lots of kids channels on it.

It's far from a necessity though & kids tend to adapt to change quickly & easily.

There's plenty of decent kids TV available free to air too & what you save on a Sky sub can be put toward a tonne of other things that are ultimately of more benefit to the family.

Ditching Sky's been great for me, just regret I hadn't done it sooner.

You can get sky for 40-50% off if you cancel and wait for them to come after you. Same with Eirsport, just cancel every few months then sign up for the next 2-3 months for a discounted rate.

Right now i pay sky 40/month with everything except movies, and 16/month for all the Eirsport channels. I have access to other means of accessing the sports, but that stuff is, you know, not legal.

IrishHomer

Eir Sports can be got for E100 per year! They ran a promotion on Facebook few months back. You just call them mention that promotion they will say no it's over. You then say ok bye and then they will still offer it provided you pay a lump sum for the one year

XsApollo

Can the same picture quality and on demand services be got on free to air?
I'm not Saying you can't, genuinely wondering can you? I've never used one

I am watching Liverpool v palace now in ultra hd and it is stunning.
Amazing sound out through the reciever and surround speakers also.
Will be watching the MotoGP later with the same again, amazing picture and sound quality.

Watched a nice 4K movie last night with stunning picture and sound again.

I think sky with the 4K q box is quality and worth the premium for everything in 1 box if you are into 4K and like having a good quality picture.
Saying it's crazy to pay for sky might be true if you arnt bothered by the above.
But if you like having the above I think it worth it.

bill66

XsApollo wrote: »

Can the same picture quality and on demand services be got on free to air?
I'm not Saying you can't, genuinely wondering can you? I've never used one

I am watching Liverpool v palace now in ultra hd and it is stunning.
Amazing sound out through the reciever and surround speakers also.
Will be watching the MotoGP later with the same again, amazing picture and sound quality.

Watched a nice 4K movie last night with stunning picture and sound again.

I think sky with the 4K q box is quality and worth the premium for everything in 1 box if you are into 4K and like having a good quality picture.
Saying it's crazy to pay for sky might be true if you arnt bothered by the above.
But if you like having the above I think it worth it.

With a freesat box yes, same HD fta channels, bbc, itv, ch5 on demand. not the sports though. But if the extra quality is worth the €100 a month and money is not an issue then it could be the right choice for you. For me it's not worth the money.

beauf

Need a combo for rte saorview.

XsApollo

bill66 wrote: »

With a freesat box yes, same HD fta channels, bbc, itv, ch5 on demand. not the sports though. But if the extra quality is worth the €100 a month and money is not an issue then it could be the right choice for you. For me it's not worth the money.

I wouldn't say money is not an issue, it's what I choose to spend it on.
But people saying people are fools for paying and being ripped off because you can get this and that to do the same thing for free isn't true, if the the free thing doesn't have the channels you want to watch.

bill66

XsApollo wrote: »

I wouldn't say money is not an issue, it's what I choose to spend it on.
But people saying people are fools for paying and being ripped off because you can get this and that to do the same thing for free isn't true, if the the free thing doesn't have the channels you want to watch.

As I said, maybe it is for you, but not for me. People are free to spend their money on whatever they want, but I think its fair to point out the lack of value from some pay tv packages. A lot of people don't realise most of what they watch on Sky is available for free to air.
As someone who subscribed to sky as soon as they got the football in the early nineties, I appreciate its convenience. For many years there was no alternative. But now, with ever faster broadband speeds there are many alternatives in addition to freesat.
Everything available on sky is available elsewhere.

bill66

bill66 wrote: »

As I said, maybe it is for you, but not for me. People are free to spend their money on whatever they want, but I think its fair to point out the lack of value from some pay tv packages. A lot of people don't realise most of what they watch on Sky is available for free to air.
As someone who subscribed to sky as soon as they got the football in the early nineties, I appreciate its convenience. For many years there was no alternative. But now, with ever faster broadband speeds there are many alternatives in addition to freesat.
Everything available on sky is available elsewhere.

Not legally.

corks finest

Ditched the robbers yrs ago,,,,,Kodi is ok,if I'm allowed say that here?Plus ntv.mx is reliable,and cheap

corks finest

Ditched the robbers yrs ago,,,,,Kodi is ok,if I'm allowed say that here?Plus ntv.mx is reliable,and cheap

corks finest

Ditched the robbers yrs ago,,,,,Kodi is ok,if I'm allowed say that here?Plus ntv.mx is reliable,and cheap

Agent Coulson

I canceled today it took 29 minutes and being passed to 4 different people before they finally accepted my cancellation.

I've been paying €50 a month for Basic/Sports/Boxsets-HD due to jump to €86.75c if I didn't cancel.

First offer was €69 a month going forward I said no.

Second offer was €75 a month with Broadband I said no as then I would lose the BT channels.

Third offer was then €49 but I'd lose Boxsets-HD again I said no.

Last and final offer was €45.17c again I wouldn't have Boxsets-HD again I said no.




I also told them paying for HD in 2017 is ridiculous and putting it with Boxsets is just another con in getting people to pay for it.


I told them straight up I was cutting the cord and even with the Irish tax on Sky Now TV it will do for me if I want Sky Sports at anytime without the hassle of going through the rigmarole of these 30 minute hard sell cancellation calls and giving 31 days notice.

corks finest

bill66 wrote: »

I have no idea why anyone would subscribe to Sky or most pay tv services anymore. According to one survey

"Figures from Freesat show that of the 1,000 most-watched shows by Sky subscribers last year, 99% were available on free-to-air television.

In fact, of the 78 shows that made up the top 1,000 most-watched broadcasts, the highest ranked Sky-only programme came in at 368."

A Freesat box can do most things a sky box can; series link, watch one record another etc. If there is something you really like on sky it will almost certainly be available elsewhere for less.

Yep,have a humax box,plus android box, what more do you need

Bif

corks finest wrote: »

Yep,have a humax box,plus android box, what more do you need

Good broadband?

NIMAN

I ditched Sky TV approx 6 yrs ago now, mostly because I didn't watch much TV and I didn't think I was getting value for money.

I went the Freesat recorder route, along with Saorview of course.

I didn't miss much, as most of my viewing would have been RTE and FTA British channels. I had stopped watching most of the football I used to watch, and caught most important CL games I wanted to see on either RTE or TV3.

I then got a cheap Dreambox for all the subscription channels, but still rarely watched any of them. Just the odd 'big' football match.

Couldn't imagine going back to spend 600-1000 annually for a TV service. Madness.

Wanderer78

NIMAN wrote:

Couldn't imagine going back to spend 600-1000 annually for a TV service. Madness.

You d be mad spending that kinna money to watch a few games, 'alternatives' all the way!

jimmycrackcorm

Got rid of sky also. Now have a box with Saorview, FreeSat, ipTv and Kodi / Android. So basically I have everything.

What killed sky for me was paying for sports and only having some of the PL matches.

shane1981

I'm cancelling today. Showing one of two rugby semis at the weekend was the last straw. Plus the fact that Ive had a HD TV for 15 years and paid extra for a 'HD' box yet I have to pay even more for a Boxset package to activate the HD sports channels What a joke.

dublinman1990

If you are not into watching Sky for any of the Pay channels including sports or movies; why would you have it right now? Of course; if their are people who are happy with Sky with other issues around them. By all means; stick with Sky if you are happy with it.

With Sky or Freesat both available in Ireland; having Freesat with Saorview, is cheap for the vast majority of people living here. We are also very lucky to have the choice to go to many TV services available to us at any one time. It is not like years ago when you had barely feck all to watch on TV.

dbagman

"Is it time to cancel sky"

Nope. That time has long since passed my friend. Since bt came on the scene the amount of premiership games they've lost is a joke. You'd think their prices should be coming down if anything.

dbagman

dbagman wrote: »

"Is it time to cancel sky"

Nope. That time has long since passed my friend. Since bt came on the scene the amount of premiership games they've lost is a joke. You'd think their prices should be coming down if anything.

Not entirely true. Sky has the lion's share of the Premier League matches, and this season they also started showing the 3pm kick-off on a Saturday, which used to be part of the BT/Setanta/Eir package.

The problem is that the few games that BT do have are often big matches featuring the typical teams Irish supporters latch on to.

CastorTroy

I think I'll cancel as well. They should be trying to have a competitve price. When you can get Netflix for €10 a month which includes weekly series, box sets and HD, as well as original series, why don't SKy give HD and/or box sets for free at least?
And they boast about Atlantic and their great relationship with HBO showing within a week of air time, yet the final season of The Leftovers has started in the States and Sky haven't announced a start date yet. Which means by the time they do air it, people would have to avoid spoilers for weeks/months until they see the series finale.

bill66

Basil3 wrote: »

Not legally.

Really, can you show me a case where anyone has been convicted of the offence of streaming content in Ireland.

bill66

bill66 wrote: »

Really, can you show me a case where anyone has been convicted of the offence of streaming content in Ireland.

Ok, streaming content illegally is legal?

bill66

Basil3 wrote: »

Ok, streaming content illegally is legal?

The world is not just black and white. Streaming is a grey area when it comes to the law. Those providing the service are usually breaking the law, as they store the whole file and then share it with others, often for profit. The individual streaming at home never stores the whole file and therefore, it has been argued, never copies the whole episode or movie. Therefore, they can't have broken copyright law.

There is no law that says it is illegal to stream content and no one has ever been charged or prosecuted for doing so.

bill66

bill66 wrote: »

The world is not just black and white. Streaming is a grey area when it comes to the law. Those providing the service are usually breaking the law, as they store the whole file and then share it with others, often for profit. The individual streaming at home never stores the whole file and therefore, it has been argued, never copies the whole episode or movie. Therefore, they can't have broken copyright law.

There is no law that says it is illegal to stream content and no one has ever been charged or prosecuted for doing so.

I'm very familiar with the law. Of course, there's no law against streaming content. If there was then everyone using netflix would be breaking the law. It is illegal to stream copyrighted material, this is not a grey area. It's black and white.

An example is if you stream a premier league match through an alternative service and the premier league logo appears on the screen, this is in breach of premier league copyright. They can't copyright the live event, but they can with their logos and graphics.

Why are all these kodi streaming services getting blocked by isps, and why are fully loaded boxes now no longer being sold through Amazon and eBay? Surely they know that illegal streaming is legal?

Anyway, i know you're just messing.

bill66

Basil3 wrote: »

I'm very familiar with the law. Of course, there's no law against streaming content. If there was then everyone using netflix would be breaking the law. It is illegal to stream copyrighted material, this is not a grey area. It's black and white.

An example is if you stream a premier league match through an alternative service and the premier league logo appears on the screen, this is in breach of premier league copyright. They can't copyright the live event, but they can with their logos and graphics.

Why are all these kodi streaming services getting blocked by isps, and why are fully loaded boxes now no longer being sold through Amazon and eBay? Surely they know that illegal streaming is legal?

Anyway, i know you're just messing.

If you can't see the difference between the provider and the user then I will not waste any more time trying to explain it. Come back when you can give an example of anyone who has been charged or prosecuted for streaming copyrighted content. Or quote the law that says it is illegal.
The law is set by precedent and as it stands, despite millions of what you think are illegal actions occurring every week, not one case has been taken against the end user.

The Rape of Lucretia

bill66 wrote: »

The world is not just black and white. Streaming is a grey area when it comes to the law.

Possibly. But morally it is black and white.
Streaming pay content without paying is morally reprehensible, is theft, shows a complete disregard for the rule of natural justice and respect for the rights of others, and is a characteristic of those lowest on the scale of human decency who lack all moral rectitude, and are either inately bad people who are shameless exploiters of others, or have been raised removed from the example of principled righteous standards of behaviour.