Car shopping again!

Toyotafanboi

Looking to trade in the Civic. I won't be selling it privately as trying to sell a 10 year old, 1.8 petrol automatic "car" will probably be challenging via donedeal.

What could I expect as a trade in price? 07 1.8 auto, full history, ok spec, test until 11/17 and tax until July. 115k kms on it? 3k-3500?

I don't know what I want at all, but 95% sure it has to be petrol. I have a hugely varying mileage so I could do anything between 500-1000kms per week.

I have a modest enough budget with the Honda, maybe €4k ish. So probably looking at cars priced around 6-7k. Could go a bit more for something really nice.

Somewhat dependable, other than that I'm not too fussy, something interesting is always nice.

Suggestions gentlemen please.

bazz26

Any engine size or tax limitations? Are you looking to go up a few years or would something the same age be ok?

Four Phucs Ache

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-3-series-320i-m-sport-z3d1-2dr-a/14225980

This or the likes maybe ???

Toyotafanboi

In not chasing a reg plate by any means so I wouldn't mind staying in an 07 only going to an 08. It's probably feel wrong to get into an older car.

Seeing as I'm on a road tax threshold I probably wouldn't like to spend more than €800 for a years tax.

Have been lusting after a Mk5 Gti for a while now but I don't know if that's just work taking it's toll on me. I wouldn't be opposed to another Civic. I'd love a CRZ but I reckon they are out of my budget. I've no other necessities or needs in a car as such.

bazz26

Renault Clio 197:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Renault/Clio/3-2.0i/5603677324965097759/

Toyotafanboi

The Clio 197 us a good shout IMO, I had thought that myself. I'd say they'd be reliable, economical and good craic is there much to watch out for with them I wonder?

I had seen this too, it's a private deal so it's mean trying to flog the Civic myself, but still. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/polo-gti/15093303

I have a weird attraction for cars that are too small so both of the above are ideal.

I do like the look of a 320i but I'd say (premium saloon) maintenance would be on a tier above the likes of a hot hatch which wouldn't interest me too much at the mo.

Four Phucs Ache

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-tt-immaculate-new-nct/14927515

More red.

Four Phucs Ache

Attraction to small =

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-twingo-sport-1-6-133bhp/15058406


Perfecto.

Mondo.

GavMan

Four Phucs Ache wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-tt-immaculate-new-nct/14927515

More red.

In my head I would have expected a TT to be asking for more. Love the interior but is that bolster on the Passenger side a bit rough? Would have to be sure the wheel are genuine? Ad says new so I'm guessing they are reps. Why get new wheels when flogging a car? Did they make ****e of the old ones.

Perhaps it was not quite minded like a baby as they say

GavMan

Four Phucs Ache wrote: »

Attraction to small =

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-twingo-sport-1-6-133bhp/15058406


Perfecto.

Mondo.

My god that is spartan..

AMKC

What about this
Yes a silly name for a car but I think it looks good.

http://www.autotrader.ie/browse-used-cars/renault/wind/used-2010-renault-wind-convertibl-armagh-fpa-7533990251968315519

If that is too impractical you could always get one of these beautys

http://www.autotrader.ie/browse-used-cars/renault/laguna/used-2009-renault-laguna-coupe-2-dublin-fpa-4625511891086401066

Cee-Jay-Cee

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Looking to trade in the Civic. I won't be selling it privately as trying to sell a 10 year old, 1.8 petrol automatic "car" will probably be challenging via donedeal.

What could I expect as a trade in price? 07 1.8 auto, full history, ok spec, test until 11/17 and tax until July. 115k kms on it? 3k-3500?

I don't know what I want at all, but 95% sure it has to be petrol. I have a hugely varying mileage so I could do anything between 500-1000kms per week.

I have a modest enough budget with the Honda, maybe €4k ish. So probably looking at cars priced around 6-7k. Could go a bit more for something really nice.

Somewhat dependable, other than that I'm not too fussy, something interesting is always nice.

Suggestions gentlemen please.

Realistically your looking at €2k trade in value for your own car, dealers don't want them and it being auto further limits its potential for a quick sale. Stick it up on DD yourself for €4K and hope for anything over €3. You'll be in a much better position then and can look at cars priced around €8k.

Cee-Jay-Cee

GavMan wrote: »

In my head I would have expected a TT to be asking for more. Love the interior but is that bolster on the Passenger side a bit rough? Would have to be sure the wheel are genuine? Ad says new so I'm guessing they are reps. Why get new wheels when flogging a car? Did they make ****e of the old ones.

Perhaps it was not quite minded like a baby as they say

New wheels make the car much more attractive even if they aren't genuine.

I wouldn't worry about the bolster, it could be because the sellers wife/partner or whoever mainly sat i that seat is a little overweight and put a bit more wear on that seat. I'd be more interested to see the drivers seat.

It's very well priced and a lot of car for the money, I certainly wouldn't discount it because of the seat bolster or the wheels without going to see it first.

noelf

The seller of the Polo GTI also has this for sale pity it's outside your budget €10950 ..

Surely you have a mpg constraint ?

Toyotafanboi

AMKC wrote: »

What about this
Yes a silly name for a car but I think it looks good.

http://www.autotrader.ie/browse-used-cars/renault/wind/used-2010-renault-wind-convertibl-armagh-fpa-7533990251968315519

If that is too impractical you could always get one of these beautys

http://www.autotrader.ie/browse-used-cars/renault/laguna/used-2009-renault-laguna-coupe-2-dublin-fpa-4625511891086401066

The Windy is cool looking but looks like the kind of car that as soon as something breaks it will be €2500 and main dealer only. Had a look at a Laguna coupe last year before I bought the Civic but get a similar impression to the Windy around issues even though the Laguna 3 are fairly ok.

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Realistically your looking at €2k trade in value for your own car, dealers don't want them and it being auto further limits its potential for a quick sale. Stick it up on DD yourself for €4K and hope for anything over €3. You'll be in a much better position then and can look at cars priced around €8k.

If I got north of €2k on a trade in offer I'd take it. I know if I tried to sell it privately I could be sitting on it for months even at the right price and there still may be no interest.

noelf wrote: »

The seller of the Polo GTI also has this for sale pity it's outside your budget €10950 ..

The tax is slightly out of my budget at €2000 p/a too :pac:

Augeo wrote: »

Surely you have a mpg constraint ?

Within reason, anything that will do 30+ motorway would do and to a fair extent I reckon my tax constraint should control the mpg delivery in most examples.

C class
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-mercedes-benz-c180-kompressor-new-nct-amptax/15291211

Toyotafanboi

There may well be something wrong with me, maybe i don't have enough problems in my life, but I quite like the look of this.

I think the colour and wheels look great, interior spec is ok, nice engine if very problematic.

I'm aware the Mk5 is aging at a rate of knots.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-1-4-tsi-gt-170bhp/15328438

bazz26

If it were me I'd rather go for a GTi instead.

Toyotafanboi

Indeed and a full fat GTi would possibly be less problematic too.

Also kind of into this:
http://m.coxmotorcompany.com/viewanad.php?ad_id=1570374&r=

Not an M Sport and not on the cheap tax makes the price on this a bit more palatable. Spec looks good too.

The diesels are about as flakey as the petrol in these though?

selectamatic

That 320d isn't in anyway cheap from what I can see it's set to go on its final major depreciation journey too.

Two other saloons I'd consider would be the Lexus is250 or a k24 accord.

Both are around 200bhp and will do decent mpg if driven sensibly. They're reliable too.

You'd have to go to the UK for a k24 accord though I'd say.
Plenty of is250's here and them being rwd would make them the better choice imo. Nice v6 engine too.

Tax is the downfall of both

Toyotafanboi

I thought it wasn't too badly priced?

There's a lot of things coming to light from looking around and I think the most prevalent thing is that anything nice seems to be trouble.

There are some nice 2.0 petrol accords around 07-08 but I'm kind of keen to buy something European this time. Just to see what it's like :pac:

selectamatic

Mk5 golf gti seems to make the most sense so.

They're supposedly grand reliability wise, parts are cheap and it has the advantage of being a hot hatch but above all they're insurable.

A fella I know just got a dsg one and it's a fine machine. He'd be the one of the biggest fans I know of dc5's and ep3's but insurance companies were laughing at him when it came to getting quotes on them so the gti was his compromise and he's happy out with it.

bazz26

If your going down the BMW E92 route then the 6 cylinder petrols of that vintage would be more reliable than the 4 cylinder diesel or petrol models. Tax and fuel consumption would be higher if your doing the miles but might be mitigated by reliability:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/BMW/3-Series/325I-SE**HUGE/5525873069557950889/

Do you need a decent amount of space?

Would a TT be suitable?


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Audi/TT/2.0-TFSI/8177974409033337236/

Toyotafanboi

Tbh 325i tax is more than I would like to pay. I know it's only €300 p/a more than 2.0 tax but if you keep talking like that, where do you draw a line.

I took a long lunch today and had a look at a 08 Golf GTi and a 07 Clio 197. The Golf was nice but didn't have much of a novelty about it. I much more liked the look of the 197, they are great in the flesh. My biggest concern is from researching them online, apparently everything goes, anything from engines to gearboxes to steering racks and ecu's. In this instnace the Golf is actually the more reliable car.

bazz26

MINI Cooper S? 168bhp and the cheap tax:


http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1665939&r=s.php%3Fm%3D57%26o%3D1260%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

James Bond Junior

There was a cooper in this house a few years ago and it was chronic on fuel, a cooper s would be worse again I'm sure. Nice car but maybe not for anybody doing a bit of mileage.

bazz26

Yeah, probably not practical for long distance driving.

Nice spec on this Golf GTi:


https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-vw-golf-gti-dsg-auto/14890103

Toyotafanboi

Going to bump my own thread.

I have been looking at a lot of cars over the last couple of months, narrowed down to pretty much 3x models being an Audi TT, a Mk5 GTi or an IS250.

Anyway, I've looked at a few of each and one TT really caught my eye a few weeks ago. 2006, one owner, good service history for sale at well established local dealer willing to do a deal with my car.

To make a long story short it was too far out in terms of cost to change. Without getting into specific numbers I had a figure in my head that I though was reasonable but the dealer was still a bit away from that. His main reasoning was my car was a bit light on NCT (fair enough) and he had "a few other people coming to look at the Audi", indeed.

So, a month has passed, I've put a new NCT on my car and I see the Audis add was last updated yesterday and the price dropped by €1k so I'm going to go back tomorrow and see if I can strike a deal this time.

My question being, what should someone look for in a Mk1 TT? This car seems clean, has only 1 previous owner, 120k kms with full service history and it drove faultlessly. Are they prone to any cruel or unusual failures? Do they need any special care? The car in its own right seemed fundamentally quite good but id hate to be buying problems.

colm_mcm

If you'd take 2k as a trade in value why not just sell it for 2k. You'd be eaten alive for it at that plus you'll get a discount on whatever you buy from a dealer. You know 2k trade in is usually 1k for the car plus discount.

CiniO

Is your civic hatchback or saloon?

Duke O Smiley

A 2006 Mk1 TT is a late one. Is it a 180 or 225 bhp model? See that the service history lists Haldex services.

My parents have just gotten a TT in the last month and love it. Can't tell you much about the pitfalls or whatever I'm afraid as their own is and so far has been faultless. They're a lovely car. Back seats are genuinely useless though. Also the steering is heavy on them. Not mad heavy but you'll definitely notice a difference coming from the Civic.

Shefwedfan

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you'd take 2k as a trade in value why not just sell it for 2k. You'd be eaten alive for it at that plus you'll get a discount on whatever you buy from a dealer. You know 2k trade in is usually 1k for the car plus discount.

Everyone says this when selling your car, I know myself and a number of people have tried to sell privately and nothing is moving. Unless you are giving the car away for nothing......

Everyone wants a new car on PCP or something from a garage......or as mentioned if you are giving the car away for half the value......

If I was you I wouldn't even bother wasting your time putting up an ad and just trade in.

acronym Chilli

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Everyone says this when selling your car, I know myself and a number of people have tried to sell privately and nothing is moving. Unless you are giving the car away for nothing......

Everyone wants a new car on PCP or something from a garage......or as mentioned if you are giving the car away for half the value......

If I was you I wouldn't even bother wasting your time putting up an ad and just trade in.

Is it time of year related?

Toyotafanboi

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you'd take 2k as a trade in value why not just sell it for 2k. You'd be eaten alive for it at that plus you'll get a discount on whatever you buy from a dealer. You know 2k trade in is usually 1k for the car plus discount.

Ah Yeah, I understand that just I genuinely feel I wouldn't have the time or patients to sell it privately, particularly because it's auto I feel it would sit there a long time. The dealers offer for it (which I understand is smoke and mirrors) was €3000.

CiniO wrote: »

Is your civic hatchback or saloon?

07 Hatch, 1.8 auto.

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

A 2006 Mk1 TT is a late one. Is it a 180 or 225 bhp model? See that the service history lists Haldex services.

Yeah, it's a late Mk1, well spec'd though as a result I think. It's a 180bhp alright. That was my biggest concern, a full book of Audi stamps but the Haldex box is never ticked. What are the intervals for that?

Duke O Smiley

180 BHP so 5 speed and Quattro was optional. Its definitely Quattro yeah?? Haldex system needs new oil every 20k miles and filter every 40.

Toyotafanboi

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

180 BHP so 5 speed and Quattro was optional. Its definitely Quattro yeah?? Haldex system needs new oil every 20k miles and filter every 40.

Weird, no it had a 6 speed box and definitely Quattro. It's missed a fair few changes if that's the case. May be a run out model or maybe they all have a decent spec, heated leather, Bose, S-Line kit.

Duke O Smiley

Huh, sorry. My understanding has (always) been; 180 bhp = 5 speed and 225 = 6 speed but I'm obviously wrong. Also I thought that maybe it was a FWD but Audi used the exact same service book across the board so the box for Haldex would be printed on the pages.

Weird that it seemingly hasn't been serviced. It isn't expensive.

Toyotafanboi

It's all pie in the sky I suppose anyway, it seems so well maintained that i'd hope that they just overlooked stating it in the book. Going to head up at lunch tomorrow and make another offer and hopefully do a deal.

ba_barabus

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

180 BHP so 5 speed and Quattro was optional. Its definitely Quattro yeah?? Haldex system needs new oil every 20k miles and filter every 40.

5 speed was only fitted to the fwd 180bhp.

colm_mcm

180 Quattro was also 5 speed wasn't it?

Toyotafanboi

Curious now tbh.

I didn't have it in 6th gear but it definitely had a 6 speed gear knob. Similarly if you motorcheck it it says it's a Quattro and it's badged Quattro but I didn't look underneath it.

colm_mcm

If motorcheck says it's Quattro, you're safe enough.

Duke O Smiley

ba_barabus wrote: »

5 speed was only fitted to the fwd 180bhp.

5 speed is definitely 180 bhp Quattro too.