Saorview on this TV?

BarneyMc · 15-04-2017 5:49am #1

Can someone please tell me if I can pick up Saorview on a TV with the following tuners:

DVB-T2 Freeview HD Tuner
DVB-S2 Freesat HD Tuner

I live in a border area and pick up both Freeview and Saorview channels but just want to check with this TV model before purchasing. Thanks!

dubrov · 15-04-2017 6:10am

Yes it will work with both Freeview and Saorview.

It would even work with Freesat if you connected a satellite dish

BarneyMc · 15-04-2017 7:08am

Thank you so much! Yes I have a satellite dish so that should be interesting. It doesn't say anywhere that you can record to the USB - would this be standard now or depend on makes and models?

dubrov · 15-04-2017 1:25pm

You can get the full tech specs for that model here
http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-49UH620V

You can see it does have usb record functionality.
It also has timehsift functionality for pause/rewind of live tv.

It is probably a god a deal on a tv you can get in that price bracket

BarneyMc · 15-04-2017 11:33pm

The lad in the shop said it couldn't record to a USB stick. But as you confirmed it actually does! Very pleased with my purchase. Thanks for all your help!

BarneyMc · 13-05-2017 6:27am

Lately the tv has struggled to show a clear picture for RTE1. I tried my old Samsung and it shows perfectly. I'd imagine this is a good time to try out Saorsat to see if it comes through any better?

The Cush · 13-05-2017 8:22am

BarneyMc wrote: »

Lately the tv has struggled to show a clear picture for RTE1. I tried my old Samsung and it shows perfectly. I'd imagine this is a good time to try out Saorsat to see if it comes through any better?

RTÉ1 and other channels are carried on mux2, how are the others?
How are the channels on mux1?

If the Samsung is working OK and the channels on mux2 are OK then I'd look at the aerial or some other part of the installation such as cabling, connections or amplification.

What is your aerial setup for both Saorview/Freeview, 1 aerial or 2, roof or attic install, aerial pointing at a Saorview transmitter?
How is/are the aerial feeds split to he various TV points, splitter or amplifier?
How many TV points being fed from the aerial(s)?

What are the signal strength/quality readings like as displayed on both TVs? Signal strength reading should be as close to 100% as possible.

BarneyMc · 14-05-2017 3:03pm

Ahhh, wrote up a good reply but it didn't save. OK here goes again!

Thanks so much Cush. I didn't know about Mux1 and 2. It looks like all mux 2 channels are pixelating. But again, this is only happening with the LG - the Samsung picks up all channels perfectly.

Here's some more of the info you asked for:
I have 2 aerials - assume one for Freeview and other for Saorview.
They are installed outside on top of double garage. I am at the bottom of a hill however.
I think there's an amplifier in the garage and then split in the house.
There are about 4 tv points currently connected but there's about 10 tv points in the (new) house.
Not sure how to see the signal strengths but freeview is top notch and mux1 seems good also (no problems).

Thurston? · 14-05-2017 3:39pm

A new house, so the aerials wouldn't pre-date Oct. 2012?

Anyhow, I've attached a pic. of a setup that was common for the local Monaghan transmitter paired with UK channels, with (bottom) a VHF band III aerial for RTE analogue, & UHF band IV for UK TV. This setup wouldn't be much use for Saorview, unless maybe in a strong signal area.

Sam Russell · 14-05-2017 7:38pm

My experience is that Samsung TVs have very good receivers. LG - not so much.

BarneyMc · 14-05-2017 9:06pm

Thurston? wrote: »

A new house, so the aerials wouldn't pre-date Oct. 2012?

Anyhow, I've attached a pic. of a setup that was common for the local Monaghan transmitter paired with UK channels, with (bottom) a VHF band III aerial for RTE analogue, & UHF band IV for UK TV. This setup wouldn't be much use for Saorview, unless maybe in a strong signal area.

The aerials were setup last October. Both look like the top one in your pic. One pointing north-east (assume Freeview), the other south-west (assume Saorview).

BarneyMc · 14-05-2017 9:08pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

My experience is that Samsung TVs have very good receivers. LG - not so much.

This would seem like the most logical conclusion. Pity but I'll survive

Thurston? · 14-05-2017 9:52pm

Is the Saorview aerial pointing into the hill? Not much the aerial installer could do about that I suppose, unless the signal from Clermont Carn to the east can be used. Any nearby phone masts, especially in the direction the aerial is pointing? (Monaghan mux 2 being on channel 59, making it vulnerable to interference if there are mobile signals in the 800 MHz band.)

The few LG TVs I've set up, if the same channels are being received from multiple transmitters (say Monaghan & Cairn Hill for Saorview) they will put the set with the best signal in the prime slots in the programme guide, even when setup with UK as country, so you probably don't have duplicates with a better signal hiding down the list somewhere.

BarneyMc · 17-05-2017 12:41pm

Thurston? wrote: »

The few LG TVs I've set up, if the same channels are being received from multiple transmitters (say Monaghan & Cairn Hill for Saorview) they will put the set with the best signal in the prime slots in the programme guide, even when setup with UK as country, so you probably don't have duplicates with a better signal hiding down the list somewhere.

You're right. The Samsung has (or at least had) duplicates but not with the LG. Am I right in saying connecting to SaorSat would be worth trying? The installer fitted a satellite and is connected so might be worth a try?

Thurston? · 17-05-2017 6:46pm

Saorsat needs a specific installation. You won't get it from a dish that was set up with UK channels only in mind.

BarneyMc · 17-05-2017 10:06pm

Thurston? wrote: »

Saorsat needs a specific installation. You won't get it from a dish that was set up with UK channels only in mind.

So you can't pick up UK and Irish channels from the one dish?

dubrov · 17-05-2017 10:17pm

BarneyMc wrote: »

So you can't pick up UK and Irish channels from the one dish?

The problem is that they are on two different satellites.

I think you can get a single dish with 2 LNBs (one pointing at each satellite).
Another option is a motorised dish which can change which satellite it points at by physically repointing.

BarneyMc · 17-05-2017 11:06pm

dubrov wrote: »

The problem is that they are on two different satellites.

I think you can get a single dish with 2 LNBs (one pointing at each satellite).
Another option is a motorised dish which can change which satellite it points at by physically repointing.

Ah FFS! OK I will have to find out from him which one it's pointing to. At the end of the day I can still get RTE1 on the Samsung and can live with that. Talk about complications!

The Cush · 17-05-2017 11:14pm

BarneyMc wrote: »

Ah FFS! OK I will have to find out from him which one it's pointing to. At the end of the day I can still get RTE1 on the Samsung and can live with that. Talk about complications!

You are almost certainly pointing at 28.2°E which carries the Sky channels and the UK FTA channels, the Irish channels are carried at 9.0°E. No TV3/3e/be3 channels on that satellite.

Saorview, via the aerial, is the best option. Get a professional in to sort out the signal to the LG.

Goreme · 18-05-2017 2:23pm

I have a Samsung 5 Series Smart 49" TV bought in Northern Ireland last November. Its serial number is UE49K5600AKXXU. Does anyone know if this TV will receive Saorview using it's built in tuner? Thanks for any help.

Sam Russell · 18-05-2017 2:42pm

Goreme wrote: »

I have a Samsung 5 Series Smart 49" TV bought in Northern Ireland last November. Its serial number is UE49K5600AKXXU. Does anyone know if this TV will receive Saorview using it's built in tuner? Thanks for any help.

That set is Soarview certified.

Just set the TV to Country=Ireland and re-tune and you will have Saorview. If you go into the setup menu and find the signal strength, you should be able to see the relative strengths of the two muxes. The signal quality is more important than the signal strength.

Any UK stations (if you are within range) will be put into the 800s and be random order.

Goreme · 18-05-2017 2:51pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

That set is Soarview certified.

Just set the TV to Country=Ireland and re-tune and you will have Saorview. If you go into the setup menu and find the signal strength, you should be able to see the relative strengths of the two muxes. The signal quality is more important than the signal strength.

Any UK stations (if you are within range) will be put into the 800s and be random order.

Ah thanks Sam, thanks for that, that's great news. Now to buy an ariel. I already have a satellite receiver and get all the British Freeview channels in HD on the satellite. I live in the countryside between Kells, Athboy and Navan in Meath, so I'll have to buy an outdoors ariel. Does anyone have any recommendations on the type of ariel? I presume I'll just erect the ariel outside (have a look at the neighbours to see what direction is best for reception), drill a hole in the house wall to feed the Ariel cable into the house and connect it into the back of the Samsung TV.

The Cush · 18-05-2017 4:59pm

Goreme wrote: »

I live in the countryside between Kells, Athboy and Navan in Meath, so I'll have to buy an outdoors ariel. Does anyone have any recommendations on the type of ariel? I presume I'll just erect the ariel outside (have a look at the neighbours to see what direction is best for reception), drill a hole in the house wall to feed the Ariel cable into the house and connect it into the back of the Samsung TV.

Use the Saorview coverage checker to find the recommended transmitter for your location - https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage. It'll also give you the direction to point the aerial.

Looking at the map, likely to be Clermont Carn in Louth or Kippure in the Wicklow Mts. Group T wideband aerial will cover reception from both transmitters.

When installing use the TV's signal meter to get the best signal for both frequencies (muxes), RTÉ1 and 2 are carried on separate muxes so you can compare the signal between both.

Thurston? · 18-05-2017 7:37pm

BarneyMc wrote: »

So you can't pick up UK and Irish channels from the one dish?

A suitably sized dish with 2 LNBs would work.

Maybe your aerial isn't as well sited as it could be? I've seen aerials installed on garages, I assume purely 'for the look of the thing', & I wonder if compromises have been made signal-wise, though the installer should have said so if he thought problems might arise.

Goreme · 18-05-2017 10:22pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

That set is Soarview certified.

Just set the TV to Country=Ireland and re-tune and you will have Saorview. If you go into the setup menu and find the signal strength, you should be able to see the relative strengths of the two muxes. The signal quality is more important than the signal strength.

Any UK stations (if you are within range) will be put into the 800s and be random order.

The Cush wrote: »

Use the Saorview coverage checker to find the recommended transmitter for your location - https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage. It'll also give you the direction to point the aerial.

Looking at the map, likely to be Clermont Carn in Louth or Kippure in the Wicklow Mts. Group T wideband aerial will cover reception from both transmitters.

When installing use the TV's signal meter to get the best signal for both frequencies (muxes), RTÉ1 and 2 are carried on separate muxes so you can compare the signal between both.

Thanks for the links and information Cush!

Saorview on this TV?

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