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moved into new house , etiquette on house warming ?

  • 11-04-2017 5:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭


    Hi guys i 've moved into a new house and planning on having a house waking few friends over for drinks out the back garden , living in semi detached , haven't met my neighbours yet but any advice ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Hi guys i 've moved into a new house and planning on having a house waking few friends over for drinks out the back garden , living in semi detached , haven't met my neighbours yet but any advice ?

    Enjoy yourself but be considerate others are around and remember to keep noise down the later it gets.

    Look I'm all for having a laugh and parties are great if its a one off and not every weekend and such you should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Knock on neighbours' doors (either side) and introduce yourself. Tell them you're having friends/ family over on Saturday afternoon/evening, and would be delighted if they(the neighbours) would like to pop in any time after 5:30/6:30/8:00pm to have a drink. Put out cocktail sausages/salads/chilli or whatever to take the boozing session look off it.

    Use whatever tricks you know to ABSOLUTELY remember their names , for when they turn up and introduce them to your friends/family.
    Keep it relaxed-semi-formal, to prevent misunderstandings.

    Give reasonable notice and stress how much you're looking forward to meeting them. If conversation gets strained, ask about local issues/schools/shops/church etc.

    It'll be fine, and if it isn't , well at least you've done your bit.

    edit: oh and by the way, congratulations on getting the new place, wish you many years of happiness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    Call round to the neighbours and introduce yourself. Try and find out do they have small kids, work early in the morning etc and plan to have the party late afternoon/evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭hellyeah


    As above just call round and introduce yourself, say your having a house warming and will be all wrapped up before midnight.
    Any later and your being a nusance and expect you neighbour to respond with a 2am party some weekend and your off to a bad start. Just speaking from experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭heldel00


    And keep in mind that if you do invite any non-Irish neighbours over they will be there at the exact time you tell them. Not a minute earlier, not a minute later. It's an admirable quality that most Irish don't possess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    heldel00 wrote: »
    And keep in mind that if you do invite any non-Irish neighbours over they will be there at the exact time you tell them. Not a minute earlier, not a minute later. It's an admirable quality that most Irish don't possess.

    I think its good been a few minutes late because no matter what as a host your always running late.

    Once off parties as I said are fine. If you feel up to it ask next-door neighbours but try scope out a little 1st.

    Don't want to clash with newbies right away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Make sure that you have at least one wheelie bin that can be set on fire, keep the music pumping until at least 3am and I'm sure they'll make an appearance at some point. I just thought I'd give the Northside perspective.

    Joking aside invite them over, I did when I had my house warming and it's been a real boon to be honest. The one thing I didn't do is go over the road and invite the neighbours opposite. I know you have to draw the line somewhere but since the ones opposite have been very kind on more than one occasion.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hellyeah wrote: »
    As above just call round and introduce yourself, say your having a house warming and will be all wrapped up before midnight.
    Any later and your being a nusance and expect you neighbour to respond with a 2am party some weekend and your off to a bad start. Just speaking from experience.

    Won't be much of a house warming if it's wraps up a 12, cook food to hide that's it's a boozing session etc? Bloody hell people are allowed have a proper party and a bit of a session in their home once they don't take the p*ss.

    I'd have my party and wouldn't be inviting neighbours or telling them etc as I've done plenty of times before.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Won't be much of a house warming if it's wraps up a 12, cook food to hide that's it's a boozing session etc? Bloody hell people are allowed have a proper party and a bit of a session in their home once they don't take the p*ss.

    I'd have my party and wouldn't be inviting neighbours or telling them etc as I've done plenty of times before.

    Exactly.

    To the OP, whether you bought or are renting is irrelevant - have your fun, don't invite the neighbors (unless you know them and want them? I've nothing against my neighbours but I'm not inviting them to a party...as we're not friends) and have a good time with your friends would be my advice.

    Don't take the piss as the poster above me says. That's it!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Hi guys i 've moved into a new house and planning on having a house waking few friends over for drinks out the back garden , living in semi detached , haven't met my neighbours yet but any advice ?

    Do you own or rent the new house?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Won't be much of a house warming if it's wraps up a 12, cook food to hide that's it's a boozing session etc? Bloody hell people are allowed have a proper party and a bit of a session in their home once they don't take the p*ss.

    I'd have my party and wouldn't be inviting neighbours or telling them etc as I've done plenty of times before.

    What does dont take the piss mean?

    Where are your limits on noise, lights, time etc., without having any contact with the neighbors beforehand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Could you try to contain your party inside your house? When my neighbors moved in they had a party where one of their friends screamed "**** the neighbours" at 4am in the back garden after he was asked to shut up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Could you try to contain your party inside your house? When my neighbors moved in they had a party where one of their friends screamed "**** the neighbours" at 4am in the back garden after he was asked to shut up.

    If its a once off let it slide if always then that's a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Could you try to contain your party inside your house? When my neighbors moved in they had a party where one of their friends screamed "**** the neighbours" at 4am in the back garden after he was asked to shut up.

    If its a once off let it slide if always then that's a problem.

    The same friend goes to all their parties. We can hear him clearly because he's such a loud person. I hate him.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    What does dont take the piss mean?

    Where are your limits on noise, lights, time etc., without having any contact with the neighbors beforehand?

    Time to finish is when the last person wants to stop drinking (4 or 5am would be a regular finish time for me), noise up to 11pm no real limits after that try to keep it so it's not overly audible outside the house once it's gets to 1am or so make sure music can't be heard.
    I've had and attended many many house parties and I wouldn't dream of telling the neighbours none of their business, you are entitled to enjoy yourself in your home. If you won't put up with noise every once in a while then don't live in a build up area.

    And yes before you say it I have every intention of living in the country side in the long term (where I'm from) as I hate having to watch how much noise I make because of neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Hi OP,

    Having read some of the later posts, I'd like to make a couple of points about my own.

    When I moved into this house, I was certain it would be my 'forever' home, and that was in 1983. I made an effort to foster friendly relations with the neighbours, because it was an already established area. I was 28, and quite the party animal, but I realised it was politic to go easy on the first outing - my friends are all similar to myself, but respected that I wanted to start off on the right foot and we had a civilised night, whilst maintaining the party mood. It went on till 4 in the morning, but no loud music.

    My neighbours were and still are wonderful people, and we all look out for each other. Other people have come and gone since then. The weren't missed, as some of them were the "its MY house and I'll party whenever the **** I want" type.

    Cheers,
    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Time to finish is when the last person wants to stop drinking (4 or 5am would be a regular finish time for me), noise up to 11pm no real limits after that try to keep it so it's not overly audible outside the house once it's gets to 1am or so make sure music can't be heard.
    I've had and attended many many house parties and I wouldn't dream of telling the neighbours none of their business, you are entitled to enjoy yourself in your home. If you won't put up with noise every once in a while then don't live in a build up area.

    And yes before you say it I have every intention of living in the country side in the long term (where I'm from) as I hate having to watch how much noise I make because of neighbours.

    You say - "you are entitled to enjoy yourself in your home".

    Where does this entitlement come from?

    Is it written down anywhere?

    Also- it is absolutely your neighbors business if your party impacts on them in any way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Jodotman


    Just don't have the music up full blast and you'll be grand.I wouldn't bother even mentioning it to the neighbours. You'll move it into the house anyway when it starts getting cold.
    None of the neighbours Business


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    You say - "you are entitled to enjoy yourself in your home".

    Where does this entitlement come from?

    Is it written down anywhere?

    Also- it is absolutely your neighbors business if your party impacts on them in any way.

    It's your home that gives you the entitlement to have a party if you wish. I'm not saying to put speakers in the back garden and play music at top volume at 3am. You are entitled to have a party and play music at a decent volume u til 11pm after that you need to keep it down a bit but you didn't have to whisper in your own home.

    If a neighbour complained to me about an odd house party I'd be telling them to keep their kids inside and not have them roaring and waking me at 9am on a Saturday morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭Allinall


    It's your home that gives you the entitlement to have a party if you wish. I'm not saying to put speakers in the back garden and play music at top volume at 3am. You are entitled to have a party and play music at a decent volume u til 11pm after that you need to keep it down a bit but you didn't have to whisper in your own home.

    If a neighbour complained to me about an odd house party I'd be telling them to keep their kids inside and not have them roaring and waking me at 9am on a Saturday morning.

    Why would you make up a story about your neighbors kids waking you on a Saturday morning?

    Also, where did you get 11 pm from as a time to stop loud music?

    Actually, what is a "decent" volume?

    Seems to me you're just making up your own rules without any basis or consideration for others.

    Selfish and probably breaking laws.


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    Why would you make up a story about your neighbors kids waking you on a Saturday morning?

    Also, where did you get 11 pm from as a time to stop loud music?

    Actually, what is a "decent" volume?

    Seems to me you're just making up your own rules without any basis or consideration for others.

    Selfish and probably breaking laws.

    I'm making nothing up, I've been woken by kids playing and shouting many more times than I've held loud house parties.

    11pm comes from the fact that after 11pm is considered "quiet hours". Decent volume means fairly loud to create a good atmosphere, it would be audible outside and next door but only up to around 11pm.

    As for consideration for others, tough luck. An occasional house party is perfectly acceptable, it's your home and you are entitled to enjoy it within a certain amount of reason. Within reason does not mean total silence and not having parties though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I'm making nothing up, I've been woken by kids playing and shouting many more times than I've held loud house parties.

    11pm comes from the fact that after 11pm is considered "quiet hours". Decent volume means fairly loud to create a good atmosphere, it would be audible outside and next door but only up to around 11pm.

    As for consideration for others, tough luck. An occasional house party is perfectly acceptable, it's your home and you are entitled to enjoy it within a certain amount of reason. Within reason does not mean total silence and not having parties though.

    So if you had a party tomorrow night, and your neighbor complained about the noise, you would retort by complaining about some other random neighbour that had at some point in the past woken you on s Saturday morning?

    Again, where does the 11 pm come from?

    Why not 10.30, or 11.30?

    Do you make the rules or decide what's acceptable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Allinall wrote: »
    So if you had a party tomorrow night, and your neighbor complained about the noise, you would retort by complaining about some other random neighbour that had at some point in the past woken you on s Saturday morning?

    Again, where does the 11 pm come from?

    Why not 10.30, or 11.30?

    Do you make the rules or decide what's acceptable?

    He lives in the country. His neighbour is either half a mile away, or else it's his relations either side.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    So if you had a party tomorrow night, and your neighbor complained about the noise, you would retort by complaining about some other random neighbour that had at some point in the past woken you on s Saturday morning?

    Again, where does the 11 pm come from?

    Why not 10.30, or 11.30?

    Do you make the rules or decide what's acceptable?

    There isn't any specific law as far as I'm aware in Ireland but the general accepted rule is that 11pm to 7am is the time frame where noise should be minimised. It likely comes from the UK where the law specifically states 11pm to 7am as being quiet hours.
    He lives in the country. His neighbour is either half a mile away, or else it's his relations either side.

    I don't, I'm from the county and will return but at the moment I live most of the time in an urban area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    A reminder that this post is about the OP. Let's not derail it with side tracking.

    Mod


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Allinall wrote: »
    So if you had a party tomorrow night, and your neighbor complained about the noise, you would retort by complaining about some other random neighbour that had at some point in the past woken you on s Saturday morning?

    Again, where does the 11 pm come from?

    Why not 10.30, or 11.30?

    Do you make the rules or decide what's acceptable?

    I live in a small development (32 units) and we define antisocial hours as between 10PM and 7AM. We also specify no washing machines or outdoor activities which impinge on neighbours after 9PM. You'd be surprised at how little cop on some people have. If there are small children in the neighbourhood- they probably go to bed reasonably early. Its not fair to show no concern for how you might impact on your neighbours. Also- if you've bought- you are probably impacting on people who are likely to be your neighbours long term- throwing a mad party is a sure fire way to annoy the living hell out of most of your neighbours.

    There is nothing wrong with having a house warming party- however, keep it civil and show due concern towards your neighbours- its not rocket science.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    I live in a small development (32 units) and we define antisocial hours as between 10PM and 7AM. We also specify no washing machines or outdoor activities which impinge on neighbours after 9PM. You'd be surprised at how little cop on some people have. If there are small children in the neighbourhood- they probably go to bed reasonably early. Its not fair to show no concern for how you might impact on your neighbours. Also- if you've bought- you are probably impacting on people who are likely to be your neighbours long term- throwing a mad party is a sure fire way to annoy the living hell out of most of your neighbours.

    There is nothing wrong with having a house warming party- however, keep it civil and show due concern towards your neighbours- its not rocket science.

    Washing machines? Really? Where the hell did that come from?

    I would, as suggested by others OP, invite the neighbours, they probably won't come anyway, it's simply good manners.

    And just take it handy, a 1st impression can last for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    I think unless you plan on partying hard until the late hours there is no need to tell them.

    Personally i would not invite any neighbours -i prefer to keep them at arms length due to previous negative experiences with neighbours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    I live in a small development (32 units) and we define antisocial hours as between 10PM and 7AM. We also specify no washing machines or outdoor activities which impinge on neighbours after 9PM. You'd be surprised at how little cop on some people have. If there are small children in the neighbourhood- they probably go to bed reasonably early. Its not fair to show no concern for how you might impact on your neighbours. Also- if you've bought- you are probably impacting on people who are likely to be your neighbours long term- throwing a mad party is a sure fire way to annoy the living hell out of most of your neighbours.

    There is nothing wrong with having a house warming party- however, keep it civil and show due concern towards your neighbours- its not rocket science.

    No washing machines going after 9pm is a little extreme. You're asking people not to avail of nightsaver units which seems a little selfish. Night is a great time to put on washing. I live in a high density apartment block and never hear else's washing machine at any time.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    __Alex__ wrote: »
    No washing machines going after 9pm is a little extreme. You're asking people not to avail of nightsaver units which seems a little selfish. Night is a great time to put on washing. I live in a high density apartment block and never hear else's washing machine at any time.

    Its actually in the leases that were originally drawn up when the development was built in 1996. Unfortunately- the noise insulation between the units- is not what it should be- you can hear your neighbours going to the toilet at night- neighbours television even when on low- and if someone next door is up at night you can hear floor boards creaking etc. All floors are carpeted to try and minimise the noise etc- to no avail. Unfortunately- that's what the older building regs that were in place in the early 90s resulted in..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭amtc


    You're perfectly entitled to have a party...you should tell the neighbours...not necessary to invite. There's been two parties since I moved in...one was next door...guy didn't tell me and went on all night...when I protested at 5am, his friends posted glass and lit cigarettes in through my letterbox. House behind had one and they told me so I went to a friend's that night after a quick drink with them.

    The worse thing was my neighbour on the other side who were very...active...at precisely 11.15pm...with a private party every night. Their children are cute though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    I live in a small development (32 units) and we define antisocial hours as between 10PM and 7AM. We also specify no washing machines or outdoor activities which impinge on neighbours after 9PM. You'd be surprised at how little cop on some people have. If there are small children in the neighbourhood- they probably go to bed reasonably early. Its not fair to show no concern for how you might impact on your neighbours. Also- if you've bought- you are probably impacting on people who are likely to be your neighbours long term- throwing a mad party is a sure fire way to annoy the living hell out of most of your neighbours.

    There is nothing wrong with having a house warming party- however, keep it civil and show due concern towards your neighbours- its not rocket science.

    Is you flat made of cardboard? A washing machine shouldn't bother someone in a differenct room nevermind in a different flat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    jaysus, this is one of the many reasons I'll fight tooth and nail to build a one off house.

    OP , if its a semi-d - tell your attached neighbour that you're having a party. up to them to do what they need to do to avoid it. Music till 12 on a weekend be grand, 11 during the week, after that keep everyone in a room thats not on the adjoining wall if possible. Let people smoke inside, you can get the smell out the next day, if you send them out the back somebody will complain as all drunk people make noise always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    FrStone wrote: »
    Is you flat made of cardboard? A washing machine shouldn't bother someone in a differenct room nevermind in a different flat.

    Not true. I've lived in my place for over 12 years and I'm in an L shaped block. There's a balcony joining both sides of the L. New people bought the apartment on the other side of the L and moved the washing machine. Even though it's not on the external wall and there's a large balcony between the apartments I thought it was like a siren going off in my apartment. Had a friendly chat and they didn't realise so offered not to use it after 10. I was happy with that but if they've not realised the time I don't complain, I know it's not deliberate.

    OP I would definitely drop in and meet the neighbours and politely mention that you'll be having a few people over but that you'll try to ensure that no noise can be heard from outside after a certain time. Shows you as considerate...depending on the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    jaysus, this is one of the many reasons I'll fight tooth and nail to build a one off house.

    OP , if its a semi-d - tell your attached neighbour that you're having a party. up to them to do what they need to do to avoid it. Music till 12 on a weekend be grand, 11 during the week, after that keep everyone in a room thats not on the adjoining wall if possible. Let people smoke inside, you can get the smell out the next day, if you send them out the back somebody will complain as all drunk people make noise always.

    Why is it any more acceptable to disturb your neighbours on the weekend?? Stupid music blaring won't "be grand" any hour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Why is it any more acceptable to disturb your neighbours on the weekend?? Stupid music blaring won't "be grand" any hour.

    Because most people don't have to be up for work the next day, and chances are theyre out having a few drinks or up till 12 anyway.

    Nobody's talking about blaring a huge sound system with bass bins that shake your neighbours house to bits ( as a young and foolish eric cartman once did haha) , most normal speakers will only be faintly heard through a modern semi-d wall, enough to annoy people trying to sleep but not people already awake, cut off at 12 and most people would be happy to be inconvenienced for an hour on a one off basis or only at major holiday days.


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