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42,000 feet, many commercial aircraft fly that high?

  • 09-04-2017 1:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭


    I see BBC are saying a baby was born at that height, they say Turkish airlines. Where was TA flying to and from at 42,000 feet?


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Said flight was a B739, TC-JYB, and spent its cruise at 39,000ft. Just badly researched article I'd imagine.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk538/#


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Don't think many commercial flights fly as high as 42k ??


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Don't think many commercial flights fly as high as 42k ??
    787s can manage upto 43,000ft and you'd see a few on FlightRadar flying around FL410. Not many other planes that high though. You'd see a fair few Gulfstreams and Bombardiers though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    marno21 wrote: »
    787s can manage upto 43,000ft and you'd see a few on FlightRadar flying around FL410. Not many other planes that high though. You'd see a fair few Gulfstreams and Bombardiers though.

    Maybe BBC talking poo or...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭sparrowcar




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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Long time ago now, but I think my memory of being above FL400 in an EI airbus as we went down the west coast into LAX is correct, and what made it even more interesting was continuous descent all the way in, which I wasn't expecting into such a busy location.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I flew SNN - ATL many years ago on a Delta B772 and we climbed to fl 410 once we got to the Eastern seaboard and then down to ATL.

    I think it's the only time I got to fl 410.

    RYR B738 s do fl 400 fairly regularly though. I was amazed to see one go up to fl 400 flying STD -SNN last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    I flew at FL410 in a Delta DC-8-71 many years ago; FLL-ATL so a short flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Don't think many commercial flights fly as high as 42k ??


    42000ft is not 42km.
    There are approx 3.5 ft in a metre.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Wesser wrote: »
    42000ft is not 42km.
    There are approx 3.5 ft in a metre.

    K = 000, not km. He already said feet in his op.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    B767 / B777 / B787
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................43,100 feet pressure altitude
    B757
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................42,000 feet pressure altitude
    B737-600/700/800/900
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................41,000 feet pressure altitude
    A320
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................40,000 feet pressure altitude
    G550 / Falcon 7X
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................51,000 feet pressure altitude
    GIV
    # Maximum Operating Altitude ..............................45,000 feet pressure altitude

    There are thrust and aerodynamic limitations associated with getting to those heights based on the aircraft weight and OAT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    FL420 is technically feasiable but very unusual for an aircraft in a track system; in RVSM airspace the vertical separation increases from 1000 to 2000ft above FL410.

    In terms of feasibility here are some altitudes from my log near Belfast yesterday. Mode-S broadcasts the data to 25ft resolution.

    47000 GLF5
    45000 GLF5
    45000 GLF4
    45000 GLEX
    45000 GL5T
    45000 E55P
    43000 GLEX
    43000 FA50
    43000 B788
    41050 F900
    41000 GLF5
    41000 GLF4
    41000 GLEX
    41000 FA8X
    41000 FA7X
    41000 C25B
    41000 B789
    41000 B788
    41000 B772
    41000 B737
    41000 A359
    41000 A333
    41000 A332


    This one is the all-time record genuine altitude, they only need to report FL600 but are usually much higher:

    60000 U2

    And sometimes the bogus data is amusing:

    60300 R44


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Hit FL430 in a 787 before. It was in 2014ish I think, and I had just read max alt was 43,100 before boarding.

    Should have a pic of the IFE screen somewhere, I'll dig it out. Here's the view

    414382.jpg


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    No longer happening, the tracks used by Concorde were a cruise climb, with a peak at FL600, which they did reach on a regular basis.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jetfiremuck


    Lear jet longhorn 51000' some plane classic lines . One of the few planes that can climb directly after take off to 51000'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    Currently BA102 G-ZBJA (B787-8) is over Donegall cruising at 43,100ft with BA288 G-CIVY (B747-400) cruising 4,000 ft below it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    G-TUIF cruising at fl430 en route from Punta Cana to Manchester

    17918086_10210421352302386_481210654287904872_o.jpg?oh=660254c5762e33ad4c52a46ad0e66255&oe=597490F2


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