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Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

  • 04-04-2017 1:36pm
    #1
    JoeyPeeps
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    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?


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  • #2
    brevity
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    No.


  • #3
    gramar
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    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

    The Guards are citizens.


  • #4
    Jimmy Garlic
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    Absolutely not. It is one of the top ten careers that has the highest proportion of psychopaths.


  • #5
    stimpson
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    Going by Maurice McCabe I'd say yes.



    Going by what was done to Maurice McCabe I'd say no.


  • #6
    dub_skav
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    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

    Did you draw for or against the motion?


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  • #7
    Neighsayer
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    I was brought up to respect and trust priests, teachers and guards :silly:


  • #8
    begbysback
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    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Absolutely not. It is one of the top ten careers that has the highest proportion of psychopaths.

    Can we see the list?


  • #9
    DontThankMe
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    Yes because no one polices the police.


  • #10
    Jimmy Garlic
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    begbysback wrote: »
    Can we see the list?

    There are several studies on the careers that psychopaths are attracted to, according to Kevin Duttons study -
    1. CEO
    2. Lawyer
    3. Media (TV/Radio)
    4. Salesperson
    5. Surgeon
    6. Journalist
    7. Police Officer
    8. Clergy
    9. Chef
    10. Civil Servant

    Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com.au/here-are-the-top-10-careers-that-attract-psychopaths-2015-11#reZSzawrQ8qwxpET.99

    Of course politician should be on that list too, not sure if he counted them under civil servant. There are several lists and studies, police officer is in them all.


  • #11
    JoeyPeeps
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    dub_skav wrote: »
    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

    Did you draw for or against the motion?
    I've met some police in the past year who seem to think there is such thing as making ''immoral money'' even though it's legal. It got me thinking about the worlds billionaires and how bad they must feel.


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  • #12
    Tombo2001
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    No and I wouldn't expect them to.

    They are paid to enforce the law, no more, no less.


  • #13
    Arghus
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    No. Police are people just like the rest of us. I'd say many just go into it because it's a job they reckon they could do, not because of some inner sense of righteousness.


  • #14
    bnt
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    Have a look at the Garda Recruitment forum, at the things that concern applicants. Spoiler alert: serving the public interest is not high on the list. :o

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #15
    Jack the Stripper
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    bnt wrote: »
    Have a look at the Garda Recruitment forum, at the things that concern applicants. Spoiler alert: serving the public interest is not high on the list. :o

    Where in the list is the competence in playing man child Nintendo games?


  • #16
    Tayschren
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    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

    Of course, right up there with hairdressers and plasterers Id say


  • #17
    RustyNut
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    I'm not sure about their moral integrity but their numeracy would seem to fall below par.


  • #18
    gramar
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    I'm not sure about their moral integrity but their numeracy would seem to fall below par.

    I thought they had a tendency to overestimate.


  • #19
    please helpThank YOU
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    stimpson wrote: »
    Going by Maurice McCabe I'd say yes.



    Going by what was done to Maurice McCabe I'd say no.
    My God what did to that Great powerful Man Maurice McCabe is frightening and I would say this has been done to 1000s of Men /Women in Ireland.


  • #20
    Baron Kurtz
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    begbysback wrote: »
    Can we see the list?

    He's still pissed about that whole garlic episode.


  • #21
    [Deleted User]
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    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    Do you think the police have a higher level of moral integrity than citizens?

    In theory, yes. In practice, not really.

    Considering the way the public treats the Gardai I'm not terribly surprised if they behave differently that they're supposed to. It's a difficult bloody job without idiots popping up every five seconds to criticize. I've had good and bad encounters with the Gardai... There's 'bad apples' in every type of employment. Give em a break.


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  • #22
    Ferrari3600
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    Speaking partially from personal experience, specialist divisions have some very good and committed people in them.

    But a lot of guards are unfortunately time-servers (at best) or outright corrupt (at worst).

    Probably about the same as the rest of the society, now that I come to think of it....


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