Why is Kilcoole in the Short Hop Zone

kidneyfan

Is this prima facie evidence of corruption?
33 people a day get on there.
Who are they and which of them made this decision!

Ste.phen

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, could you clarify?

kidneyfan

Ste.phen wrote: »

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, could you clarify?

Why is it in the short hop zone?
The traffic doesn't justify it!
It isn't a commuter station!
It is an anomaly.
Is that anomaly the result of some nefarious decision making and if not what is the justification?

cython

kidneyfan wrote: »

Why is it in the short hop zone?
The traffic doesn't justify it!
It isn't a commuter station!
It is an anomaly.
Is that anomaly the result of some nefarious decision making and if not what is the justification?

Since when does traffic necessarily factor into zone determinations?

Plenty of posters on here have in the past suggested that bounds of the SHZ were determined by the areas that Dublin bus ran to, and DB do in fact serve Kilcoole. Kilcock on the Maynooth line was arguably an outlier in that respect for as long as variants of the 66 route ran out that far. Perhaps it's as simple as that?

Dravokivich

As far as i know, there's not many trains that serve it hence the low numbers.

I was at the beach one afternoon during the summer, only saw one train go by, didn't even stop there.

end of the road

traffic usage doesn't determine justification as to whether a station ends up being in the short hop zone or not, and that in my view is correct. there is no mystery or corruption involved here, the station is not far from greystones and i believe dublin bus serve the area. yes it is a lowly used station both due to it's nature and the fact only some trains stop.

Dravokivich wrote: »

As far as i know, there's not many trains that serve it hence the low numbers.

I was at the beach one afternoon during the summer, only saw one train go by, didn't even stop there.

indeed, only 4 out of 10 services that pass through per day serve the station.
first morning from rosslare, the morning from gorey (if that still runs) the first and second evening downs to rosslare and wexford respectively.
the second morning from rosslare, neither afternoon or late services each way serve it.

Banjoxed

I'd relax the keks a little. Kilcoole was in the commuter ticket zone in the early 1980s, with an even more limited service than it has now. See attached pic from the first DART timetable in 1984.

kidneyfan

Banjoxed wrote: »

I'd relax the keks a little. Kilcoole was in the commuter ticket zone in the early 1980s, with an even more limited service than it has now. See attached pic from the first DART timetable in 1984.

So it goes back to Garret the Gombeen's time!

Banjoxed

kidneyfan wrote: »

So it goes back to Garret the Gombeen's time!

1980. Given how basic Kilcoole station was for years, can't visualise Charlie Haughey terrorizing his minions much over that one

devnull

T His is the first time I have seen someone on boards complain that a fare is in a cheaper zone and they think perhaps it should be in a more expensive one! 99/100 it's the other way around!

n97 mini

Balbriggan is also a long way out. It's based on distance alone and the anomaly was that Kilcock and Sallins weren't until recently. I'd blame that more on poor public representation in North kildare than on good representation in North Dublin or Wicklow.

loyatemu

Maybe they should stop all the trains @ Kilcoole - the Wexford line timetable is very padded, I'd imagine it wouldn't add to the overall running time.

MGWR

kidneyfan wrote: »

Is this prima facie evidence of corruption?
33 people a day get on there.
Who are they and which of them made this decision!

It's been like that for decades; short-hop tickets were always valid on the 84 bus route even before Kilcoole railway station reopened. If Newcastle station were reopened, it would have been in the short hop area too. Brittas Bay, out of luck.

So define how this is "corruption", please.

HonalD

loyatemu wrote: »

Maybe they should stop all the trains @ Kilcoole - the Wexford line timetable is very padded, I'd imagine it wouldn't add to the overall running time.

Well if you actually want more passengers, then stopping more often can only help.

I also don't know what relevance this is to corruption.

tabbey

Kilcoole was 19 miles from Harcourt St, now 20.25 miles from Pearse.
It is one and a half miles less than Balbriggan to Connolly.

If it was not in the short hop zone, there would be something wrong!

WomanSkirtFan8

kidneyfan wrote: »

Is this prima facie evidence of corruption?
33 people a day get on there.
Who are they and which of them made this decision!

Don't really understand your question or point here?

Answer: Kilcoole, along with Newcastle and Greystones is considered as part of the Dublin Commuter Belt, despite being in North Wicklow

:rolleyes: