Car mileage

Brian2011

Hi,

My brother is buying a new car and I am interested in his old car, but there is just one thing, the instrument cluster was changed under warranty, and the garage never changed the mileage to what it should be, i.e. the clock was reset.

However, he did get a letter from the garage stating the original mileage.

The car is due for an nct next year, and I'm just wondering if there will be any problem with the nct people when they see the low mileage on a six year old car, or does it make no difference to them?

I know when I go to sell the car, it could also be a problem or maybe not?

zilog_jones

Surely it's been through an NCT before if it's 6 years old? They only have previous NCT records to go by, so will only compare the odometer with that.

Brian2011

zilog_jones wrote: »

Surely it's been through an NCT before if it's 6 years old? They only have previous NCT records to go by, so will only compare the odometer with that.

Yes it was through an NCT but the instrument cluster was giving trouble after that NCT and was replaced under warranty but clock was not corrected to what mileage should be

readytosnap

What a stupid situation, they change the cluster but do not adjust the mileage? So you could sell your very low mileage car to some unsuspecting soul ( Obviously not saying he/you would do that). Last year i had a new engine put in my car, so I asked if the speedo would represent the zero mileage on the engine? Was told the mileage is with the car not with the engine?? So my speedo shows more miles (only 9k) than the engine has done and yours shows less, only in Ireland!

mickdw

Nct will record mileage as displayed. This will then show the discrepancy with the last test. The only issue would be if you were selling it on. The letter from the garage declaring the changed cluster would cover you off from that angle.
Did they just put in a zero mile cluster and leave it like that?

mickdw

readytosnap wrote: »

What a stupid situation, they change the cluster but do not adjust the mileage? So you could sell your very low mileage car to some unsuspecting soul ( Obviously not saying he/you would do that). Last year i had a new engine put in my car, so I asked if the speedo would represent the zero mileage on the engine? Was told the mileage is with the car not with the engine?? So my speedo shows more miles (only 9k) than the engine has done and yours shows less, only in Ireland!

It is idiotic to suggest that a car with a new engine should go back to zero on the odometer. What about the 10 thousand other parts and the chassis itself. Was that all renewed with the engine?

Brian2011

mickdw wrote: »

Nct will record mileage as displayed. This will then show the discrepancy with the last test. The only issue would be if you were selling it on. The letter from the garage declaring the changed cluster would cover you off from that angle.
Did they just put in a zero mile cluster and leave it like that?

Yes the garage just put the clock back to zero, and it was a reputable main dealer garage.

readytosnap

mickdw wrote: »

It is idiotic to suggest that a car with a new engine should go back to zero on the odometer. What about the 10 thousand other parts and the chassis itself. Was that all renewed with the engine?

I'd never had a new engine put into a new car (11 months old) before, Fail to see how that makes me an idiot, i was just saying what went down, no need to get personal is there?

Brian2011

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Take it back to the main dealer that performed the work and get them to correct the mileage - in other words, get them to finish the job. How a "reputable" dealer let a car out with incorrect mileage and how your brother simply accepted it like that is beyond me.

The garage were not willing to finish the job, i.e. correct the mileage but fobbed him off with a letter. Another problem is the letter does not state if it is Km or miles either, just a figure!

Unfortunately, I think I will have to pass on it because of this mess up as time is limited

freshpopcorn

When my sister had her clocks changed they millage went back to zero and to the best of my knowledge they said they didn't have the ability to clock cars or something. They wrote a note in the log book. Car didn't make it to another NCT tough.:D

JohnBoy26

Brian2011 wrote: »

The garage were not willing to finish the job, i.e. correct the mileage but fobbed him off with a letter. Another problem is the letter does not state if it is Km or miles either, just a figure!

Unfortunately, I think I will have to pass on it because of this mess up as time is limited

Is this an old car that isn't costing the earth to buy or is it a fairly new car that's costing a substantial amount that you intend to sell on after a year or two?

If it's an old car or a car you intended on keeping it for a long time it wouldn't bother me tbh. You know the history of the car and that there is a genuine reason for the mileage discrepancy so I wouldn't be worried there.

There will be no issue with the nct either.

It's if you intend to sell it on afterwards that it might be off putting to some.

JohnBoy26

readytosnap wrote: »

What a stupid situation, they change the cluster but do not adjust the mileage? So you could sell your very low mileage car to some unsuspecting soul ( Obviously not saying he/you would do that). Last year i had a new engine put in my car, so I asked if the speedo would represent the zero mileage on the engine? Was told the mileage is with the car not with the engine?? So my speedo shows more miles (only 9k) than the engine has done and yours shows less, only in Ireland!

No it's the same everywhere and rightly so. A new engine does not equal new car.

CiniO

To answer OP's question - verifying mileage is not a part of NCT test.

All they do is read the current mileage and put it on the cert/disc.
Discrepancy will show there (as they also print previous readings), but it's not a reason for NCT fail.

However I believe car will be harder to sell in the future as online motor checks might show discrepancy might drive away potential buyers, before they even enquire about the car.

If main dealer can't help, maybe contact guys who normally clock the cars to lower mileage. I'm sure they will be able to increase mileage to correct one as well.

Brian2011

CiniO wrote: »

To answer OP's question - verifying mileage is not a part of NCT test.

All they do is read the current mileage and put it on the cert/disc.
Discrepancy will show there (as they also print previous readings), but it's not a reason for NCT fail.

However I believe car will be harder to sell in the future as online motor checks might show discrepancy might drive away potential buyers, before they even enquire about the car.

If main dealer can't help, maybe contact guys who normally clock the cars to lower mileage. I'm sure they will be able to increase mileage to correct one as well.

Would one of the online motor checks that you pay around €40 for show the mileage and original mileage if I got it after next nct is done?

CiniO

Brian2011 wrote: »

Would one of the online motor checks that you pay around €40 for show the mileage and original mileage if I got it after next nct is done?

I don't think any of the online motor check system have access to NCT mileage database.
But now mileage is listed on NCT certs which include few previous readings from previous years. So anyone will find out looking at this.

In my experience, online motor checks source their mileage data from garages which enter mileage during services/repairs etc...

In most cases I checked cars online, no mileage data was available at all.

Brian2011

CiniO wrote: »

I don't think any of the online motor check system have access to NCT mileage database.
But now mileage is listed on NCT certs which include few previous readings from previous years. So anyone will find out looking at this.

In my experience, online motor checks source their mileage data from garages which enter mileage during services/repairs etc...

In most cases I checked cars online, no mileage data was available at all.

Thanks, do you know if the NCT will just put the reading on the clock on the cert or do they add the previous readings to the current one and put that on Cert?

CiniO

Brian2011 wrote: »

Thanks, do you know if the NCT will just put the reading on the clock on the cert or do they add the previous readings to the current one and put that on Cert?

They put few (I think 5) previous reading.
They only started doing it 2 years ago afair, so at the moment there won't be 5 yet.

But yes, they will list all reading on each cert.

So f.e. your cert will show something like that.

March 2015: 40,000 miles
March 2016: 55,000 miles
March 2017: 8,000 miles

twin_beacon

readytosnap wrote: »

So my speedo shows more miles (only 9k) than the engine has done and yours shows less, only in Ireland!

its your odometer!, a speedo is what you wear when swimming

The garage was correct though, the mileage is assigned to the car. If it was reset, then your odometer would be showing less miles than your gearbox and every other moving part has done.

bucketybuck

readytosnap wrote: »

I'd never had a new engine put into a new car (11 months old) before, Fail to see how that makes me an idiot, i was just saying what went down, no need to get personal is there?

11 months is young, but its not new. You can put up a lot of miles in 11 months.

readytosnap

bucketybuck wrote: »

11 months is young, but its not new. You can put up a lot of miles in 11 months.

Not sure exactly how many but less than 9k km