Garda Trainee August 2017 intake

TallGlass

Might as well get this one heated up seen as the offers have come out on the other thread.

This is mainly just for chat and questions I imagine.

Some common questions from the other thread...

What are the intakes for 2017?

August and November

What stage do you get called to station to meet super / sergeant?

You can meet them at any stage after the interview

Is meeting them part of vetting?

Meeting the sergeant and super is part of the vetting process.

Can I defer?

Yes, but you need a good reason! Heading away for two weeks is not one. Also be aware, you are not guaranteed a place after deferring.

OOM, Order Of Merit

Seemingly this looks to be done quite oddly, the only one you 'see' is the one from PAS, but once handed to AGS, you are placed into an OOM with them based on all campaigns from 15' and 16'. From reading on here, I would take your OOM with a pinch of salt and go with which stages you've completed first then go back to your OOM to see how you stack up.

Do you pay for meals in the college

Set meals by the college, NO you don't pay. Things like snacks, soft drinks ,beer etc.. you will have to pay for down there. There's a shop and pub on site. A Lidl up the road and your about a 10 min walk outside of the town, there's a pub across the road also.

I rang the appointments office and was told x, but x on here said something different?

The truth is, HRM nor anyone on here really knows. You'll always get different answers from who you speak to in HRM or on here, again just try stay sane and when you get an offer believe that, until then believe nothing, unless its a PCT date or Medical date!

I am entering the college with a degree, what happens now?

Nothing during training or probation unfortunately for you. Once you complete probation, fortunately you'll jump three points on the pay scale.

Garda Trainee Information Day?

This is a day or open day to run you over the PCT exam in a training mode so to speak, you do the course/machine once, up to level 4 on beep and as many push ups or sit-ups as you like on the day.

You don't need to attend nor do you need an invitation to go an open day

It's up to you if you want to go, but if it's not to far out for you or putting you out I would say it's good to go get a feel for the place, get a feel for the college etc..

I have everything done now, what happens now?

Your full application will go to the commissioner, who will decide to approve or decline your application.

Ok that's all for now. I may add more in.

Hope this helps ! :cool:

Persieway11

great advise above I'm early oom 800s January 16 campaign everything fine and advised last week vetting still outstanding so that was may gone down drain but here hoping for Aug 😎

giggsey

Hi TallGlass,

Great Summary - but can you clarify about not guaranteed a place after deferring.

>Can I defer?
>Yes, but you need a good reason! Heading away for two weeks is not one. Also be aware, you are not guaranteed a place after deferring.

I'm Sept 2016 campaign, waiting for physical.
If all goes well, say I'm accepted for Nov Intake.....I'll be in final year college then. Could I choose to deter place until I finish degree. Agree to start in the Aug 2018 intake - would I be guaranteed place in that scenario?

Thanks.

BobbyDaisy

I'll park myself in here I highly doubt I'll receive an offer next week roll on August haha

TallGlass

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giggsey wrote: »

Hi TallGlass,

Great Summary - but can you clarify about not guaranteed a place after deferring.

>Can I defer?
>Yes, but you need a good reason! Heading away for two weeks is not one. Also be aware, you are not guaranteed a place after deferring.

I'm Sept 2016 campaign, waiting for physical.
If all goes well, say I'm accepted for Nov Intake.....I'll be in final year college then. Could I choose to deter place until I finish degree. Agree to start in the Aug 2018 intake - would I be guaranteed place in that scenario?

Thanks.

Seemingly thats what your advised by HRM. It imagine it's just to cover themselves if something comes up. You can double check with them, again as mentioned also. Don't take anything as set in stone until you've signed the contract.

Henry2006

TallGlass wrote: »

Might as well get this one heated up seen as the offers have come out on the other thread.

This is mainly just for chat and questions I imagine.

Some common questions from the other thread...

What are the intakes for 2017?

August and November

What stage do you get called to station to meet super / sergeant?

You can meet them at any stage after the interview

Is meeting them part of vetting?

Meeting the sergeant and super is part of the vetting process.

Can I defer?

Yes, but you need a good reason! Heading away for two weeks is not one. Also be aware, you are not guaranteed a place after deferring.

OOM, Order Of Merit

Seemingly this looks to be done quite oddly, the only one you 'see' is the one from PAS, but once handed to AGS, you are placed into an OOM with them based on all campaigns from 15' and 16'. From reading on here, I would take your OOM with a pinch of salt and go with which stages you've completed first then go back to your OOM to see how you stack up.

Do you pay for meals in the college

Set meals by the college, NO you don't pay. Things like snacks, soft drinks ,beer etc.. you will have to pay for down there. There's a shop and pub on site. A Lidl up the road and your about a 10 min walk outside of the town, there's a pub across the road also.

I rang the appointments office and was told x, but x on here said something different?

The truth is, HRM nor anyone on here really knows. You'll always get different answers from who you speak to in HRM or on here, again just try stay sane and when you get an offer believe that, until then believe nothing, unless its a PCT date or Medical date!

I am entering the college with a degree, what happens now?

Nothing during training or probation unfortunately for you. Once you complete probation, fortunately you'll jump three points on the pay scale.

Garda Trainee Information Day?

This is a day or open day to run you over the PCT exam in a training mode so to speak, you do the course/machine once, up to level 4 on beep and as many push ups or sit-ups as you like on the day.

You don't need to attend nor do you need an invitation to go an open day

It's up to you if you want to go, but if it's not to far out for you or putting you out I would say it's good to go get a feel for the place, get a feel for the college etc..

I have everything done now, what happens now?

Your full application will go to the commissioner, who will decide to approve or decline your application.

Ok that's all for now. I may add more in.

Hope this helps ! :cool:

Thanks for taking the time to do this, great idea

Elliot192

Great advice TallGlass. Thanks for doing that. I'm hoping for August myself! Fingers crossed.

ArifI

well put and best of luck to everyone for August.

Canyon86

Good idea for a thread although November is my most realistic intake hope
Good luck all

ForeverYoung90

Fair play very informative post. Still hoping on a May offer myself 🙈

MrBlack93

I'll throw my hat in the ring but happy enough with November.

Oom ~200

Gnr_Iver

Best of luck lads with the vetting issues, I hope ye get an offer soon

Persieway11

Gnr_Iver wrote: »

Best of luck lads with the vetting issues, I hope ye get an offer soon

thanks hopefully I'll make August if vetting comes through the very best of luck for u in may delighted for u 😀

Gnr_Iver

Persieway11 wrote: »

thanks hopefully I'll make August if vetting comes through the very best of luck for u in may delighted for u 😀

Cheers bud

Gerrard2121

Hi everyone. I've been waiting almost 2 months for a physical date and still nothing. Everything else is done and vetting cleared. If I pass my physical in the next month or so should I nearly be guaranteed a place in august as I will have no outstanding stages left?

MrBlack93

Gerrard2121 wrote: »

Hi everyone. I've been waiting almost 2 months for a physical date and still nothing. Everything else is done and vetting cleared. If I pass my physical in the next month or so should I nearly be guaranteed a place in august as I will have no outstanding stages left?

There are no guarantees so don't make any major decisions on that basis.

But if if your oom is sufficiently low enough then you have a good chance to be called, again nobody can really tell you much more than that

Canyon86

Gerrard2121 wrote: »

Hi everyone. I've been waiting almost 2 months for a physical date and still nothing. Everything else is done and vetting cleared. If I pass my physical in the next month or so should I nearly be guaranteed a place in august as I will have no outstanding stages left?

I d ring them up and ask if there are any slots available for you to take at short notice worth a try

Wax100

Here's hoping for August!

cjgblm

Top 100 OOM from sept everything done with 5 weeks just waiting on vetting and all but 1 of my family live in the same town as me so hopeing it shouldn't take much longer , hoping for August in the back of my mind was hoping for May but knew it wasn't fully realistic , nice to have the summer to myself I suppose only way to keep sane with all the waiting is to keep busy ha

DE1991

Only did my medical last week, had done my interview early december and in low 100's.. PAS were very slow at passing my name on to guards dunno what the hold up was! I know its a speculative question, but considering the stage im at and i lived abroad for a year so vetting may take longer, anyone any opinion on whether August is realistic for me? (Obviously providing i pass the physical and super interview)

cjgblm

DE1991 wrote: »

Only did my medical last week, had done my interview early december and in low 100's.. PAS were very slow at passing my name on to guards dunno what the hold up was! I know its a speculative question, but considering the stage im at and i lived abroad for a year so vetting may take longer, anyone any opinion on whether August is realistic for me? (Obviously providing i pass the physical and super interview)

Really hard to tell I think once you get to that stage it all really depends on who's desk you file ends up on from reading older forums over the past few intakes and some from before the freeze there doesn't seem to be any garuntee based on OOM just the highest OOMs who's files are complete the day offers go out
(Hard to tell , nobody can say ect. Are gonna be the most popular sentences on this forum I think 😂)

kielmanator

Was vaguely hoping for May myself but reading the May Class thread I would say that has bummed out.

Anyone else in here for April 4th PCT? And how are ye set for it?

DE1991

What was anyone asked when they met the sergeant?

IrelandDylan

Everything done since February for the Sept 2016 campaign, hopefully called in August now! Be a long few months

MrBlack93

IrelandDylan wrote: »

Everything done since February for the Sept 2016 campaign, hopefully called in August now! Be a long few months

Only PCT to do myself, oom of ~200 so hoping desperately for august.

I'm literally counting down the days.
102 days until July first and we'll hopefully know by then.
getting paid monthly helps me rationalize it as 5 more pay days

cjgblm

IrelandDylan wrote: »

Everything done since February for the Sept 2016 campaign, hopefully called in August now! Be a long few months

Same as myself just waiting on vetting called two weeks ago and it was still underway afraid to call now ha
Tryna keep busy till August so I don't go crazy , aware of the tiny chance of an offer this week for 2nd rounds but not looking at it realistically , hopeing for August gonna break it up by going on a holiday for a week for the summer have 3 weeks holidays to use up from work which is also helpful
Hopeing this board will become more active once the 2nd round goes out for May

cjgblm

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Only PCT to do myself, oom of ~200 so hoping desperately for august.

I'm literally counting down the days.
102 days until July first and we'll hopefully know by then.
getting paid monthly helps me rationalize it as 5 more pay days

102 days makes it feel so far away

MrBlack93

cjgblm wrote:

102 days makes it feel so far away

We'll get there don't worry.

JN94

I was talking to someone in HRM and they were saying it will be the end of August or the start of September intake as opposed to the end of July to the start of August intake. My prediction is that we attend the induction week in the end of August and we start in the college in September.

MrBlack93

JN94 wrote: »

I was talking to someone in HRM and they were saying it will be the end of August or the start of September intake as opposed to the end of July to the start of August intake. My prediction is that we attend the induction week in the end of August and we start in the college in September.

We'll get there eventually. This may be of interest to you;

I am informed by the Garda Commissioner that there will be four intakes of 200 trainee Garda in 2017 scheduled for 13 February, 2 May, 8 August and 6 November giving a total intake of 800 trainee Garda.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2016-11-15a.35

C0693

I've had all stages cleard since December and even had to go as far as meeting the chief superintendent in early January only to be told my vetting is still ongoing up until last week.

I've spoken quite a lot with HRM about my vetting and at this stage feel like an expert on the topic so I'll pass on what I know about the vetting process.

It can take up to 18 months to complete and begins after your interview. They will NEVER tell you what exactly is outstanding so could be anything or any number of things. They cannot say when its due back only that it can take 18 months. In my own personal situation I know exactly what the hold up is but can't imagine it being the same for majority.

As for meeting the local gardai my meeting with the chief is not something others should expect, you should only really expect a meeting with the sergeant and super in your local station.

Best thing I can say about vetting is that its not in your control and although it can be hard to hear its not finished its not really anyone's fault. Just sit tight and trust in the system working in your favour and check in with HRM every so often for an update just so you know for yourself and keep sane.

Also they do not contact you to let you know your vetting is complete. You will only hear from them when your offer is made so in my case for example my vetting could be complete right now and I'm none the wiser unless I contact them.

Sparky_7

Whats the HRM number?Might ring to check is my vetting ok!

C0693

Sparky_7 wrote: »

Whats the HRM number?Might ring to check is my vetting ok!

HRM_Appointments
(01) 666 2571


Basically know it by heart now!

mabf

induction weeks for August are the last 2 weeks In July..
M

giggsey

Hi C0693,

Thanks for the summary on the vetting - your frustration is clear.

But I worry about all the applicants calling HRM_Appointments for regular updates. With 800 intake places this year, there must be at least ~2000/3000 applicants live on the system. If they are all calling for regular updates - this is unnecessary overhead for HRM and may hence delay the process for everyone....

I'm waiting for the physical and have yet to call HR for anything - the information sent out is clear for the most part and plenty of extra info here on boards.ie.

Cocopops24

giggsey wrote: »

Hi C0693,

Thanks for the summary on the vetting - your frustration is clear.

But I worry about all the applicants calling HRM_Appointments for regular updates. With 800 intake places this year, there must be at least ~2000/3000 applicants live on the system. If they are all calling for regular updates - this is unnecessary overhead for HRM and may hence delay the process for everyone....

I'm waiting for the physical and have yet to call HR for anything - the information sent out is clear for the most part and plenty of extra info here on boards.ie.

100% agree and it's always the same people ringing and emailing a few times a week! Increases the work load massively!

cjgblm

giggsey wrote: »

Hi C0693,

Thanks for the summary on the vetting - your frustration is clear.

But I worry about all the applicants calling HRM_Appointments for regular updates. With 800 intake places this year, there must be at least ~2000/3000 applicants live on the system. If they are all calling for regular updates - this is unnecessary overhead for HRM and may hence delay the process for everyone....

I'm waiting for the physical and have yet to call HR for anything - the information sent out is clear for the most part and plenty of extra info here on boards.ie.

The only time there seems to be any need to call is before an Intake if you are unsure you vetting is complete and you have everything else completed , but ring once , as there is no other way to put your mind at rest but apart from that I don't see any reason to call more than once a month as the vetting process is fairly slow so 9 times out of 10 if it was outstanding on Monday it won't be any different on the Friday so seems pointless calling
But I agree calling frequently is pointless

js2017

Anyone know whats the story with getting time off if you do get taken into the college?

Low oom from September 2016 with everything done since February, meetings, pct, etc but waiting on vetting to come through. Hoping to get August but have need a week off for a holiday that is booked for October? I presume they are not keen on people getting time off?

adam kearney

Hi lads
Just wondering about the meetings with the local sergeant and super .
Is that basically just an informal chat, someone mentioned earlier an interview ?
But I was under the impression they just had a chat about your form b and just want to get to know you really ?.
I've never heard of anyone been told your not getting in unless there family are known or have previous convictions ?
Am I right in thinking this ?

js2017

When I met with them it was just a chat about form B and what made me want to join the Gardaí. The sergeant was describing the hours and different aspects of the job and a few things like that but all in all pretty casual

MrBlack93

Going from previous intakes offers for the August intake will likely be out between the 26th June & 7th of July

Wax100

Might aswell sit myself down here since never got the shout for may!

From 2015 with everything done months. Quite low OOM too.

MrBlack93

Wax100 wrote: »

Might aswell sit myself down here since never got the shout for may!

From 2015 with everything done months. Quite low OOM too.

I wouldn't abandon all hope just yet,
There'll be deferrals etc.

alanmacklin

well, passed everything so far. had the information day about 2 weeks ago and waiting on a physical date. anyone else still waiting on a date? cheers

TallGlass

Anyone else getting a bit worried about all the stuff happening with AGS having an impact on us looking to join.

Sparky_7

TallGlass wrote: »

Anyone else getting a bit worried about all the stuff happening with AGS having an impact on us looking to join.

Not 1 bit,can't see it making a difference

TallGlass

Sparky_7 wrote: »

Not 1 bit,can't see it making a difference

Well I can. We have Enda Kenny giving support, Martin not giving his support. Which in turn could collapse the government, spark a GE and whoever gets into power implementing which ever changes they told the people they would.

I just hope we are all it all hits the fan. They can reform all they want once I am in the door and signed on the dotted line.

JN94

TallGlass wrote: »

Anyone else getting a bit worried about all the stuff happening with AGS having an impact on us looking to join.

I was reading the daily mail yesterday. They were talking about that 842 recruits passed out since the moratorium was lifted. Since 1st January 2014 retirement at all ranks stood 611. This leaves only 231 extra Garda numbers added to the force since the recruitment ban was lifted.

In my opinion this will only further increase the need for Garda recruits and this will likely lead to a further accelerated recruitment.
I think cutbacks and lack of staffing resources is part of the reason AGS got into this most recent mess in the first place. When resources and Garda numbers were cut crime levels spiked.

DE1991

alanmacklin wrote: »

well, passed everything so far. had the information day about 2 weeks ago and waiting on a physical date. anyone else still waiting on a date? cheers

Same as. Well i met sergeant last week waiting to meet super and physical date

C0693

Regarding the vetting process of the application does anybody know how you find out if this blocks you from joining?

In my case I have an aunt with past convictions and I was wondering does anybody how likely this is to stop me and if so how are you informed

BobbyDaisy

C0693 wrote: »

Regarding the vetting process of the application does anybody know how you find out if this blocks you from joining?

In my case I have an aunt with past convictions and I was wondering does anybody how likely this is to stop me and if so how are you informed

I'm in a similar position. You'll recieve a letter claiming you are generally unsuitable if they are to fail you on it