Irish rail fine appeal

Bro282

Hi I was fined by the revenue officer two weeks ago on the Dublin to Galway train. I have appealed my fine as I had a valid ticket on my person but mistakenly presented an old invalid ticket to the officer. I subsequently found the valid ticket and showed it to him but he said that the fine was already lodged and that I was best to take a picture of the ticket and appeal the fine. I'm just wondering do I still have to pay the fine while I wait to hear back about my appeal or should I wait until I find out if the appeal has been accepted or not ?

I love Sean nos

Is this a ******* wind up?

gimli2112

That really sounds like a "Computer says no" response. Hard to believe the ticket inspector couldn't just apply some common sense. Hopefully it's applied to your appeal.

Bro282

it looked like he lodged it on a tablet or phone but either way he just said to appeal it ?

Bro282

I love Sean nos wrote: »

Is this a ******* wind up?

No 117.50€ fine

BeardySi

So you bought a valid ticket, mistakenly presented an old one and accepted the fine for having an invalid ticket despite knowing you had a valid ticket somewhere on your person?

Pardon me for being a bit skeptical.

GM228

Bro282 wrote: »

it looked like he lodged it on a tablet or phone but either way he just said to appeal it ?

Fines are not "lodged" until afterwards and are manually processed, not inputed via tablet or phone. If you presented a valid ticket there is no reason why the fine would have to proceed.

Bro282

Treadhead wrote: »

So you bought a valid ticket, mistakenly presented an old one and accepted the fine for having an invalid ticket despite knowing you had a valid ticket somewhere on your person?

I travel so frequently I often have a few return tickets in my bag that I haven't used.. I showed him a ticket that was in date but only valid going from Galway to Dublin and I was travelling in the opposite direction. I then found a return ticket that was valid for a return journey from dublin to Galway and showed it to him but he wouldn't take back the fine

Bro282

GM228 wrote: »

Fines are not "lodged" until afterwards and are manually processed, not inputed via tablet or phone. If you presented a valid ticket there is no reason why the fine would have to proceed.

I didn't realise that, he made it seem to me as if he was on my side but there was nothing he could do once he had given me the blue slip 😞

MrMorooka

He probably just doesn't have the authority to cancel a fine himself(would be a bit open to abuse). So like he said, just appeal it and it will get thrown out if it's as clear cut as you say. No worries.

I love Sean nos

All the ******* ***** pretend to be on "your side" as it's a ******* defence mechanism against you ******* kicking off and planting your boot in the ******* plums.

jacksie66

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n97 mini

Tough sweary crowd here tonight. If you had a valid ticket send it (better again, a copy) in as part of your appeal.

n97 mini

Btw boards is renowned for its high horses. More of them here than any other forum.

BuffyBot

I love Sean nos wrote: »

All the ******* ***** pretend to be on "your side" as it's a ******* defence mechanism against you ******* kicking off and planting your boot in the ******* plums.

Improve your posting style before contributing here again

Jamie2k9

How long did it take you to find and produce the valid ticket. If what you say is correct then the RPU lad was just a *****. I have never come across a situation where a fine was handed out that fast and I have had checks by RPU staff on various lines. Normally if you cannot find a ticket they tend to finish that carriage and come back to a person.

Isambard

it could be the case that someone in your situation subsequently "finds" his ticket by borrowing his mate's ticket once the Inspector's back is turned. That's why he wouldn't withdraw the fine and why people on here are sceptical.

n97 mini

Bro282 wrote: »

I travel so frequently I often have a few return tickets in my bag that I haven't used.. I showed him a ticket that was in date but only valid going from Galway to Dublin and I was travelling in the opposite direction. I then found a return ticket that was valid for a return journey from dublin to Galway and showed it to him but he wouldn't take back the fine

Why do you have unused tickets in your bag?

Hilly Bill

If you are appealing then don't pay until you know the end result.

Jamie2k9

Isambard wrote: »

it could be the case that someone in your situation subsequently "finds" his ticket by borrowing his mate's ticket once the Inspector's back is turned. That's why he wouldn't withdraw the fine and why people on here are sceptical.

The stamp he did previously...

Quackster

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

The stamp he did previously...

Exactly. If the OP had a valid ticket for the journey, they would have put it though the barrier at Heuston and the date and time it was put though the barrier is recorded on the mag stripe on the back of the ticket.

If the details recorded on the ticket correspond to the journey they took and the ticket lacks an inspector's stamp, then the appeal should be upheld.

monument

I love Sean nos wrote: »

Zaph had a word with me yesterday, ta. We agreed to disagree, but that I should do what he said anyway.

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