Air Crash Investigation

Samuel T. Cogley

Does anyone else love this show? Well verifiably yes, it's on at least it's 16th season but does anyone who matters. i.e. the denizens of AH.

Firstly I love the 'human factors' side of it. Seeing how things that go on everyday at work etc. would lead to a disaster if the job I did actually mattered. Secondly the acting is so bad it's entertaining. From the 'Irish' guy in Air Traffic in cork who couldn't decide is he was from Kerry or Derry to the fact that it's always a woman or black guy that's being ordered around in the 'lab'.

Then there's the casting which is great. Sometimes something will have happened twenty years ago and the actor they get is older than the lad they're interviewing is. There's a great one where the guy is married to a bit of a frump, they get a woman that looks like a pornstar to play her.

Finally though there are some fantastic stories of skill and bravery in with all of this and it makes fr a compelling hour or so while pottering around cleaning up the kitchen.

PS yes I know there's a TV forum, I expect much more 'high level wit' here.

ToddyDoody

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Does anyone else love this show? Well verifiably yes, it's on at least it's 16th season but does anyone who matters. i.e. the denizens of AH.

Firstly I love the 'human factors' side of it. Seeing how things that go on everyday at work etc. would lead to a disaster if the job I did actually mattered. Secondly the acting is so bad it's entertaining. From the 'Irish' guy in Air Traffic in cork who couldn't decide is he was from Kerry or Derry to the fact that it's always a woman or black guy that's being ordered around in the 'lab'.

Then there's the casting which is great. Sometimes something will have happened twenty years ago and the actor they get is older than the lad they're interviewing is. There's a great one where the guy is married to a bit of a frump, they get a woman that looks like a pornstar to play her.

Finally though there are some fantastic stories of skill and bravery in with all of this and it makes fr a compelling hour or so while pottering around cleaning up the kitchen.

PS yes I know there's a TV forum, I expect much more 'high level wit' here.

How does BBC's 999 Lifesaver compare? (I think the one below is about wasps)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnBvdTE7SI4

bodice ripper

Did you see the one where a British Airways pilot was blown out of the cockpit windshield? Goddamn.

SCOOP 64

Its amazing how many shows can be made on Air crashes didn't think that many crashed but also how many are pilot error, its pretty scary.

Junkyard Tom

How come planes are always crashing?

sjb25

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CPTM

If you like aircrash investigation, you'll love Allec Joshua Ibay's channel on YouTube. 10 min videos covering the most infamous plane crashes of all time. He uses state of the art graphics to bring you into the cockpit.

Larbre34

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

How come planes are always crashing?

There are 38,000,000+ commercial flights in the world each year, carrying over 3 Billion people.

The 2013 crash figures show 17 air accidents, killing 224 people. Most of those incidents killed nobody.

You might want to rethink the word 'always', given the odds are something like 0.00004%

byte

Larbre34 wrote: »

There are 38,000,000+ commercial flights in the world each year, carrying over 3 Billion people.

The 2013 crash figures show 17 air accidents, killing 224 people. Most of those incidents killed nobody.

You might want to rethink the word 'always', given the odds are something like 0.00004%

Whoooosh...*


*kind of apt for the thread.

bodice ripper

Larbre34 wrote:

The 2013 crash figures show 17 air accidents, killing 224 people. Most of those incidents killed nobody.
There are 38,000,000+ commercial flights in the world each year, carrying over 3 Billion people.
There are 38,000,000+ commercial flights in the world each year, carrying over 3 Billion people.
The 2013 crash figures show 17 air accidents, killing 224 people. Most of those incidents killed nobody.
You might want to rethink the word 'always', given the odds are something like 0.00004%

AFAIK You are more likely to die in a plane crash then win the euromillions. People still buy tickets in their droves.

Samuel T. Cogley

The BA or was it forerunner of BA - one with the windscreen is a favourite. They knew he was dead but they weren't going to let go, turns out he wasn't dead, love the way they leave that to the end. Then it's basically some sleepy guy in the Midlands that caused the accident with 'It'll do'.

My absolute favourite is the Gimli Glider. I think I may have actually flown on it many, many years later but I couldn't get a straight answer from the flight crew and didn't note down any numbers or anything. Happy enough with might. The Captain is the very essence as cool as a cucumber. "I'll guess I'll just slip it".

A great recent one was yer man who landed on the grass strip in Florida, the story of his life was pretty amazing.

r93kaey5p2izun

I absolutely love this programme. I really enjoy the mix of in depth technical analysis, witness/survivor interviews and recreations of events. I like how they don't just show the crash then tell you what happened - they examine several possibilities and recreate them before dismissing them.

Totally agree about the hilarious micasting and bad acting - it makes the show. I love the one about the aair India crash off Cork with the investigators sitting around what looks like a smokey back room off a pub. The Aloha Airlines one where part of the roof came off is another great one.

lazybones32

Yeah, I love the show and though I don't watch much tv, I'll watch it if it's on.

My fav? The one where the Russian plane collided with a DHL cargo plane. ACI actually showed little CGI children being sucked out into the atmosphere after the DHL plane's tail fin cut the passenger jet in two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberlingen_mid-air_collision



I still love flying even though it causes me to think "what if..." on every flight.

BrianD3

It is great. I have watched it so often (and the same episodes multiple times) that I feel like I could contribute to an investigation Look for evidence that the engines were operating on impact, look for all the corners of the aircraft at the crash site etc.

The majority of crashes seem to be primarily caused by human error either by flight crew, maintenance personnel or baggage/loading personnel.

Substandard maintenance/repair work can cause a disaster many years later as in the case of Japan Airlines flight 123.

What may seem like trivial things can result in a crash that costs hundred of lives. There is at least one case of a disaster which was caused by somebody failing to remove tape from pitot tubes that was placed on them before washing. Another crash was caused by insects making nests in pitot tubes and blocking them.

My "favorite" ones are
Tenerife 747s
Sioux City DC-10
Dubai UPS 747 fire and crash (harrowing story)
Pacific Southwest Airlines 727 that collided with a Cessna
British Midland 737 where the wrong engine was shut down.
Reeve Aleutian Lockheed Electra where a propeller came off and sliced through the fuselage

Overall I'd say Sioux City was the best as it was both harrowing yet a somewhat happy story involving heroism as many people survived despite a dire situation.

gammygils

bodice ripper wrote: »

Did you see the one where a British Airways pilot was blown out of the cockpit windshield? Goddamn.

Yes. All because a technician fitted the windshield with the wrong sized screws that he visually compared with the old ones instead of following procedure and looking up Part Numbers

corner of hells

Larbre34 wrote: »

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

How come planes are always crashing?

There are 38,000,000+ commercial flights in the world each year, carrying over 3 Billion people.

The 2013 crash figures show 17 air accidents, killing 224 people. Most of those incidents killed nobody.

You might want to rethink the word 'always', given the odds are something like 0.00004%

There's little or no chance of even experincing or seeing an aircrash.....
though as a child I saw a fatal crash.

ceadaoin.

I like watching it but find that I start remembering episodes and thinking of the different ways it can all go wrong when I'm actually on a flight which is annoying

SEPT 23 1989

Its a must for anyone with a fear of flying

Like me

JoeA3

Love this show too.

The one I found most fascinating was the "kid in the cockpit" disaster. Dad is a Russian pilot of a brand new Airbus. His 2 kids are passengers on a routine flight he is commanding. During the flight the kids visit their dad in the cockpit. One of them sits into his seat and he somehow accidentally disables the autopilot. Within seconds pandemonium sets in and the pilots can't figure out what's gone wrong... boom...the plane smashes into a Russian mountain side. Really disturbing story - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593

That one with the plane full of kids and the cargo plane is also "very good". Incredible twist at the end of that tale where a parent of one of the victims hunts down the air traffic controller whom he blames for the tragedy...

ChikiChiki

Great show. Like all shows nowadays They need to do a Celebrity Air Crash Investigation with Harrison Ford imo.

Your Face

No, its boring auld pish.

Shannon757

My favourite show by miles. I'd love to be an investigator. Trying to solve the problems and see where it all went wrong.

VeVeX

CPTM wrote: »

If you like aircrash investigation, you'll love Allec Joshua Ibay's channel on YouTube. 10 min videos covering the most infamous plane crashes of all time. He uses state of the art graphics to bring you into the cockpit.

You're joking right? Its MS flight simulator 2004 and it looks like its running on a 80486 with on board graphics.

Junkyard Tom

The things are always crashing - that's why they can make a long running series about it. There's no 'Train Crash Investigation' yet there is for planes. I'm not fooled by the statistics.

Jack the Stripper

There is no car crash investigation either. Go figure that one.

Junkyard Tom

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

There is no car crash investigation either. Go figure that one.

Well it's not a form of mass transit. Riddle me this, why is there no 'Bus Crash Investigation'?

Jack the Stripper

There has been aircraft investigation on small planes, ones than carry less than your average suv. You're good at maths work that one out.

Hector Bellend

I love his show.

My fave episode is the DHL flight that was almost shot down over Baghdad.

monkeysnapper

My two favorites are gimli glider and running on empty .

Both save the day and everybody lives . fantastic .

There's another that's years old that pilot landed on green area at NASA .

Gimli glider was great tho how 2 kids thought they'd try outrun a plane landing on runway that wasn't a runway but a BBQ drag racing circuit. Couldn't make it up!!!

ChikiChiki

More recently the US Airways landing on the Hudson is a great one aswell.

That news story made me feel really happy at the time.

ED E

Air France where AP levels confused the pilots was great.


Last episode where the MRAP shifted leaving Bagram was a good one too as theres live footage of it just dropping from the sky as if gravity just doubled.

twill

VeVeX wrote: »

You're joking right? Its MS flight simulator 2004 and it looks like its running on a 80486 with on board graphics.

The simulation is nothing special, but his narratives are very good. It's like a potted version of Air Crash Investigation.

I haven't seen the Tenerife episode yet. I'd be interested to know if the KLM captain is the moustache-twirling villain he's sometimes shown as.

Alaska Airlines Flight 261, in which the captain and first officer fought to keep the plane in the air after the horizontal stabiliser jammed but eventually lost control and plunged into the sea. I find this one particularly harrowing. The crash in the film Flight was loosely based on it.

CPTM

VeVeX wrote:

You're joking right? Its MS flight simulator 2004 and it looks like its running on a 80486 with on board graphics.

Fair point if that's the case, I was thinking of the episodes he used 2016 flight simulator and thought the graphics were excellent. You're right though, "State of the art" is probably the wrong description,great story teller though in fairness to him.

Mr. CooL ICE

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

PS yes I know there's a TV forum, I expect much more 'high level wit' here.

Mod:

Nope. Common rule of After Hours is you don't post there to reach a wider audience.

Moved to Television. Please read their charter before posting.

Samuel T. Cogley

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Mod:

Nope. Common rule of After Hours is you don't post there to reach a wider audience.

Moved to Television. Please read their charter before posting.

Ah sorry, given the previous TV post which is still cracking on I thought it was okay. Thanks for the move and apologies for the faux pas.