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Female Harassment

  • 21-02-2017 11:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,037 ✭✭✭✭


    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158219099950123&id=830870122

    Not sure if that video has been seen here before but it made me think. Do the ladies here suffer from similar unwanted attention?

    I'd never have thought they'd get hassle like that but then I always try to treat everyone with respect so just don't think that way.

    Just curious really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Crazy stuff! Though at one point they do pass what appears to be a Policeman..



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    Im no supermodel by any stretch but get beeps, shouts etc out windows, shouts from guys walking. Not all guys let it be said - but it does happen. Summer is worse as i wear shorts/tshirts but it happens regardless!

    I hate it but i ignore it as best i can. Sometimes i tell them to f*ck off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,037 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Parchment wrote: »
    Im no supermodel by any stretch but get beeps, shouts etc out windows, shouts from guys walking. Not all guys let it be said - but it does happen. Summer is worse as i wear shorts/tshirts but it happens regardless!

    I hate it but i ignore it as best i can. Sometimes i tell them to f*ck off.

    Bloody hell, I'm sorry to hear that. You'd never think it was 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Parchment wrote: »
    but get beeps, shouts etc out windows, shouts from guys walking.

    I get that all that too but I doubt it's lascivious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    fat bloke wrote: »
    I get that all that too but I doubt it's lascivious.


    I just snorted my tea out my nose!!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I've had comments about junk in my trunk in the past. There are muppets out there. Best just to ignore them. At best they are looking for a rise from you at worst it could end in a confrontation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    godtabh wrote: »
    I've had comments about junk in my trunk in the past. There are muppets out there. Best just to ignore them. At best they are looking for a rise from you at worst it could end in a confrontation

    I'm happy to confront someone if the opportunity presents itself. Most guys when confronted by a woman become helpless little boys.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Parchment wrote: »
    I'm happy to confront someone if the opportunity presents itself. Most guys when confronted by a woman become helpless little boys.

    As a man, and particularly due to my size, I'd never confront any one. You dont know how they will react.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    godtabh wrote: »
    As a man, and particularly due to my size, I'd never confront any one. You dont know how they will react.

    You dont. But its hard to let some things slide - i like to stand up for myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Richard Ballantine has a section in his Bicycle Book about women dealing with harassment.

    Unfortunately, hoisting the harassers up by the hind legs and dashing their brains out on the pavement isn't an option.

    (He did regret that, for this case only, the UK didn't allow open carry.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I've had women pass comment on me when I was out cycling, never like that though. Thankfully :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I know a woman who had her ass slapped by someone in a passing car!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Effects wrote: »
    I know a woman who has her ass slapped by someone in a passing car!

    Not sure its a gender thing though. As a bloke I've had a bottle chucked at me once by a passing car and been whacked with a coat-hanger by a passing car on another occasion leaving a deep welt. Luckily very rare isolated incidents, both of which I reported to the Gardaí. If they were more regular I'd probably pick up a bike camera to give the Gardaí more to follow up on. Not a big fan of direct confrontation as the chances of a good outcome aren't great.

    A woman getting her ass slapped by a passing motorist while cycling is a serious assault and should be treated as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    What an awful woman, she deserves to be done for criminal damage. The lads arent great, but words dont deserve damage to their property


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    What an awful woman, she deserves to be done for criminal damage. The lads arent great, but words dont deserve damage to their property

    It wasn't just words. They chased her down, drove past their stopping line into the bike zone, swerved their van towards her when she tried to move away from them, one man starts reaching out to touch her. And that's on top of their verbal abuse. They deserved everything they got.

    Hopefully they'll be identified by their reg plate and charged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    What an awful woman, she deserves to be done for criminal damage. The lads arent great, but words dont deserve damage to their property

    Are you for real?? :confused: :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Effects wrote: »
    They chased her down, drove past their stopping line, swerved their van towards her when she tried to move away from them, one man starts reaching out to touch her. And that's on top of their verbal abuse. They deserved everything they got.
    Hopefully they'll be identified by their reg plate and charged.

    She chased them down to destroy a wing mirror , the video only kicks in at that moment, you're operating under the assumption that these lads just randomly accosted her, in reality she could have cut them off or any other number of bad cycling etiquette to provoke that. Nobody knows what happened before the biker started filming it.

    But there is never any circumstance where mean words justify physical violence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    She chased them down to destroy a wing mirror , the video only kicks in at that moment, you're operating under the assumption that these lads just randomly accosted her, in reality she could have cut them off or any other number of bad cycling etiquette to provoke that. Nobody knows what happened before the biker started filming it.

    Do yourself a favour and watch the entire video!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,428 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Tenzor07 wrote:
    Crazy stuff! Though at one point they do pass what appears to be a Policeman..


    Fair play to her, what a prick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Do yourself a favour and watch the entire video!!

    The first thing I see in that video is her trying to damage the left wing mirror of the van and the lad responding with cheeky comments


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Andy Magic


    I've had all sorts of fruit flung at me, usually from vans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Andy Magic wrote: »
    I've had all sorts of fruit flung at me, usually from vans.

    Ive had pedestrians fling fruit at me in the car, what is it with people in general throwing fruit at anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Ive had pedestrians fling fruit at me in the car, what is it with people in general throwing fruit at anyone.

    With an attitude like yours I'm not surprised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Effects wrote: »
    I know a woman who had her ass slapped by someone in a passing car!

    Used to be common in the 1970s, then random women started wearing cardboard studded with outward-facing thumb tacks inside their jeans and it stopped.
    The first thing I see in that video is her trying to damage the left wing mirror of the van and the lad responding with cheeky comments

    No, look closer and you'll see that after they swerved into her bike lane, she's folding in the mirror so she can pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The first thing I see in that video is her trying to damage the left wing mirror of the van and the lad responding with cheeky comments

    The first thing in the video is of a van with 2 or 3 men verbally/sexually harassing a lone female cyclist stopped at lights which then turns into them trying to physically grab her and then using the van to physically harass her also...

    Again, watch the video, and this time put the specs on...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Fake news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭daragh_


    The first thing I see in that video is her trying to damage the left wing mirror of the van and the lad responding with cheeky comments

    'Cheeky Comments'? Seriously. How are things in 1970?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    What an awful woman, she deserves to be done for criminal damage. The lads arent great, but words dont deserve damage to their property

    lame ass trolling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭Moflojo


    Watch the very end of the video, she cycles contraflow on a one-way street to make sure the van can't follow her.

    CleverGirl_Fullpic_1.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    She chased them down to destroy a wing mirror , the video only kicks in at that moment, you're operating under the assumption that these lads just randomly accosted her, in reality she could have cut them off or any other number of bad cycling etiquette to provoke that. Nobody knows what happened before the biker started filming it.

    But there is never any circumstance where mean words justify physical violence
    To summaries imaginary "bad cycling etiquette" justifies their reaction but 2/3 grown men together, swerving into a vulnerable road user, attempting to grab her, pretty nasty verbals yet she's the wrong doer for standing up for herself.

    Property damage doesn't equate to physical violence.


    I've always liked brave people, it is easier when you are big, but when smaller and outnumbered it takes a special mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Andy Magic wrote: »
    I've had all sorts of fruit flung at me, usually from vans.

    I used to get stuff thrown at me out of cars a fair bit. Not sure what a lot of it was, but eggs on one occasion at least. On another occasion, for the terrible crime of saying "careful!", I had fast food thrown at me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Moflojo wrote: »
    Watch the very end of the video, she cycles contraflow on a one-way street to make sure the van can't follow her.

    Which is a very smart move given how threatening they had already been when swerving their van at her earlier on. I've had to do the same escaping a dangerous driver before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    ford2600 wrote: »
    I've always liked brave people, it is easier when you are big, but when smaller and outnumbered it takes a special mentality.

    It was a fight or flight situation, and she chose fight!

    Had she just taken a different route those scum bags would just continue to trat women like that every day. Maybe they will think twice next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Seriously have to wonder at the mindset of lads like that...

    Good for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    What an awful woman, she deserves to be done for criminal damage. The lads arent great, but words dont deserve damage to their property

    She's a ****ing hero, and deserves a medal. The lads deserve a good hiding....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Now I am in my mid-thirties, I don't get as much I did in my twenties but I still get the odd eegit shouting "big tits" out his car window. Like what is the possible outcome of such an approach, why do these men do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Lux23 wrote: »
    why do these men do this?

    You may possibly run into him in a pub, remember his compliment and buy him a drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Now I am in my mid-thirties, I don't get as much I did in my twenties but I still get the odd eegit shouting "big tits" out his car window. Like what is the possible outcome of such an approach, why do these men do this?

    It tends to be dickheads who do it and whatever it is about more than one guy in a van it turns them into assholes.

    Maybe they watch too much porn and think you will give them a look at your cans if they shout it.

    If I was passing by this scene I definitely would have got involved, obnoxious ****, she was totally right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    I was stopped in phibsborough once waiting at the lights with one hand on the railings. There was a lady at the pedestrian crossing waiting for the green man. Our eyes caught each other then her eyes drifted down to my Lycra clad package. The cheek

    Another time, also in phibsborough I was stopped at the lights. Two women (looked like they were heading to croke park) started cat calling me. Then approached me wanting to bring me to McGowan's. I didn't go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭crisco10


    While I agree that the lads deserved it, I'm pretty that she cycled past 2 police officers at about 55 seconds in? Probably more appropriate to say it to them rather than take the law into your own hands...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    crisco10 wrote: »
    While I agree that the lads deserved it, I'm pretty that she cycled past 2 police officers at about 55 seconds in? Probably more appropriate to say it to them rather than take the law into your own hands...

    I bet nothing would have come of it - im delighted she did what she did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Alek


    I was stopped in phibsborough once waiting


    I also got a sexual compliment from a female driver once or twice. Can't say it ruined my day...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I hate when I think I've spied a nice ass ahead of me, slow then to check it out then find it has a beard :(

    But all joking a side I love the girl in that clip. Deserves the scumbags in the van right, I just wish their registration plate and faces were visible to the viewing public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭trek climber


    fat bloke wrote: »
    I get that all that too but I doubt it's lascivious.

    Had to look that word up in the dictionary !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    crisco10 wrote: »
    While I agree that the lads deserved it, I'm pretty that she cycled past 2 police officers at about 55 seconds in? Probably more appropriate to say it to them rather than take the law into your own hands...

    Not cops, two lads who are rocking the high viz look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Shemale wrote: »
    Not cops, two lads who are rocking the high viz look

    Two police men and one person in hi-vis


    2a85ksn.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Two police men and one person in hi-vis

    I stand corrected, saw the high viz and the van wasn't police, didn't screenshot the girl on the bike :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Impressive how she managed to rip it off so easily!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Well done for the girl in the video. It could have ended badly if the driver had opened his door and knocked her off her bike, but he didn't, and justice was served. It's sad to see these idiots acting this way towards other people, but great to see them get their comeuppance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭ozmo


    This is all over the place - but it was staged - Fake News

    A man was allegedly seen giving instructions to actors before the scene was filmed by a motorcyclist on Monday.

    ... “I was across the road having a break and I saw this very attractive girl with a bike talking to a blonde guy who was giving her instructions.

    “Then three guys dressed in orange site clothes turned up in a van and the blonde bloke was giving them instructions too.

    “He was telling the girl: ‘You need to ride behind the van aggressively’.

    “They practiced the scene two or three times with the motorbike riding behind them.

    “You could see there was already damage to the wing mirror, it was loose.

    Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2922701/female-cyclist-takes-revenge-on-disgusting-catcaller-by-ripping-off-his-wing-mirror-when-he-stops-at-red-light/

    “Roll it back”



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