Does a pretentious accent make you a good worker

Neon_Lights

We've all heard it, a bit of drimnagh mixed with d4 or a bit of Carlow mixed with foxrock, but does this slow put on posh accent really get you places when sucking up to your boss?

New Goat

Neon_Lights wrote: »

We've all heard it, a bit of drimnagh mixed with d4 or a bit of Carlow mixed with foxrock, but does this slow put on posh accent really get you places when sucking up to your boss?

It makes you a clear communicator, who pronounces words properly, unlike savages from the country.

So yes it helps

mickmac76

It actually might help depending on what industry you work in. People in business consulting for example should have the right accent. I've never heard one with a North inner city one.

Neon_Lights

New Goat wrote: »

It makes you a clear communicator, who pronounces words properly, unlike savages from the country.

So yes it helps

Given that quite a lot of communication occurs textually these days does this really matter though compared to writing well, and should ability to get things done not dictate over elaborating minor accomplishments with a speech and drama accent?

Neon_Lights

mickmac76 wrote: »

It actually might help depending on what industry you work in. People in business consulting for example should have the right accent. I've never heard one with a North inner city one.

Funnily enough most I've encountered are foreign, mainly Indian and half incomprehendable

me_irl

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Given that quite a lot of communication occurs textually these days does this really matter though compared to writing well, and should ability to get things done not dictate over elaborating minor accomplishments with a speech and drama accent?

Surely both go hand in hand. If you're eloquent orally, you're eloquent and polite in written form too.

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Funnily enough most I've encountered are foreign, mainly Indian and half incomprehendable

Well, imagine how we would sound learning a new language to a native speaker. Talking slowly and having to (almost overly) punctuate words to ensure they're not misconstrued.

To be fair, I think this thread is a veiled rant / chip on your shoulder. Maybe some elocution lessons will get you up that ladder!

Neon_Lights

me_irl wrote: »

To be fair, I think this thread is a veiled rant / chip on your shoulder. Maybe some elocution lessons will get you up that ladder!

That was very personal. I would appreciate if the cat claws were left at home.

More so an observation, like you see people put the prawn sandwich thwang on and I wonder is it achieving anything? Generally anything that's being explained is menial and pointless

me_irl

Neon_Lights wrote: »

That was very personal. I would appreciate if the cat claws were left at home.

More so an observation, like you see people put the prawn sandwich thwang on and I wonder is it achieving anything? Generally anything that's being explained is menial and pointless

It can't be just an observation if you decided to create a thread with the sole intent to vent about people with a "speech and drama" accent.

As other posters have said, it enables clear communication. What more do you want on this topic other than to whittle the point down to some personal agenda?

Neon_Lights

me_irl wrote: »

It can't be just an observation if you decided to create a thread with the sole intent to vent about people with a "speech and drama" accent.

As other posters have said, it enables clear communication. What more do you want on this topic other than to whittle the point down to some personal agenda?

Oh golly, have I struck a nerve?

But why do people live up to this pretence to "communicate clearly", it's unnecessary and unnatural?

lawred2

Not to add to any underlying theme here that city folk have some sort of monopoly on clear diction - because they certainly don't

But regardless of where you come from it helps to speak clearly in whatever accent you've been blessed with..

Some people have a receptive ear and would begin to echo the accents of those around them regardless of what neighborhood they've been dropped into. It's not always pretension.

Yourself isit

New Goat wrote: »

It makes you a clear communicator, who pronounces words properly, unlike savages from the country.

So yes it helps

Ha. Most middle class country accents are far more understandable than working class Dublin accents. (And I say that as a dub)

dar100

mickmac76 wrote: »

It actually might help depending on what industry you work in. People in business consulting for example should have the right accent. I've never heard one with a North inner city one.

Ive come across people from said areas, that will buy and sell your right accent crowd!!

An accent speaks to nothing of ones abilities, except in your world that is

dudara

As long as you can communicate clearly, you can have whatever accent you want. If you work in an international environment, it's not unfair to ask someone to speak a little slower and more clearly.

me_irl

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Oh golly, have I struck a nerve?

Gee wiz no!

Neon_Lights wrote: »

But why do people live up to this pretence to "communicate clearly", it's unnecessary and unnatural?

You just contradicted your own post. They do it so they can "communicate clearly".

New Goat

Yourself isit wrote: »

Ha. Most middle class country accents are far more understandable than working class Dublin accents. (And I say that as a dub)

I'm not talking about the "Dub" accent either!

Some country accents are okay while others are hard to follow.

Neon_Lights

me_irl wrote: »

Gee wiz no!

You just contradicted your own post. They do it so they can "communicate clearly".

Yes a sense of irony really gets the point across would you agree?

Do you "communicate clearly" and are you staunchly proud of your "clear communication", do you even consult?

pumpkin4life

Neon_Lights wrote: »

We've all heard it, a bit of drimnagh mixed with d4 or a bit of Carlow mixed with foxrock, but does this slow put on posh accent really get you places when sucking up to your boss?

If you're going for a job/working in D4 heavy companies/businesses (say Pwc for example), the answer is yes, very much so. If you're working class or outside of South County Dublin, it's a really good idea to learn to speak as "middle class" as possible.

These lads really do live in a bubble and lads which come in and wreck the bubble: not so good like.

Lux23

I have worked with people from all over the world with many different accents. I worked with well educated D4 heads that couldn't string a sensible sentence together and I worked with people who learned English at a fairly advanced age who were very good communicators. I would consider myself a working class Dub and I do have a bit of accent, but nobody has ever said they didn't understand me or commented on it so in my experience it's not that big of a deal.

Lux23

pumpkin4life wrote: »

If you're going for a job/working in D4 heavy companies/businesses (say Pwc for example), the answer is yes, very much so. If you're working class or outside of South County Dublin, it's a really good idea to learn to speak as "middle class" as possible.

These lads really do live in a bubble and lads which come in and wreck the bubble: not so good like.

Terrible advice, what you should be doing is bursting those bubbles not contributing to them.

pumpkin4life

Lux23 wrote: »

Terrible advice, what you should be doing is bursting those bubbles not contributing to them.

I've a very strong working class accent and when going for interviews/talking to people in places like this, (D4 related, not really other places) the reaction I got between talking more middle classie and talking more normal cùnt like is like night and day in all honesty. You can see some of these lads visibly squirm when you talk like a Joe Duffy caller.

neonsofa

pumpkin4life wrote: »

I've a very strong working class accent and when going for interviews/talking to people in places like this, (D4 related, not really other places) the reaction I got between talking more middle classie and talking more normal cùnt like is like night and day in all honesty. You can see some of these lads visibly squirm when you talk like a Joe Duffy caller.

I don't know how people can change their accent without adopting a ridiculous caricature type accent. I always get asked where I'm from because I apparently have an accent. I'm a dubliner. And if I'm abroad everybody can guess that I'm from dublin, but here in dublin people ask where I am originally from. They usually say I sound British or Polish. I don't put on an accent or try to speak any way, and I am awful at imitating accents. Great at impressions mind you :pac:

pumpkin4life

neonsofa wrote: »

I don't know how people can change their accent without adopting a ridiculous caricature type accent. I always get asked where I'm from because I apparently have an accent. I'm a dubliner. And if I'm abroad everybody can guess that I'm from dublin, but here in dublin people ask where I am originally from. They usually say I sound British or Polish. I don't put on an accent or try to speak any way, and I am awful at imitating accents. Great at impressions mind you :pac:

Ah no, I'm not imitating accents, as in putting on a voice here! . That's madness no doubt!

Just swap out words you typically use, slang basically, for a lack of a better word, more polished words. Speaking slower as well. Those two for me anyway don't accentuate my accent as much.

Lux23

But who uses slang in an interview anyway?

3DataModem

Neon_Lights wrote: »

me_irl wrote: »

It can't be just an observation if you decided to create a thread with the sole intent to vent about people with a "speech and drama" accent.

As other posters have said, it enables clear communication. What more do you want on this topic other than to whittle the point down to some personal agenda?

Oh golly, have I struck a nerve?

But why do people live up to this pretence to "communicate clearly", it's unnecessary and unnatural?

You're probably right, the accent is not helping them. It's probably because they are actually good, and those who think it's just the accent don't realize they themselves are not so good at their job.