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C licence?

  • 09-02-2017 6:22pm
    #1
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭


    Anybody confirm that a C licence is all that is needed to drive an 18 ton gvw truck.

    We got a new truck today, upgrading one of our 12 ton trucks, got onto insurance company who wanted copies of the licences for the drivers (all drivers have B, C1 and C on the licences) and they said "No, that isn't the correct category."

    So we send an email to the NDLS looking for them to clarify and they come back to us saying you need a C1E :eek:
    A C1E is 7.5 ton truck plus trailer and total not exceeding 12 ton, so I'm not sure thats correct at all?

    Have emailed the NDLS again to confirm but not sure they know themselves :D


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  • #2
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    If it a rigid or tractor unit and trailer? Could be easier if you told the model.


  • #3
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Category C1
    Trucks in category C having a MAM* weight not exceeding 7,500 kg, having passenger accommodation for not more than 8 persons in addition to the driver and where the MAM* of the trailer is not greater than 750 kg.


    Category C
    Trucks having a MAM* exceeding 3,500 kg, having passenger accommodation for not more than 8 persons in addition to the driver and where the MAM* of the trailer is not greater than 750 kg.

    Category C1E
    Combination of drawing vehicles in category C1 and trailer where the MAM* of the trailer is greater than 750 kg and where the MAM* of the drawing vehicle and trailer combined does not exceed 12,000 kg. Combination of drawing vehicles in category B with trailer where the MAM* of the trailer is greater than 3,500 kg and where the MAM*of the drawing vehicle and trailer combined does not exceed 12,000 kg.


  • #4
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Del2005 wrote: »
    If it a rigid or tractor unit and trailer? Could be easier if you told the model.

    Rigid.... DAF LF 55.220 with a Block grab attachment.

    Pic attached


  • #5
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    Rigid.... DAF LF 55.220 with a Block grab attachment.

    Pic attached

    That's definitely C.

    Good to see that the NDLS is as good as the County Councils were. When I got my CE the person behind the counter said I couldn't have BE as I hadn't a pass cert, told them that I could tow a trailer for an artic and they had to ask the person in the next booth what the E was!


  • #6
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Del2005 wrote: »
    That's definitely C.

    Good to see that the NDLS is as good as the County Councils were. When I got my CE the person behind the counter said I couldn't have BE as I hadn't a pass cert, told them that I could tow a trailer for an artic and they had to ask the person in the next booth what the E was!

    Thats what i thought too.

    The email came from "operations director", id expect him to be a bit more knowledgeable :D


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  • #7
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    Thats what i thought too.

    The email came from "operations director", id expect him to be a bit more knowledgeable :D

    I wouldn't let him direct traffic ;)


  • #8
    mayota
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    Rigid.... DAF LF 55.220 with a Block grab attachment.

    Pic attached

    Nice. What length body on her?


  • #9
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    mayota wrote: »
    Nice. What length body on her?

    20ft body. The remote control crane I just can't get used to :D


  • #10
    mayota
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    20ft body. The remote control crane I just can't get used to :D

    Nice outfit good luck with her.


  • #11
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    This just confirms how useless they all are in RSA, NDLS, insurers, etc...
    They seem to have no clue.

    C licence is all you need.

    Last weekend, I was doing driver CPC training module, and CPC instructor was trying to say that there are different categories for artic lorry or lorry with trailer. Nonsense.


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  • #12
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Del2005 wrote: »
    That's definitely C.

    Good to see that the NDLS is as good as the County Councils were. When I got my CE the person behind the counter said I couldn't have BE as I hadn't a pass cert, told them that I could tow a trailer for an artic and they had to ask the person in the next booth what the E was!

    I was told i couldnt have b+e on my c+e learner permit.


  • #13
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    neris wrote: »
    I was told i couldnt have b+e on my c+e learner permit.

    They are different permits. But the CE full will give you a BE full, if you then do D you'll get DE. That's how I got them.


  • #14
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Surely if you have a full C and got a learner CE, you are also qualified to have a learner BE?


  • #15
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    CiniO wrote: »
    This just confirms how useless they all are in RSA, NDLS, insurers, etc...
    They seem to have no clue.

    C licence is all you need.

    Last weekend, I was doing driver CPC training module, and CPC instructor was trying to say that there are different categories for artic lorry or lorry with trailer. Nonsense.

    Severe lack of knowledge there!
    From my knowledge, many cpc 'trainers' are civilians who do it part-time.

    I did my lessons and test in a rigid+trailer and so got my CE licence.
    (I actually found this set up easier to get used to in comparison to the couple of artics I took lessons in previously).


  • #16
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    mickdw wrote: »
    Surely if you have a full C and got a learner CE, you are also qualified to have a learner BE?

    I would be of the belief that - once you have all the relevant theory tests completed - you could have all learner permit categories on one permit?

    I had C+E and B+E on one learner permit (as I wished to keep my options open about which category I would go for - glad I went with CE in the end though ..even if it did cost me a lot more).


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