Property on sale with incorrect address to raise prices

RaulDublin

I am sure that this has been raised in this forum or elsewhere earlier as well.
I am just surpised as to why are estate agents and builders allowed to get away with advertising wrong addresses of the area for properties on sale - new builds as well as 2nd sales.
Of course this creates more views, hype in the market ,more queues and viewing and eventually quicker sales at higher price points.
Why is there no regulation stipulating that a house address should be the right one and not that of an adjacent area with is more upmarket or has a higher snoot value ?

Raul G

Samuel T. Cogley

I love living in North Raheny/South Sutton.

TBH though it didn't effect my map reading skills or the fact that I was wandering around Kilbarrack waiting for the EA to turn up.

Eric Cartman

Firhouse (Tallaght)
Clonee Co. Dublin (meath)
Ashtown (Cabra)
Areas in rural kildare as far as donadea being marked as 'maynooth'

Donal55

Rialto-Drimnagh.

Samuel T. Cogley

Donal55 wrote: »

Rialto-Drimnagh.

Rialto is the new Ranelagh, according to some nutter advertising a house share.

Rackstar

Grange Hill - Rathfarnham ������

dbagman

Eric Cartman wrote:

Firhouse (Tallaght) Clonee Co. Dublin (meath) Ashtown (Cabra) Areas in rural kildare as far as donadea being marked as 'maynooth'

Tallaght is huge now. My da is from Firhouse. It was Firhouse long before it was considered tallaght. Much in the way celbridge and maynooth are different towns now. Give it 30 years and they'll be on top of each other too.
I live in clonee dublin 15 myself. The town is right on the border. My nearest petrol station and supermarket are in the village. A county border doesn't dictate a town/city boundaries. Limerick city county clare being an example. Or further a field that fine European capital of Istanbul....Asia.
Don't know much about Ashtown.
And donadea I'll give you. A good 20 minute drive from the town of maynooth. Never understood it.

listermint

dbagman wrote: »

Tallaght is huge now. My da is from Firhouse. It was Firhouse long before it was considered tallaght. Much in the way celbridge and maynooth are different towns now. Give it 30 years and they'll be on top of each other too.
I live in clonee dublin 15 myself. The town is right on the border. My nearest petrol station and supermarket are in the village. A county border doesn't dictate a town/city boundaries. Limerick city county clare being an example. Or further a field that fine European capital of Istanbul....Asia.
Don't know much about Ashtown.
And donadea I'll give you. A good 20 minute drive from the town of maynooth. Never understood it.

You'll only hear firhouse people say that.

Defend it to their death so they will :P


Dublin 24

PhoenixParker

Ashtown is Dublin 15.
It's weird but that's its correct postal address.

Browney7

The whole of Dublin 15 seems to be Castleknock these days. Saw somewhere west of the Blanchardstown centre advertised as Castleknock recently.

Also, half of north Dublin wants to claim Glasnevin as its own

Gumbo

I live in Meakstown.....not Finglas

Gumbo

RaulDublin wrote: »

I am sure that this has been raised in this forum or elsewhere earlier as well.
I am just surpised as to why are estate agents and builders allowed to get away with advertising wrong addresses of the area for properties on sale - new builds as well as 2nd sales.
Of course this creates more views, hype in the market ,more queues and viewing and eventually quicker sales at higher price points.
Why is there no regulation stipulating that a house address should be the right one and not that of an adjacent area with is more upmarket or has a higher snoot value ?

Raul G

Have you got an example OP?

Stasi 2.0

Thought Eircode was supposed to do away with this sort of nonsense ?

cronos

Browney7 wrote: »

The whole of Dublin 15 seems to be Castleknock these days. Saw somewhere west of the Blanchardstown centre advertised as Castleknock recently.

Also, half of north Dublin wants to claim Glasnevin as its own

Ashtown/Royal Canal Park are legally in the borough of Castleknock. It's on all the city plans and contracts.

Ayuntamiento

Browney7 wrote: »

The whole of Dublin 15 seems to be Castleknock these days. Saw somewhere west of the Blanchardstown centre advertised as Castleknock recently.

Also, half of north Dublin wants to claim Glasnevin as its own

This is too true. We half considered moving out to Castleknock before we realised it was too far out from the city centre. I spent half my life falling in love with properties based on the photos then clicking on the map and realising it was actually Blanch/Porterstown/the wrong side of the m50 essentially.

athtrasna

Large parts of "Lucan" are Clondalkin really but have Liam Lawlor to thank for their inflated price tag.

Eric Cartman

athtrasna wrote: »

Large parts of "Lucan" are Clondalkin really but have Liam Lawlor to thank for their inflated price tag.

+1 , liffey valley zoned as 'quarryvale' so the shops weren't completely uninsurable.

dbagman

Browney7 wrote:

The whole of Dublin 15 seems to be Castleknock these days. Saw somewhere west of the Blanchardstown centre advertised as Castleknock recently.

Accept clonee dublin 15, which is actually meath....apparently 😛😛

Eric Cartman

dbagman wrote: »

Accept clonee dublin 15, which is actually meath....apparently 😛😛

post office and village centre is meath, its meath.

Chuchote

Areas always go up and down. In the 1900s Rathmines was awfully awfully posh and known as the Premier Township; now it's studenty and flatty for years, but signs like Fallon & Byrne about to open a gigantic shop and a sudden rash of good restaurants suggests that it's about to swing back upmarket.

dbagman

Eric Cartman wrote:

post office and village centre is meath, its meath.

Not disputing the village centre. No doubt meath.

ThisRegard

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Firhouse (Tallaght)
Clonee Co. Dublin (meath)

Going back to at least the 80s anyway Firehouse was always seen as not Tallaght.

And Clonee does sit on both sides of the county line.

Edit Dbagman has made the very same points.

Browney7 wrote: »

The whole of Dublin 15 seems to be Castleknock these days. Saw somewhere west of the Blanchardstown centre advertised as Castleknock recently.

Technically it is all part of either the townland or civil parish, can't remember which, of Castleknock.

RaulDublin

There are just too many if these examples specially d15 areas advertised as castlenock.
Hamilton park,castleknock
Mulberry park,castleknock
Riverwood court ,castleknock
Maple Avenue. castleknock
Bramley park castleknock
Woodstown heath knocklyon

..just the ones on top of my head. Now some of them may be right as well and lets not debate each of these but still its just irritating to see them get away with it so easily ..

andekwarhola

Kimmage (Crumlin)

Red Kev

Anywhere east of the N11 is either "Blackrock" or "Dalkey".

RaulDublin

Stasi 2.0 wrote: »

Thought Eircode was supposed to do away with this sort of nonsense ?

True but I doubt that it has a big uptake. how many of us remember ours ? unless ordering dominos

TheIrishGrover

I live in Littlepace. Bought there in 2000. I remember people were stating their address was "Clonee, County Dublin". Anything to not have D15.

mockingjay

Some areas outside Naas known as the K4 district!


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055142590

http://www.independent.ie/life/home-garden/homes/kildare-house-with-2008-asking-price-of-125m-sells-for-375k-26837888.html

ThisRegard

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I live in Littlepace. Bought there in 2000. I remember people were stating their address was "Clonee, County Dublin". Anything to not have D15.

It's something I've wondered about though. Why are some places on the border with the neighbouring county, north and south, designated as County Dublin, whereas others get a postcode?

Nika Bolokov

athtrasna wrote: »

Large parts of "Lucan" are Clondalkin really but have Liam Lawlor to thank for their inflated price tag.

Clondalkin was the original one of these.

What is now Clondalkin was 30 years ago a number of different town lands made up of:

Clondalkin
Ronanstown
Neilstown
Clonburris
Bawnogue

The government in its wisdom decided to build thousands of social houses in the second and third in the list moving people from the inner city to a rural area with nothing but empty fields driving distance from the only one of the above with any infrastructure which was Clondalkin hence all ended up badged as Clondalkin which has obviously worked out well.........

The bits of Lucan that are in Clondalkin are not in Clondalkin at all but one of the townlands that were stuck on in the 80s and these bits are closer to Lucan to Clondalkin.

Builders drawing lines on maps depending on the prevailing fashion of the day

Samuel T. Cogley

On the other side of this though what magical barrier does one walk through when moving from a street that's in say Castleknock and one that is the Blanchardstown. Do burglars, riff-raff and various ne'er-do-well avoid the area out of respect for the increased house prices? Perhaps people who go in for this rubbish deserve what they get to a degree?

ciarang85

http://search.savills.com/property-detail/gbclondue150099#/r/detail/GBCLONDUE150099

Ballybough - Drumcondra

Came across another one in that area advertised as Clontarf!

Mrs OBumble

Who defines the official address anyways? What use is a postal address for house-hunters, they're hardly going to send a letter into houses they're interested in.

Love2love

They're trying to rebrand the area around Pearse Street (where the flats are) as SOBO (Between Sean O Casey Bridge and Samuel Beckett Bridge)

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Michael D Not Higgins

Love2love wrote: »

They're trying to rebrand the area around Pearse Street (where the flats are) as SOBO (Between Sean O Casey Bridge and Samuel Beckett Bridge)

That's as bad as the Sodo Sopa episode of South Park.

Sleeper12

Samuel T. Cogley wrote:

I love living in North Raheny/South Sutton.

Saw a house off the kilbarrack road advertised as Sutton. Between kilbarrack you have bayside and even part of Baldoyle before you hit Sutton.
It's mad Ted

Cyrus

Red Kev wrote: »

Anywhere east of the N11 is either "Blackrock" or "Dalkey".

and west is foxrock or dundrum

all of deansgrange is blackrock :rolleyes:

TheChizler

Salvador Late Gooseberry wrote: »

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What's an Eircode address? Do you mean postal address?

c6ysaphjvqw41k

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TheChizler

Salvador Late Gooseberry wrote: »

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The website is just using a Geodirectory lookup for your address. Eircode doesn't modify your existing address. Get on to AnPost if there's an error in your geographic address.

Hollister11

Examples that I have experienced

Tonlegee Road Coolock is Raheny
Donaghmede is Baldoyle
Baldoyle Is Sutton
Kilbarrack is Sutton
Bayside is Sutton
Waterside swords is Malahide.

Samuel T. Cogley

To be fair Kilbarrack is anywhere other than Kilbarrack because of the Snapper.

Flatzie_poo

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

To be fair Kilbarrack is anywhere other than Kilbarrack because of the Snapper.

A1 Sharden!



Glasnevin being sucked into Finglas was the one I spotted the most on myhome

Love2love

Flatzie_poo wrote: »

A1 Sharden!



Glasnevin being sucked into Finglas was the one I spotted the most on myhome

Glasnevin Ave was originally called Ballymum Ave until a local TD moved onto the street apparently....

quadrifoglio verde

someone once told me they lived on the malahide road.
Sorry love, thats Darndale :pac:

LirW

Regarding Glasnevin: My In-laws have there house right at the border of Glasnevin (D9), but officially D11 is literally across the road. Tell them they live basically in Finglas and should calm down with their prejudice... I think my MIL would behead you.
Also Ballymun is just a few streets up and while she's incredibly proud to live in Glasnevin, she drives up Ballymun Road with the cardoors locked :rolleyes:

the_syco

LirW wrote: »

she drives up Ballymun Road with the cardoors locked :rolleyes:

Cardoors would be locked before I entered Dublin, tbh! :P

Have seen Leixlip described as West Dublin by jobs companies and the odd house.

Robineen

ciarang85 wrote: »

http://search.savills.com/property-detail/gbclondue150099#/r/detail/GBCLONDUE150099

Ballybough - Drumcondra

Came across another one in that area advertised as Clontarf!

That's far enough up the Clonliffe Road to be considered Drumcondra, IMO. I always think of Clonliffe as Drumcondra.

Robineen

LirW wrote: »

Regarding Glasnevin: My In-laws have there house right at the border of Glasnevin (D9), but officially D11 is literally across the road. Tell them they live basically in Finglas and should calm down with their prejudice... I think my MIL would behead you.

I know someone who grew up in Dublin 11 and she calls where she grew up Glasnevin. She grew up in Poppintree. Does anyone know if that's considered Glasnevin or Finglas?

In fairness, I don't blame people for feeling a bit self-conscious about growing up in areas perceived to be less salubrious. A lot of people can be quite judgemental about stuff like that and it must be annoying to have someone judge you on where you are from before even getting to know you.

Chuchote

…and sometimes it's the other way around; you may say you live in Kimmage so people don't drawl "Rawthgawr, eh?" at you, or in Rathgar so people don't sneer "Kimmage, royh?"