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Clear majority of Europeans want a total ban on Muslim immigration

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    That's the about the sample size for most polls. Usually with a 3% or so margin of error

    ...and we've seen how accurate they have become of late.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    Multiculturalism is not about the 'integration of people into Irish culture', or at least not purely. The reason I say that is because it is a two-way street, multiculturalism is also about the integration of Irish society into a multicultural and globalised world.

    Mankind has clearly decided that it is a species which wants to explore, learn, develop and to trade globally. As technology and means of travel grow ever more accessible to the everyday person, the interaction of people of many cultural backgrounds is inevitable. That inevitability necessitates an openness to other cultures and a willingness to interact and learn from them. From that flows all the ties that bind from "intercultural" marriages and friendships.

    The question of whether multiculturalism is a virtue or not is simply irrelevant, it is a reality which has invariably developed alongside the internationalisation of the world -- we either learn to embrace it and learn from it, or we pull back in a drive for monoculturalism, which I believe history has taught us never really works out that well.

    Yeah, that's why Britain and the US voted against it. That's why 55% of Europeans in that poll voted against it, with only 20% in favour. That's why there's a resurgent right in the Netherlands, France, Germany, Sweden, Austria.

    "Mankind" seems to only consist of white countries to you. Nigeria, Mauritius, India, Bengal, Dominican Republic... Which of these are being asked to become multicultural?

    Please don't talk for mankind when it's only a minority of a minority that supports your view.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    AnGaelach wrote: »
    "Mankind" seems to only consist of white countries to you. Nigeria, Mauritius, India, Bengal, Dominican Republic... Which of these are being asked to become multicultural?

    India is multi-cultural.......... They have various ethnic, reglious and lingustic groups in that country.

    Bengal is split between India and Bangladesh, so again defacto a multi-cultural region, split between 2 countries.

    Niegeria, has a mixture of various tribes, ethnic groups, lingustic groups and Religions, so again multi-cultural.

    Mauritius is a tiny island in the middle of no where, so if it is mono-cultural it wouldn't surpise me, due to its geographic isoloation. Having said that, don't know much about it either way.

    Don't know much about the Dominican Republic.

    I have to say you picked some of the worst possible examples, and I take it you pretty much assumed all the people in those countries were the same. There is a word for that........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    wes wrote: »
    Don't know much about the Dominican Republic.
    You probably know all about Haiti from disaster scenes on the TV. Well contrary to what most people think, its not actually an island. Its only one side of an island, and on the other side of the island is the Dominican Republic.
    So Haiti is poverty stricken, has regular riots, has a severe ecological problem with desertification due to uncontrolled felling of the trees, people live in shacks that blow down in strong winds, and is French speaking with a majority black population descended from freed slaves.

    Dominican Republic is reasonably prosperous, the houses stay up, is a pleasant landscape and still has forests, is Spanish speaking with a Hispanic and mixed race population, and rarely gets into the news.

    So there you go, two cultures, two countries, one island. One culture prospers, one relies on foreign aid.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    wes wrote: »
    India is multi-cultural.......... They have various ethnic, reglious and lingustic groups in that country.

    Bengal is split between India and Bangladesh, so again defacto a multi-cultural region, split between 2 countries.

    Niegeria, has a mixture of various tribes, ethnic groups, lingustic groups and Religions, so again multi-cultural.

    Mauritius is a tiny island in the middle of no where, so if it is mono-cultural it wouldn't surpise me, due to its geographic isoloation. Having said that, don't know much about it either way.

    Don't know much about the Dominican Republic.

    I have to say you picked some of the worst possible examples, and I take it you pretty much assumed all the people in those countries were the same. There is a word for that........

    It very possible that some examples more suited to your view may present shortly...and MUCH closer to our homelands.....

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/turkey-warns-of-retaliation-in-the-harshest-ways-after-ministers-barred-from-speaking-in-netherlands-35522989.html
    Turkey told the Netherlands that it would retaliate in the "harshest ways" after Turkish ministers were barred from speaking in Rotterdam in a row over Ankara's political campaigning among Turkish emigres.
    Erdogan is looking to the large number of emigre Turks living in Europe, especially in Germany and the Netherlands, to help clinch victory next month in a referendum that would give the presidency sweeping new powers.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will do everything possible to prevent Turkish political tensions spilling onto German soil. Four rallies in Austria and one in Switzerland have been cancelled due to the growing dispute
    .

    I wonder if sitting on one's hands is a viable response to Mr Erdogan's crusade ?

    Cultures....Tribes...Religions.....all one big happy family...Yes/No ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    True Alex, why are all these rioting patriotic Turks living in Germany and Holland if they live their homeland so much? Back to Turkey with them all if they don't want to integrate and want to support Their Dictator Erdogan.


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