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Sunday opening

  • 05-02-2017 11:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭


    I went for a drive today as I have many Sundays and I'm still stunned by the amount of people looking around garages at cars and sales closed . Some of the garages have gates and obviously closed to the public .

    Am I missing something???? Surely most people are off weekends and only then get a chance to go looking at cars.

    Now maybe its a region thing as I live in Kerry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    Everyone needs a day off. If they're that desperate, they'll return during the week :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I went for a drive today as I have many Sundays and I'm still stunned by the amount of people looking around garages at cars and sales closed . Some of the garages have gates and obviously closed to the public .

    Am I missing something???? Surely most people are off weekends and only then get a chance to go looking at cars.

    Now maybe its a region thing as I live in Kerry.

    I know a garage that opened a Sunday with plenty of advertising , had stuff for kids and all. Staff sat around all day doing nothing. Didn't try it again and this is a Dublin based main dealer. People like looking or going to shopping centres on Sunday, they don't buy cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭jimbis


    Some people like to view cars without some little sales fcuker hounding them to buy anything they glance at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Everyone needs a day off. If they're that desperate, they'll return during the week :)

    +1 and without children in tow. I was in the Joe Duffy BMW showroom near the M50 one Sunday and an entire family headed up by a comedian monopolised the one sales guy who was working, I had driven over from the southside to look at a specific secondhand car but couldn't get his attention. This guy just waffled on and on to show his family what a great guy he was, clearly a tyre-kicker of the highest order.

    The trouble with opening on a Sunday is that along with showhouses, you will be a magnet for families looking for free entertainment to pass the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    If I was a dealer I would close Monday and Tuesday and open Sunday instead.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Opening Sunday will bring the masses of John and Mary and their five children Emma, Louise, Sinead, Jack, Tom and the youngest Mairead in their trusty 1.9tdi alhambra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Opening Sunday will bring the masses of John and Mary and their five children Emma, Louise, Sinead, Jack, Tom and the youngest Mairead in their trusty 1.9tdi alhambra.

    The exact cheapppppppppppppeeeeee tax hunters you need to sell cars to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,700 ✭✭✭goochy


    think the should maybe have a security guard there and let people browse around but leave the deals to Monday to Friday - frank hogans in limerick does be full of people browsing after hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Opening Sunday will bring the masses of John and Mary and their five children Emma, Louise, Sinead, Jack, Tom and the youngest Mairead in their trusty 1.9tdi alhambra.

    It doesn't, have seen it tried out twice locally (plenty of coverage - social media and traditional media) and both were flops. Though I did get to sit in a Ferrari at one :D (had no intention of buying though). As said above Sundays in our house - telly, shopping, entertain the kids, dinner, telly. The closest I'll get to buying a car is Matchbox.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    If there were money to be made having Sunday opening they would probably do that.
    Maybe the people you saw are just tyre kickers on a Sunday and not serious buyers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    We tried Sunday opening and only got time wasters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    We tried Sunday opening and only got time wasters.

    Well that's fair enough .... I was only thinking about it from a sales point of view , some of the garages are really modern expensive fitted out so I thought wouldn't it make more sense to be open if there was money to be made .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    People normally go to forecourts on a Sunday to browse at stock rather than buy. Doing so when they are closed allows people to have a good look around the cars without the added pressure or distraction of sales staff. On the flip side from a sales point of view, it can draw people who have time to kill on a Sunday afternoon and have no intention of buying a car. Those serious about buying will normally come back when they are open to make further enquiries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Well that's fair enough .... I was only thinking about it from a sales point of view , some of the garages are really modern expensive fitted out so I thought wouldn't it make more sense to be open if there was money to be made .

    Car salespeople often work 55 hour weeks as it is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Not exactly physical killing work a salesperson to be fair. Some even have time to be posting on Boards all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Not exactly physical killing work a salesperson to be fair. Some even have time to be posting on Boards all day.

    You still have to be there for when the customers walk in though. I can't see many choosing to work Sunday even if they got a day off in lieu. A lot of them see their families little enough as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    colm_mcm wrote:
    Car salespeople often work 55 hour weeks as it is.


    But think of the wages ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Car salespeople often work 55 hour weeks as it is.

    48,000 posts disagree with you that u are working....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    robtri wrote: »
    48,000 posts disagree with you that u are working....

    I gave up car sales years ago.
    But think of the wages ;)

    I see what you did there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    colm_mcm wrote:
    I see what you did there!

    Haha, had to have my dig back :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Car salespeople often work 55 hour weeks as it is.
    It's that not the expected minimum in many industries now.
    Certainly the construction industry which I was involved in, management are expected to do at least 60 hour weeks and workload would push that to well over 70.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    mickdw wrote: »
    It's that not the expected minimum in many industries now.
    Certainly the construction industry which I was involved in, management are expected to do at least 60 hour weeks and workload would push that to well over 70.

    Those jobs pay by the hour though. Any car salespeople I know would be paid for 37-39 hours a week on their basic wage. Of course commission would bring that figure up if cars were being sold. But in the context of this thread, I can't see why you'd take a Tuesday off just so you could work Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Those jobs pay by the hour though. Any car salespeople I know would be paid for 37-39 hours a week on their basic wage. Of course commission would bring that figure up if cars were being sold. But in the context of this thread, I can't see why you'd take a Tuesday off just so you could work Sunday.

    Management are usually salaried so no OT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Trust me, as someone who has brought his kids to a dealer when buying a car, I can tell you it's not done for family entertainment. If you think a toddler and six year old are entertained in a car dealership you either don't have kids or are the type of parent who lets their kids run amok wherever they are and that ain't me... :)

    I brought my kids with me and bought a car... not on a Sunday though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    I genuinely dont see the need for a showroom to be open 7 days a week.

    Nearly everybody will have 1 or 2 days off that if they really want too and are interested in a car, will make it down on a Saturday or during the week.

    TBH, if I really wanted to look at a specific car or talk about a brand new one, I'd ring ahead and ask to speak to someone in 30mins time, so youre not wondering around with your hands in your pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    bazz26 wrote: »
    People normally go to forecourts on a Sunday to browse at stock rather than buy. Doing so when they are closed allows people to have a good look around the cars without the added pressure or distraction of sales staff. On the flip side from a sales point of view, it can draw people who have time to kill on a Sunday afternoon and have no intention of buying a car. Those serious about buying will normally come back when they are open to make further enquiries.

    I went to VW dealership near Liffey Valley one Sunday to scope out a car I planned to go and see properly during the week. Security came on over the loud speaker to say the garage was closed and to get off the property :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    mloc123 wrote: »
    I went to VW dealership near Liffey Valley one Sunday to scope out a car I planned to go and see properly during the week. Security came on over the loud speaker to say the garage was closed and to get off the property :(

    Lots of dodgy neighbours around there. Anything not bolted down gets lifted and if it is bolted down it must be valuable so they destroy what's around it to lift it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    Everyone needs a day off

    Ehh, the OP didn't suggest that people should work 7 days a week :confused:

    Just because a business opens 7 days, doesn't mean all the staff are working 7 days :confused:

    There magical things called rosters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    What I think is more to the point than Sunday opening is the many garages that close half-day on a Saturday!!! If they are not tyre-kickers on a Saturday morning, they're not going to be tyre-kickers in the afternoon!!

    (As for people working 70 hours a week... more fool them).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    There's a concept of a 'bar to entry' it's why the likes of Sky use 0818 numbers and UPC 1890 numbers. It makes you think, am I really bothered.

    If you can;t be bothered to get up on a saturday morning or arrnage an hour off to pop along to the showroom you're probably not buying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    There's a concept of a 'bar to entry' it's why the likes of Sky use 0818 numbers and UPC 1890 numbers. It makes you think, am I really bothered.

    If you can;t be bothered to get up on a saturday morning or arrnage an hour off to pop along to the showroom you're probably not buying.

    There is also a certain arrogance that 'sure I'm the only dealer within 50 miles of here, if they want a Ford they will come to me' attitude around.

    Hyundai's initiative in the UK of online trade-in and purchase of a new car might encourage car dealerships to be a little more open to suiting the customer rather than staff...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Online is different, there's much lower overheads, it attracts a differnt type of punter and I can assure an awful lot of time wasters!

    I agree with the arrogance part to a certain extent though. However it'd take some deal to get me away from the dealership I deal with even if he was only open for 15 minutes on a Wednesday evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Noccy_Mondy


    dfeo wrote:
    Ehh, the OP didn't suggest that people should work 7 days a week

    Just because a business opens 7 days, doesn't mean all the staff are working 7 days

    There magical things called

    Alright, no need to be getting smart about it!

    All I'm saying is that there's 6 other days of the week to go and look at a car, no need to be open 24/7 365.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    I went for a drive today as I have many Sundays and I'm still stunned by the amount of people looking around garages at cars and sales closed . Some of the garages have gates and obviously closed to the public .

    Am I missing something???? Surely most people are off weekends and only then get a chance to go looking at cars.

    Now maybe its a region thing as I live in Kerry.

    Strange Kerry behaviour, thought yed all be away to a GAA game in a Sunday,or is it only one Sunday a year ye go to the GAA (we're obviously not going to go for decades)


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