Sold a dud

off.the.walls

So basically back at the end of October, bought a car, nice little yoke but since day 1 had a grinding noise when hitting the breaks, grinding soon turned to screeching. During this time brought it down to the garage a total of 5 times and they kept saying it was just dust on the breaks.

So brought it to another garage,

Heres a breakdown of what was wrong

2 x wheel cylinders cracked.
break pipes leaking -- not to sure what these are called.
2 x tyres needed replacing.
engine needed to be completely cleaned out of sediment.
1x starter coil was longer than all the others.

But the biggest one of all was the fact that the metal of the hand break was actually no longer attached to the floor. That's going to have to be welded back onto the floor in order for it to be safe and drivable again.

Went down to the garage and all they kept saying was 6 week engine warranty was all that was given, considering that they were not properly checking the car and the mechanic who looked at it after told me it would of been like that since purchase would I have grounds to peruse the garage in small claims?

Are they allowed to sell cars that are in that kinda state?

Thanks.

Kimbot

off.the.walls wrote: »

So basically back at the end of October, bought a car, nice little yoke but since day 1 had a grinding noise when hitting the breaks, grinding soon turned to screeching. During this time brought it down to the garage a total of 5 times and they kept saying it was just dust on the breaks.

So brought it to another garage,

Heres a breakdown of what was wrong

2 x wheel cylinders cracked.
break pipes leaking -- not to sure what these are called.
2 x tyres needed replacing.
engine needed to be completely cleaned out of sediment.
1x starter coil was longer than all the others.

But the biggest one of all was the fact that the metal of the hand break was actually no longer attached to the floor. That's going to have to be welded back onto the floor in order for it to be safe and drivable again.

Went down to the garage and all they kept saying was 6 week engine warranty was all that was given, considering that they were not properly checking the car and the mechanic who looked at it after told me it would of been like that since purchase would I have grounds to peruse the garage in small claims?

Are they allowed to sell cars that are in that kinda state?

Thanks.

The onus is really on yourself to make sure you get a mechanic etc to give it a look over first.

nhunter100

Depending on how much you spent, the small claims court maybe an option.

off.the.walls

nhunter100 wrote: »

Depending on how much you spent, the small claims court maybe an option.

The repairs are running up just under €500.

bear1

Tbh if the car was grinding the very first day you bought it from them you should have gone back immediately for them to fix it. Grinding is never normal.
2 tyres needed replacing, to be fair that one is on you to check the conditions of the tyres.
Go back to the dealer and show him the list bar the 2 tyres and ask if they will cover it under good faith or maybe a 50/50 deal.

off.the.walls

bear1 wrote: »

Tbh if the car was grinding the very first day you bought it from them you should have gone back immediately for them to fix it. Grinding is never normal.
2 tyres needed replacing, to be fair that one is on you to check the conditions of the tyres.
Go back to the dealer and show him the list bar the 2 tyres and ask if they will cover it under good faith or maybe a 50/50 deal.

We did go back, we went back to the dealer 5 times, each time they told us that it was just dust on the breakpads. Also the first time we went back was about 3 days after we bought it. It then wasn't driven for a number of weeks over the christmas period and was back to being driven at the beginning of January, not expecting anything for the types, but the condition of the sediment in the engine, and the fact that the handbreak is no longer attached to the floor are two things that are after really annoying me.

nhunter100

off.the.walls wrote:

The repairs are running up just under €500.

As another poster said see will the dealer agree a 50/50 deal as a sign of good faith.

Kimbot

off.the.walls wrote: »

We did go back, we went back to the dealer 5 times, each time they told us that it was just dust on the breakpads. Also the first time we went back was about 3 days after we bought it. It then wasn't driven for a number of weeks over the christmas period and was back to being driven at the beginning of January, not expecting anything for the types, but the condition of the sediment in the engine, and the fact that the handbreak is no longer attached to the floor are two things that are after really annoying me.

Well imo you need to go back to the garage and ask them to sort it out based on the 2nd mechanics findings. If they refuse then talk to a solicitor.

off.the.walls

nhunter100 wrote: »

As another poster said see will the dealer agree a 50/50 deal as a sign of good faith.

We did try to do that but they were rather uncooperative with us.

bear1

What car is it?

off.the.walls

bear1 wrote: »

What car is it?

It's a volkswagen polo.

tayto lover

The Small Claims court will cost you about 15 euro I believe and when they get the summons they might have second thoughts and pay up.

nhunter100

off.the.walls wrote:

We did try to do that but they were rather uncooperative with us.

Your options then are the legal route.

pilly

Are they an SIMI registered garage?

If they are then a complaint to SIMI can sometimes make them pay up.

Henry Ford III

I realise this isn't a spelling forum but it's "brakes" not "breaks" OP.

nhunter100

Henry Ford III wrote:

I realise this isn't a spelling forum but it's "brakes" not "breaks" OP.

So instead of offering advice, you just dropped in to point out a spelling mistake. Seriously.

vandriver

nhunter100 wrote: »

So instead of offering advice, you just dropped in to point out a spelling mistake. Seriously.

It saved me doing it.

Stheno

vandriver wrote: »

It saved me doing it.

And me.

Op how much did you pay for the car?

goat2

off.the.walls wrote: »

So basically back at the end of October, bought a car, nice little yoke but since day 1 had a grinding noise when hitting the breaks, grinding soon turned to screeching. During this time brought it down to the garage a total of 5 times and they kept saying it was just dust on the breaks.

So brought it to another garage,

Heres a breakdown of what was wrong

2 x wheel cylinders cracked.
break pipes leaking -- not to sure what these are called.
2 x tyres needed replacing.
engine needed to be completely cleaned out of sediment.
1x starter coil was longer than all the others.

But the biggest one of all was the fact that the metal of the hand break was actually no longer attached to the floor. That's going to have to be welded back onto the floor in order for it to be safe and drivable again.

Went down to the garage and all they kept saying was 6 week engine warranty was all that was given, considering that they were not properly checking the car and the mechanic who looked at it after told me it would of been like that since purchase would I have grounds to peruse the garage in small claims?

Are they allowed to sell cars that are in that kinda state?

Thanks.

what year is the car
how much was paid
had others been driving it

Isambard

it would save anyone buying a car a lot of trouble if they had a mechanic look at it first or at least take it for a test drive, which would have shown up brake problems. and check the basics like tyres.
Sediment in the engine means it's due a service I guess, you could have asked them to service it as part of the deal.

the_syco

pilly wrote: »

Are they an SIMI registered garage?

If they are then a complaint to SIMI can sometimes make them pay up.

SIMI helps the garage, not the consumer. If it only costs €500 to fix, go the small claims route, as a solicitor will probably work out costing more.

pilly

the_syco wrote:

SIMI helps the garage, not the consumer. If it only costs €500 to fix, go the small claims route, as a solicitor will probably work out costing more.

I worked in the motor trade for 8 years and to keep SIMI membership garages have to follow a code.

A letter from SIMI meant the consumers complaint was immediately dealt with.

Otherwise a garages reputation is not improved by having the membership.

They can and do revoke membership of dodgy dealers.

robtri

can u clarify

how much was paid. what mileage has been done since purchased

when u first noticed the problem and raised it with garage.

i struggle with how two brake discs are cracked...

tyres are normal wear and tear so suck that one up..

corroded brakes line are very common, a lot of failures on the NCT... but if they where leaking from when u bought the car u would more than likely have no brake fluid after 3+ months driving on them...
again they are consumable...

hand brake is a worry and garage should do something based on what u say

its a second hand car and things go wrong..thats life

why didnt you check the car before you bought it? even if you are not a mechanic, you should have spotted if anything leaking, or if tyres are in a poor state..

OP, that handbrake breaking off body happens on VW, Seat, Skoda. Welded one on my neighbour's '04 Seat several years back. It's a bad/weak design but proper welding fixes it for good.