Gran Lime, Urea, Slurry

kowtow

I know that there are recommendations not to apply Urea & Slurry (I think) and Urea & ground lime (I'm fairly sure) too close together, but do the same restrictions apply when using gran lime?

For ground that could do with all three but will be grazed fairly soon, weather permitting, what would be the best way to go - could gran lime and urea go out together for example with watery slurry as soon as it can be easily travelled?

freedominacup

kowtow wrote: »

I know that there are recommendations not to apply Urea & Slurry (I think) and Urea & ground lime (I'm fairly sure) too close together, but do the same restrictions apply when using gran lime?

For ground that could do with all three but will be grazed fairly soon, weather permitting, what would be the best way to go - could gran lime and urea go out together for example with watery slurry as soon as it can be easily travelled?

I spread urea ten days ago. We'll be applying lime to some of this in three weeks time. Slurry can go out a week after urea.

larthehar

Yes you can spread lime after slurry or urea.. i think it could be a 3wk gap needed.. if you spread lime before the other two, the nitrogen part of the urea/slurry is lost to the atmosphere and the lime doesn't raise the pH.. so could be an expensive mistake to make!

kowtow

larthehar wrote:

Yes you can spread lime after slurry or urea.. i think it could be a 3wk gap needed.. if you spread lime before the other two, the nitrogen part of the urea/slurry is lost to the atmosphere and the lime doesn't raise the pH.. so could be an expensive mistake to make!

So it should basically be urea first.

I remember reading that gran lime was different but I suppose it would be as well to be cautious.

croot

kowtow wrote: »

So it should basically be urea first.

I remember reading that gran lime was different but I suppose it would be as well to be cautious.

Growmax can be spread before slurry I think. I did it last year.

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/lime-is-the-most-essential-yet-most-neglected-nutrient-on-irish-farms/

cjpm

kowtow wrote: »

So it should basically be urea first.

I remember reading that gran lime was different but I suppose it would be as well to be cautious.

Ground lime is €19 a tonne

Gran lime is different alright, it burns a hole in your pocket!!

Username John

cjpm wrote: »

Ground lime is €19 a tonne

Gran lime is different alright, it burns a hole in your pocket!!

Each have their place...

Use gran lime here where lime spreader can't travel...

But if you want to come over to my place and spread a few ton of ground lime by bucket, that'd be great

Lambman

€15 a tonne up our way... as above wondering how long b4 I can put out slurry as I've Lima already on a week now?

patsy_mccabe

Lambman wrote: »

€15 a tonne up our way... as above wondering how long b4 I can put out slurry as I've Lima already on a week now?

Does that include delivery and spreading?:D

Lambman

Nope contractor is €5 per tonne cart €5
spread

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lambman wrote: »

€15 a tonne up our way... as above wondering how long b4 I can put out slurry as I've Lima already on a week now?

3-6 months if you're concerned about N uptake from slurry.

The best job would be to put out your fertiliser and a week later put out your lime, something to keep in mind for the future.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lambman

Thought soil tempature was very cold still till be putting out fertiliser that's why I limed earlier and was gonna slurry now but obviously I should off done it other way about I'll know for again.

Green farmer

What fertiliser would lads recommend for fields that got limed in the last few weeks ? assuming. Land dries out ?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Green farmer wrote: »

What fertiliser would lads recommend for fields that got limed in the last few weeks ? assuming. Land dries out ?

It depends on what the P&K on the land is like but Urea is out as you will lose a good bit of the N from Urea reacting with the lime.

If the P&Ks are good then a bag of 27:2.5:5 would start you off well and if the P&K was low, a bag and a half of 18:6:12 would give it an extra bit of P&K for growth for dry cattle. I would be cutting back on the Ks for dairy and sucklers due to grass tetany so 27:2.5:5 for cows grazing.

Sugarbowl

Is there any issue with spreading gran lime on silage ground at this time of year? Say taking a first cut late May/early June?

Bass Reeves

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Is there any issue with spreading gran lime on silage ground at this time of year? Say taking a first cut late May/early June?

Have done it a few times never an issue. Just make sure field is grazed before spreading and spread ASAP as a few showers will help prevent any issues as well

Sugarbowl

Thanks for that. No my fields have a nice cover of grass. Haven’t been grazed since last November. Waiting on ground to dry up to get slurry on it. Would I be better off waiting till silage is done and doing it in September?

Donegalforever

kowtow wrote: »

I know that there are recommendations not to apply Urea & Slurry (I think) and Urea & ground lime (I'm fairly sure) too close together, but do the same restrictions apply when using gran lime?

For ground that could do with all three but will be grazed fairly soon, weather permitting, what would be the best way to go - could gran lime and urea go out together for example with watery slurry as soon as it can be easily travelled?

The following web site may be of some help:

https://www.gouldings.ie/ni/our-products-ni/gran-lime-ni/