Women's March Speaker: Donna Hylton

py2006

Donna Hylton is an outspoken feminist who was a leader/speaker at the recent Women's March at Washington. She feels strongly about the oppression of women not just by Trump but around the world. As a woman she feels "dehumanised and vilified".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wztibnmiU

Now, this woman spent 27 years in prison. 'Why', I hear you ask. Well here is why:

She was part of a group of people who kidnapped, tortured and murdered a homosexual man. She also sent a ransom note to her victims friend looking for $4000,000 even though she had already murdered him.

"....sodomized him with a 3-foot pipe."

So, this woman who features on the womens march website as a Criminal Justice Reform Activist and somebody who is outspoken on how women are dehumanised all the time and everywhere even in prison.

And from her website:

Donna Hylton is a women's rights activist and criminal justice reform advocate. Donna speaks publicly about the issues facing incarcerated women and girls and the significant impact the significant increase in the female prison population is having on families, children and our communities.

And isn't this a lovely tribute to her life:

Right on the heels of her prominent appearance at the Women's March last weekend in Washington D.C., Deadline.com reports that "activist" Donna Hylton will be the subject of a Hollywood biopic starring actress Rosario Dawson. The feature film will be based on Hylton's biography A Little Piece Of Light.

This was the same podium were Madonna says she often thinks about blowing up the whitehouse. i.e murdering a man and his family. But it was all about love you know!

alchemist33

I was completely unaware of this. Has she expressed any remorse, or shown any evidence she's a changed person? If she has, I suppose she may deserve a second chance. If not, she should be treated be treated like any other murderous scum by the organisations associating with her, and shunned.

givyjoe

alchemist33 wrote: »

I was completely unaware of this. Has she expressed any remorse, or shown any evidence she's a changed person? If she has, I suppose she may deserve a second chance. If not, she should be treated be treated like any other murderous scum by the organisations associating with her, and shunned.

Does it matter if she showed remorse? Someone guilty of such a crime has zero credibility in speaking out with the language quoted by the OP.

jameorahiely

Who chose her to speak?

Vile

gramar

She's a looney radical. A bit like Trump really. She wouldn't admit it but they actually have a lot in common.

Omackeral

py2006 wrote: »

Donna Hylton is an outspoken feminist...

That was enough for me.

Robineen

She's hideous.

What's the upshot, OP? There was no summing up in your post.

Butters1979

So basically she tortured and murdered a human being, and now is an activist because prison wasn't nice for women. I find the ones who shout the loudest about rights and justice tend to have no interest in anyone's rights or justice except the identity group they have clung onto for a leg up.

She didn't like prison so much? They should have executed her instead.

reason vs religion

https://blog.simplejustice.us/2017/01/28/the-donna-hylton-dilemma/

Apparently he wasn't gay. There's a quite chilling quote in the above about why she said he was.


Little doubt that she shouldn't have been associated with the movement. But such mistakes happen all the time on both sides of the political divide. The criticism should depend on how the movement responds not it's being reported publicly.

Noveight

Unbelievable.

py2006

Robineen wrote: »

She's hideous.

What's the upshot, OP? There was no summing up in your post.

Thought people could make up their own mind there.

zanador

givyjoe wrote: »

Does it matter if she showed remorse? Someone guilty of such a crime has zero credibility in speaking out with the language quoted by the OP.

Well, Mandela was in prison for 27 years and he did some pretty bad stuff that he was remorseful of. We forgave him though because he then spoke out against his former ways. (Not sure if she has shown any remorse, and I'm not a fan of hers, but yes, it does matter)

hatrickpatrick

Jesus f*cking Christ. Only just heard of this now. Typed her name into Reddit's search engine for its feminism forums and found a bunch of self-styled feminists making some argument that because she was desperate for money and herself an alleged victim, she's somehow not the villain she's made out to be.

Holy sh!t. I supported that march and what it stood for. Totally discredited now in my eyes.

J. Marston

alchemist33 wrote: »

I was completely unaware of this. Has she expressed any remorse, or shown any evidence she's a changed person? If she has, I suppose she may deserve a second chance. If not, she should be treated be treated like any other murderous scum by the organisations associating with her, and shunned.

What's the cut-off for second chances? I think raping a guy with a pipe and killing him is pretty much one-and-done in my book.

py2006

There is another character Womens March Speaker who wants Sharia Law in the US. Her name is Linda Sarsour:

Linda Sarsour is very active on Twitter. She is pro Sharia law and a couple of her tweets even have a seditious tone to them where she romanticizes Sharia law and hints at it taking over America whereby we would have interest free loans.

More info on her

red ears

Had she tortured and murdered a woman she would not have been speaking at the woman's march you can be sure of that.

Robineen

py2006 wrote: »

Thought people could make up their own mind there.

Well, she shouldn't be speaking obviously. Is that it? But I wouldn't think she is necessarily a representative feminist. Any movement will have its loonies.

hatrickpatrick

Robineen wrote: »

Well, she shouldn't be speaking obviously. Is that it? But I wouldn't think she is necessarily a representative feminist. Any movement will have its loonies.

It's not about her, it's about the people who organised the march.

If Mens' rights activists have to put up with being associated with the likes of Paul Elam, this crowd sure as f*ck have to put up with being associated with a woman they actually invited to speak at their event.

py2006

Robineen wrote: »

Well, she shouldn't be speaking obviously. Is that it? But I wouldn't think she is necessarily a representative feminist. Any movement will have its loonies.

Possibly not but I think the organisers would have known damn well who she was. She was asked to come and speak for women.

ohnonotgmail

Are people really so terrified of women looking for equality that they will go to any lengths to discredit a group of women going for a walk?

RobertKK

To think Taylor Swift was criticised for not actively supporting the women's march...

Robineen

py2006 wrote: »

Possibly not but I think the organisers would have known damn well who she was. She was asked to come and speak for women.

I'm sure they do know. I'm not sure why she was asked to speak. I doubt many attendees would condone her actions if they knew. I'd imagine many were oblivious. I certainly have feminist acquaintances who would be disgusted at her.

givyjoe

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Are people really so terrified of women looking for equality that they will go to any lengths to discredit a group of women going for a walk?

Discredit?! It's not like she used gmail for confidential government communications.. she took part in torturing and murdering a man and was jailed for 27 years for the crime. You don't have to look too hard to 'discredit' her.

Having someone like that speak to your group quite clearly undermines your cause.

reason vs religion

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Are people really so terrified of women looking for equality that they will go to any lengths to discredit a group of women going for a walk?

I posted sympathetically earlier, but can you really see no cause for concern?!

conorhal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Are people really so terrified of women looking for equality that they will go to any lengths to discredit a group of women going for a walk?

In fairness, they discredit themselves and need no help in that regard.

Nor are they interested in equality, or at least what most people would understand as equality.

Mouseslayer17

Women like her give the regular feminist headbangers a bad name

ohnonotgmail

conorhal wrote: »

In fairness, they discredit themselves and need no help in that regard.

Nor are they interested in equality, or at least what most people would understand as equality.

and what do you think they are interested in? enlighten us.

ETA: the list of people who thanked your post is enlightening in itself.

Special Circumstances

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and what do you think they are interested in? enlighten us.

Throwing lads off buildings by the sound of the those tweets.

ohnonotgmail

reason vs religion wrote: »

I posted sympathetically earlier, but can you really see no cause for concern?!

did she lose her right to an opinion when she was convicted?

Special Circumstances

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ETA: the list of people who thanked your post is enlightening in itself.

Meee
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givyjoe

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and what do you think they are interested in? enlighten us.

ETA: the list of people who thanked your post is enlightening in itself.

The lack of any thanks on your posts is enlightening in itself. :rolleyes:

Zulu

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Are people really so terrified of women looking for equality...

Nah, just murders with an appetite for rape and torture.

Butters1979

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and what do you think they are interested in? enlighten us.

Preferential treatment and excuses

ohnonotgmail

Butters1979 wrote: »

Preferential treatment and excuses

like the right not to be grabbed by the pussy? that special right?

Arne_Saknussem

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

like the right not to be grabbed by the pussy? that special right?

I think they already have that one.

Butters1979

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

like the right not to be grabbed by the pussy? that special right?

They have that right, because that would be sexual assault.

Trump said 'they let you grab them by the pussy'. Consensual.

You're defending a kidnapper, rapist and murderer because she is a woman.

Special Circumstances

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

like the right not to be grabbed by the pussy? that special right?

"But.. but.. trump!"

Son I am disappoint.

ohnonotgmail

Butters1979 wrote: »

They have that right, because that would be sexual assault.

Trump said 'they let you grab them by the pussy'. Consensual.

You're defending a kidnapper, rapist and murderer because she is a woman.

and you are defending a misogynist serial assaulter of women who liked to perve over young women at his beauty pageants.

ohnonotgmail

It seems to me that the real special snowflakes around the world are the man-childs who cannot stand the thought that society doesnt think they deserve better treatment than women. which is ironic given their love of the term.

Butters1979

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and you are defending a misogynist serial assaulter of women who liked to perve over young women at his beauty pageants.

All the women rounded up and forced to enter beauty pageants and had no idea men would be judging their looks like that.... Wait.

Ok let's say I was for the sake of arguing. Which is worse?

eyerer

I find it a bit sour to hear them complain about the justice system vs women. Any time I've heard of a man and a woman convicted together for a crime the man always gets a much heavier sentence. "oh he must have made her do it". A feminist once said to me, but oh prison doesnt help to reform women as much. Ludicrous.

Butters1979

eyerer wrote: »

I find it a bit sour to hear them complain about the justice system vs women. Any time I've heard of a man and a woman convicted together for a crime the man always gets a much heavier sentence. "oh he must have made her do it". A feminist once said to me, but oh prison doesnt help to reform women as much. Ludicrous.

There were 6 of them convicted, 3 men and 3 women. They all got the same sentence. But 'vagina' so unfair.

hatrickpatrick

Having looked at feminist reaction to this story on Reddit in the last hour, it's the inability of many to do anything other than get defensive about it (compared with how MRAs are happy to throw Elam under the bus for his bullsh!t) that speaks volumes in my view. There's even a psychology today article floating around which attempts to minimise what she did based on two factors: one, how could this lovely, pretty young woman be such a monster, and two, that she was allegedly abused herself. Nobody seems willing to come out and say that she's a vile monster who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a so called gender equality movement.

Parchment

Dont paint all feminists with the same brush. I consider myself a feminist but i am shocked and appalled at the organisers allowing her to speak. She does not speak for me as a feminist.

ohnonotgmail

Butters1979 wrote: »

All the women rounded up and forced to enter beauty pageants and had no idea men would be judging their looks like that.... Wait.

Ok let's say I was for the sake of arguing. Which is worse?

he went in to the dressing rooms to have a good perve while they were changing. you think that is acceptable behaviour? and this was at Miss Teen USA.

eyerer

Butters1979 wrote: »

eyerer wrote: »

I find it a bit sour to hear them complain about the justice system vs women. Any time I've heard of a man and a woman convicted together for a crime the man always gets a much heavier sentence. "oh he must have made her do it". A feminist once said to me, but oh prison doesnt help to reform women as much. Ludicrous.

There were 6 of them convicted, 3 men and 3 women. They all got the same sentence. But 'vagina' so unfair.

I wasn't referring specifically to this case

Butters1979

Parchment wrote: »

Dont paint all feminists with the same brush. I consider myself a feminist but i am shocked and appalled at the organisers allowing her to speak. She does not speak for me as a feminist.

Yeah,this is the bit I don't get. Considering the size of the country and the prison system, surely there were better people who could have spoken instead. Someone given a harsh sentence for a lesser crime or even wrongly convicted. Was there no one better?

They've undermined their message asking this woman monster to speak at their protest.

jameorahiely

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It seems to me that the real special snowflakes around the world are the man-childs who cannot stand the thought that society doesnt think they deserve better treatment than women. which is ironic given their love of the term.

Ignoring your sweeping sexist generalisation for a moment, Reverse snowflakism doesn't exist.

ohnonotgmail

jameorahiely wrote: »

Ignoring your sweeping sexist generalisation for a moment, Reverse snowflakism doesn't exist.

nothing reverse about. It is just little man-childs bitching about women going on a walk.

jameorahiely

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

nothing reverse about. It is just little man-childs bitching about women going on a walk.

Little man childs

:pac:


There not bitching about womem going for a walk, have you read the thread at all,?

givyjoe

jameorahiely wrote: »

Little man childs

:pac:


There not bitching about womem going for a walk, have you read the thread at all,?

Too busy frothing at the mouth while furiously smashing his keyboard to actually read it.