Immigrant smuggling ring run by Aer Lingus employees at Dublin airport

keeponhurling

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0123/847034-immigration-scam/

Interesting story, up to 100 illegal immigrants a year may have been smuggled through Dublin Airport through this scam.

Are these people criminals, or just selfless humanitarians helping people form less stable regions of the world?

I feel it's the former, but they will no doubt get a lot of sympathy in some quarters.

Atlantic Dawn

If they were getting cash for it they will get little sympathy. I wonder how Aer Lingus staff could have facilitated it unless they were smuggling them direct off the plane and then out through some unsecured part of the airport.

ED E

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If they were getting cash for it they will get little sympathy. I wonder how Aer Lingus staff could have facilitated it unless they were smuggling them direct off the plane and then out through some unsecured part of the airport.

If their airport credentials give them access to the right doors they could just quietly pull them out of the arrivals corridor before they get to GNIB.

snubbleste

Does not surprise me one bit.

screamer

If true, it's disgraceful, and worse...... so much for airport security.......

KungPao

Of course they are criminals. I expect 10 years + in prison for these people.

gandalf

I highly doubt this was done with any humanitarian motivation at all.

MilesMorales1

I'm sure they were doing it for 'Humanitarian reasons' Whilst also getting a few quid for it. Scumbags, hope they get the book thrown at them.

Atlantic Dawn

They could have been letting anyone in, terrorists, suicide bombers etc, this is the worst possible time for this to come to light with Brexit negotiations, all those that illegally entered would have a free run to the UK with the common travel area. The Brits will think we are idiots.

snubbleste

What about the other airports and ports?
Are GNIB investigating those?

seamus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They could have been letting anyone in, terrorists, suicide bombers etc, this is the worst possible time for this to come to light with Brexit negotiations, all those that illegally entered would have a free run to the UK with the common travel area. The Brits will think we are idiots.

I expect this is going on in airports all over the EU, though we would definitely be a good bit more lax about our checks on employees.

More likely to be taking in Chinese and Russians through this kind of back door than islamic extremists, IMHO. The latter tend to be more about radicalising settled people than trying to inject fundamentalists directly.

Anyway, nothing humanitarian about what these guys were doing. Even if they weren't on the take, you can guarantee a load of other people were.

red ears

keeponhurling wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0123/847034-immigration-scam/

Interesting story, up to 100 illegal immigrants a year may have been smuggled through Dublin Airport through this scam.

Are these people criminals, or just selfless humanitarians helping people form less stable regions of the world?

I feel it's the former, but they will no doubt get a lot of sympathy in some quarters.

They are criminals and they are guilty of gross misconduct in their jobs.

Atlantic Dawn

The journal says those arrested were aged 28, 56 and 61...

A garda statement said that gardaí attached to the Garda Immigration Bureau (GNIB) assisted by the Garda Special Detective Unit (SDU) have arrested three men (aged 61, 56 and 28) in relation to immigration offences.

http://www.thejournal.ie/smuggling-allegations-dublin-airport-arrests-3200500-Jan2017/

The_Valeyard

If these people are guilty of said suspected smuggling ring. This is a serious breach of our borders and of our security. It also undermines confidence in the staff who are tasked with ensuring only those with appropriate documentation gain access to our nation.

jimgoose

They are endangering the State and everyone in it by bypassing necessary and appropriate border controls, presumably for money. They should be on porridge for a very long time indeed.

homerjay2005

for an operation this big to go undetected for years, there has to be more than 3 people involved.

this could and should, become a national scandle.

Atlantic Dawn

Is there still a crime of treason against the state that could be used against them?

meeeeh

Of course they are crmunals but they dont run anything, they are small fish bribed to let some people through.

jimgoose

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is there still a crime of treason against the state that could be used against them?

Yes indeed. The Treason Act, 1939 speaks thus:

"Treason shall consist only in levying war against the State, or assisting any State or person or inciting or conspiring with any person to levy war against the State, or attempting by force of arms or other violent means to overthrow the organs of government established by this Constitution, or taking part or being concerned in or inciting or conspiring with any person to make or to take part or be concerned in any such attempt"

The punishment is life imprisonment with parole in not less than 40 years, presumably meaning that in this case "life" means life. It was a capital offence until 1990, more's the pity.

Must be folks on the departure flight side in cahoots too. Passport control etc.

Very organised..... these lads would be making a fortune while neglecting their actual duties.

Pay peanuts....

jimgoose

Augeo wrote: »

Must be folks on the departure flight side in cahoots too. Passport control etc.

Very organised..... these lads would be making a fortune while neglecting their actual duties.

Pay peanuts....

I personally think that treason should be treated as a military matter, with courts-martial closely followed by firing squad. That'd get their attention.

meeeeh

jimgoose wrote: »

I personally think that treason should be treated as a military matter, with courts-martial closely followed by firing squad. That'd get their attention.

Yeah let's shoot small fry it's not like international smugglers will have trouble finding new people to cooperate.

Also no point mistaking greed for being underpaid.

6541

I can't understand why anyone would want to come and live in this damp hole.

jimgoose

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah let's shoot small fry it's not like international smugglers will have trouble finding new people to cooperate.

Also no point mistaking greed for being underpaid.

There's no point in mistaking treason for being underpaid, either. And after a few of them had appeared in front of a very pissed-off Commandant at a court-martial the gloss of cooperating with these "international smugglers" would begin to dim considerably.

homerjay2005

Augeo wrote: »

Pay peanuts....

ha ha ha, these lads would be heavily unionised and very very well paid, especially if they are there for years.

they spotted a gap, were offered serious extra cash probably and took it.

meeeeh

jimgoose wrote: »

There's no point in mistaking treason for being underpaid, either.

Hysterical much?

Atlantic Dawn

6541 wrote: »

I can't understand why anyone would want to come and live in this damp hole.

Free access to the UK.

jimgoose

meeeeh wrote: »

Hysterical much?

Not at all. And yourself?

meeeeh

jimgoose wrote: »

Not at all. And yourself?

Right so we agree this has nothing to do with treason.

jimgoose

meeeeh wrote: »

Right so we agree this has nothing to do with treason.

We agree no such thing.

Mr.Micro

Yet another scam, probably the tip of the iceberg.

ChikiChiki

6541 wrote: »

I can't understand why anyone would want to come and live in this damp hole.

Ireland may be a damp hole but it's a wealthy damp hole with one of the highest standards of living in the world.

If your lucky in your next life you might end up being born in South Sudan.

FrKurtFahrt

I wonder is there any record of those people who were smuggled in. I'd be interested to know what became of them - have they settled, have they gone to UK or elsewhere, have they 'come to the attention of the authorities', are they on Social Welfare. I presume if any are found, they'll be deported.

homerjay2005

6541 wrote: »

I can't understand why anyone would want to come and live in this damp hole.

eh? we are one of most attractive countries in the world to move to


no war,peaceful neutral country.
excellent human rights.
one of the fastest growing economies in the world - jobs for anybody who wants to work.
very mild climate (no extreme like alot of countries).
black market for jobs.
generous social welfare system.
and above all else, we are seen as a very soft touch for immigration laws and control.

uck51js9zml2yt

I assume they were on passenger manifests and then just vanished having boarded the plane.

That it took years to identify is a bigger issue. What were immigration/ airlines doing?

homerjay2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ha ha ha, these lads would be heavily unionised and very very well paid, especially if they are there for years.

they spotted a gap, were offered serious extra cash probably and took it.

Apologies...... presumed they were paid peanuts as most folk I see at Dublin airport with aer lingus uniforms are monkeys.

snubbleste

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies...... presumed they were paid peanuts as most folk I see at Dublin airport with aer lingus uniforms are monkeys.

Macaque or Gibbon, caller?

Riddle101

56 and 61? well that's their pensions cut I would imagine.

snubbleste

Does former AerLingus union steward and open borders fanatic Clare Daly expressed a view on this yet?

seamus

jimgoose wrote: »

I personally think that treason should be treated as a military matter, with courts-martial closely followed by firing squad. That'd get their attention.

Indeed, treason should only be something that members of the defence forces can be charged with.

Ordinary citizens do not pledge allegiance to the state, therefore to charge them with treason is unjust.

ohnonotgmail

Marina Loud Busboy wrote: »

I assume they were on passenger manifests and then just vanished having boarded the plane.

That it took years to identify is a bigger issue. What were immigration/ airlines doing?

They can just use their access card to get them landside and avoid immigration. they fact they are on a passenger manifest wouldnt help. GNIB dont check that all arriving passengers pass through immigration.

donkeykong5

Augeo wrote: »

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ha ha ha, these lads would be heavily unionised and very very well paid, especially if they are there for years.

they spotted a gap, were offered serious extra cash probably and took it.

Apologies...... presumed they were paid peanuts as most folk I see at Dublin airport with aer lingus uniforms are monkeys.

Prefer the monkeys to the robots who wear the blue uniforms any day.

AnGaelach

keeponhurling wrote: »

Are these people criminals, or just selfless humanitarians helping people form less stable regions of the world?

Human smuggling is a crime, so yes. They're criminals.

AnGaelach

seamus wrote: »

Indeed, treason should only be something that members of the defence forces can be charged with.

Ordinary citizens do not pledge allegiance to the state, therefore to charge them with treason is unjust.

Treason is betraying one's nation. You don't have to be in the military to betray your country...

Id also be concerned about what they can smuggle into the airport aswell.

snubbleste

Imagine if someone had suggested a month ago that "our national airline"* were facilitating illegal immigration...they'd be dismissed as making up the impossible and being casually racist.
*it is viewed as such, even if it is not

lawred2

keeponhurling wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0123/847034-immigration-scam/

Interesting story, up to 100 illegal immigrants a year may have been smuggled through Dublin Airport through this scam.

Are these people criminals, or just selfless humanitarians helping people form less stable regions of the world?

I feel it's the former, but they will no doubt get a lot of sympathy in some quarters.

Did they break laws?

Atlantic Dawn

Using catering vehicles according to The Independent...

The employees are suspected of using catering vehicles to move illegal immigrants directly from planes that landed in Dublin Airport to a car-park outside the facility.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/aer-lingus-employees-suspected-of-using-catering-vehicles-to-smuggle-immigrants-into-ireland-35390164.html

gifted

Can't believe that our Bruce from customs didn't see this....

AlekSmart

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Id also be concerned about what they can smuggle into the airport aswell.

I'm expecting Statements in the House about this...particularly the Catering Service angle.....;)

TallGlass

Well the Brits won't be happy with this. They already said that our ports are a joke for security, wait till they hear about this.