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Renting: TV Licence

  • 17-01-2017 7:22am
    #1
    Rainman16
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 566 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys, recently we got the TV licence letter. In the post. And as 1 of 4 tennents in the house
    I am expected to pay €40 of the bill. My issue is that there is a TV in the house, but I don't watch it at all, I use a monitor in my own room for gaming only.

    Should I refuse to pay the €40, or should I pay it?


Comments

  • #2
    jooksavage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭jooksavage


    For the sake of maintaining a relationship with your housemates, pay it. Our last housemate pissed us off with the exact same thing. I assume you don't quibble about the electricity bill if you've used less than 25% of the billed units.


  • #3
    c1ans7even
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭c1ans7even


    as far as I know any TV/ Monitor equipment capable of receiving a television signal is subject to it so would still apply for you technically.

    I do see your point though.


  • #4
    Rainman16
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Rainman16


    jooksavage wrote: »
    For the sake of maintaining a relationship with your housemates, pay it. Our last housemate pissed us off with the exact same thing. I assume you don't quibble about the electricity bill if you've used less than 25% of the billed units.

    Yeah you're probably right, It just seems unfair to me, certain house mates watch it every evening for hours. I don't at all, Yet I'm expected to pay the same.


  • #5
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Rainman16 wrote: »
    Yeah you're probably right, It just seems unfair to me, certain house mates watch it every evening for hours. I don't at all, Yet I'm expected to pay the same.

    The house has a TV you have the use of a TV, you live in the house ergo yes your partially responsible. The house doesn't legally end and your bedroom door suck it up.


  • #6
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Rainman16 wrote: »
    Hey guys, recently we got the TV licence letter. In the post. And as 1 of 4 tennents in the house
    I am expected to pay €40 of the bill. My issue is that there is a TV in the house, but I don't watch it at all, I use a monitor in my own room for gaming only.

    Should I refuse to pay the €40, or should I pay it?

    €40 is €3.33 a month or €0.11 a cent a day.

    You really want to argue over 10c a day because you're too busy gaming to socialise with your housemates.


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  • #7
    Lux23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Its not worth the hassle so I would just pay.


  • #8
    Chakra Khan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Chakra Khan


    Yes you should pay it.  It woudln't be acceptable to you  if one of your housemates went away for a month and refused to pay any gas or electricity for that time.


  • #9
    srsly78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    c1ans7even wrote: »
    as far as I know any TV/ Monitor equipment capable of receiving a television signal is subject to it so would still apply for you technically.

    I do see your point though.

    Monitor is missing the tv receiving component and thus not subject to licence.

    As to who is specifically liable for the charge, the poor sucker that answers the door and gives their name will be one hauled off to court.


  • #10
    Bandana boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Just pay the bill , your getting more than you fair share of the Broadband , it all levels out in the end .


  • #11
    irelandrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Monitor is missing the tv receiving component and thus not subject to licence.

    As to who is specifically liable for the charge, the poor sucker that answers the door and gives their name will be one hauled off to court.

    Do you game in your room using more electricity while your housemates share a room watching TV.


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  • #12
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Monitor is missing the tv receiving component and thus not subject to licence.

    As to who is specifically liable for the charge, the poor sucker that answers the door and gives their name will be one hauled off to court.

    There is an automatic assumption that any computer is capable of receiving a tv signal- and it doesn't have to an over-the-air signal- you could be watching tv over the internet etc. The Minister stood up in the Dáil and specifically made this point. If you have a computer you are liable. If you want to dispute it- fine, but the default position is you are liable.


  • #13
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The_Conductor wrote: »
    There is an automatic assumption that any computer is capable of receiving a tv signal- and it doesn't have to an over-the-air signal- you could be watching tv over the internet etc. The Minister stood up in the Dáil and specifically made this point. If you have a computer you are liable. If you want to dispute it- fine, but the default position is you are liable.

    The minister was pat rabbite and he is a liar though proven on record.

    Sure isn't that what you say.....


    There is nothing in legislation to allow for billing of a pc or laptop presently.


  • #14
    worded
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭worded


    The_Conductor wrote: »
    There is an automatic assumption that any computer is capable of receiving a tv signal- and it doesn't have to an over-the-air signal- you could be watching tv over the internet etc. The Minister stood up in the Dáil and specifically made this point. If you have a computer you are liable. If you want to dispute it- fine, but the default position is you are liable.



    Are you saying that if you have a laptop and no TV you are Liable to have a TV licence ? The way the govt would like it (RTE / the family in it) and reality are two diff things. Anyone ever in court with this Laptop or PC only scenario ?


  • #15
    silent_spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    The_Conductor wrote: »
    There is an automatic assumption that any computer is capable of receiving a tv signal- and it doesn't have to an over-the-air signal- you could be watching tv over the internet etc. The Minister stood up in the Dáil and specifically made this point. If you have a computer you are liable. If you want to dispute it- fine, but the default position is you are liable.

    That's not in legislation - it was discussed, but didn't go any further. If you do not have a TV or other device capable of receiving a signal you do not need a TV licence. Up until recently I did not have a TV, and I would have to ring the TV licence office to confirm this.


  • #16
    srsly78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Ringing them is no good, you have to fill out a statutory declaration (saying no tv present) and post it to them.


  • #17
    silent_spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Ringing them is no good, you have to fill out a statutory declaration (saying no tv present) and post it to them.

    Not true. The form may have changed in the last year, but there is an option on it to ring the office, where they record it somewhere. I probably sent in the declaration for new addresses, but the phone call sufficed at other times.


  • #18
    srsly78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    I rang them up only a few months ago and they insisted on sending me out the forms to sign. Also this has to be done every year!


  • #19
    silent_spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    srsly78 wrote: »
    I rang them up only a few months ago and they insisted on sending me out the forms to sign. Also this has to be done every year!

    Must be a new thing. I had no TV from 2006-2015, and I would send the signed form for new addresses, and they were happy with just a phone call when they sent out the annual form after that.


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