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Train from China to Barking, Essex due Wednesday

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  • #2
    sporty56
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    Same wagons all the way or containers needing to be transferred because of gauge differences ?


  • #3
    tabbey
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    sporty56 wrote: »
    Same wagons all the way or containers needing to be transferred because of gauge differences ?

    Change of gauge means change of train. Not as seamless as headline implies.


  • #4
    MGWR
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    tabbey wrote: »
    Change of gauge means change of train. Not as seamless as headline implies.
    No, not always. Russia and China have been doing this for a long time, and there are bogie-changing stations en route.


  • #5
    GM228
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    MGWR wrote: »
    tabbey wrote: »
    Change of gauge means change of train. Not as seamless as headline implies.

    No, not always. Russia and China have been doing this for a long time, and there are bogie-changing stations en route.

    From WNXX:-

    It set out in China at the beginning of the month and while the consist has travelled half way round the world, due to the slightly wider loading gauge in Russia, 5' or 1520mm, the actual train hasn't and the load will have been trans-shipped on the China/Russia border then again on leaving Russia/entering Europe.

    Just the containers did the entire journey, but not the actual train.


  • #6
    tabbey
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    GM228 wrote: »
    From WNXX:-
    Just the containers did the entire journey, but not the actual train.

    This evening BBC news admitted the change of train, although AlJazeera did not.

    In the context of crossing Asia and Europe, transferring 34 containers at two points would be quicker than the time IR spend reversing at Kildare. You merely line up the two trains side by side under a gantry crane.


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  • #7
    MGWR
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    GM228 wrote: »
    From WNXX:
    It set out in China at the beginning of the month and while the consist has travelled half way round the world, due to the slightly wider loading gauge in Russia, 5' or 1520mm, the actual train hasn't and the load will have been trans-shipped on the China/Russia border then again on leaving Russia/entering Europe
    Just the containers did the entire journey, but not the actual train.
    You have a link? And what precisely do they mean by "trans-shipped"?


  • #8
    MGWR
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    Just for the sake of the thread, a train (albeit passenger) changing bogies between Russian and standard gauge at Erlian, China en route to/from Mongolia. Perhaps not the best way for container trains, but feasible for other kinds of loads.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_DQql97jQ


  • #9
    GM228
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    MGWR wrote: »
    You have a link? And what precisely do they mean by "trans-shipped"?

    http://www.wnxx.com/news/index.htm

    WNXX is subscription so you may not be able to view it.

    Trans-shipped means to transfer the containers from one train to another.


  • #10
    Peregrinus
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    MGWR wrote: »
    No, not always. Russia and China have been doing this for a long time, and there are bogie-changing stations en route.
    I don't know if they ever do it for goods trains, though. They use special cars with easily removable/replaceable bogies, and the cost of that might not be justified in the saving of time - particularly for a journey of 16 days, as in this case.


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