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Car crash.

  • 09-01-2017 02:29AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    Today I was reversing my jeep out of a car space. I hit a car behind be that was behind me.
    It was wrongly parked. No markings on ground tho. He was in my blind spot. The boot lid was caved in and glass broke.

    There are no cameras looking anywhere near the spots. I left a note in the window apologising for the accident. Name and number and also telling them I wish not to go through insurance as I am only a student and cannot aford the insurance increase. I left as I had to drop my friend to work. I got a phone call from the owner.

    He asked for my insurance details I told him the situation and that I'd pay for all damages with cash asap. He was OK with that. Get a phone call from the gardi a few hours later. They gave out that I left the seen of an accident. They say i may be getting a fine for leaving.

    I explained I left a note. Was willing to pay in full fir damages and was in contact with him and I was unable to stay. I said I could of driven away with no one knowing it was me but I did the right thing.

    The Gardai want my insurance and license and reg number within 10 days and i may be getting a fine for leaving the seen. OK so now here's the problem. The Jeep isn't taxed. Not taxed for a while. Not able to be taxed for a while. Not tax compliant. Will the Gardai be able to tell this from the reg? Can't afford them take the vehicle.

    Second problem. Looking at the damage. I'm not 100% sure I did it. I did hit the car but the tow bar is a foot lower then the impact mark.

    No way to prove it was actually me. No cameras. I was just trying to do the right thing.
    I dont want to get screwed over on this. I don't want to get in fines and pay damages because I was being kind and owning up.
    I should have just left. Why get punished for doing the right thing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,488 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Normally Garda will ask for tax, insurance, nct/cvt to be produced at a Garda station within 10 days after an accident is reported.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    This is the problem with people these days
    You left your details which is good and correct behaviour
    You are getting rewarded by the other party by being reported to the guards for absolutely no reason as you have proved you are playing ball by leaving a note that didn't simply read as follows
    "Hi I drove into your car and there is a man looking at me so I'm leaving you a note so he doesn't write down my reg, sorry"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    I thought gardai don't generally get involved unless there is personal injury.

    Fair play for leaving your number, how did the gardai get embroiled. (confuses)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Yet if you are in a crash on a backroad guards call it a civil manner and have zero interest.

    Also reverse into parking spaces newbie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    They rang me saying that I left the seen of an accident. I was ment to stay. It's an offence. I could have easily driven away. To be honest I thought about it because I'm short on money but I didn't because that was wrong. Yet he still wrong the Gardai and now I'm screwed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I got a phone call from the owner. He asked for my insurance details I told him the situation and that I'd pay for all damages with cash asap. He was OK with that.
    The Gardai want my insurance and license and reg number within 10 days
    How can the Gardai fine you without your reg? He got his mate to ring you to get the insurance details and your reg. If the "Garda" rings you again, ask for his badge number and his station number so you can ring him back. Otherwise I call bullsh|t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    the_syco wrote:
    How can the Gardai fine you without your reg? He got his mate to ring you to get the insurance details and your reg.

    Definitely the gardia. I didn't give him anything. I want to sort out my options first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,440 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Definitely the gardia. I didn't give him anything. I want to sort out my options first.

    You don't have options. You need to get your tax in order and present within 10 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Definitely the gardia. I didn't give him anything. I want to sort out my options first.

    It couldn't have been a garda, unless they knew your reg number. Did you give your reg number on the note you left? If not, it's your man playing mind games with you to get information from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    They rang me saying that I left the seen of an accident. I was ment to stay. It's an offence. I could have easily driven away. To be honest I thought about it because I'm short on money but I didn't because that was wrong. Yet he still wrong the Gardai and now I'm screwed.

    That's unfortunate tbf, usually the **** things happen the best of people. See it everyday.
    If you had driven off, chances are you wouldn't have this to deal with now. You may only get a 80 yoyo fine for tax depending on the "officer" you're dealing with. How long is the jeep out of tax? Is it declared off the road? If so, then it can serious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    endacl wrote:
    You don't have options. You need to get your tax in order and present within 10 days.


    I can't get it taxed. Not tax compliant till maybe end of the month. Will they check tax. Are they not just checking to see if the vehicle is mine and insured. Which it is. Well it's my dad's and I'm a name Driver. But fully insured and licenced with doe. Jusy no tax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    shocksy wrote: »
    It couldn't have been a garda, unless they knew your reg number. Did you give your reg number on the note you left? If not, it's your man playing mind games with you to get information from you.

    Well perceived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    What ya mean it's not tax compliant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,814 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Definitely the gardia. I didn't give him anything. I want to sort out my options first.

    I don't believe you committed an offence. You hit the car. There were no injuries, the owner was not around so you left your details which the owner did find at the scene.
    I'm open to correction but I don't believe there is a requirement to report to gardai in that case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    shocksy wrote:
    It couldn't have been a garda, unless they knew your reg number. Did you give your reg number on the note you left? If not, it's your man playing mind games with you to get information from you.


    It's came up as the correct area code. The Gardai introduced himself. He got my number from the other Driver. He said I have to drop my details in to any Gardai station within 10 days. But they don't know my reg or my full name. Just my phone number. How can they find me if I don't do it... or is that a bad idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    If there is a chance it's not true that it's the guards that's a different story but really it's ya probably a gaurd who knows the other person

    What's the rule about driving off after causing minor damage like
    That ? I mean if you call the guards will they come ? Do I have to wait an indefinite amount of time till someone returns to their car ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600


    Today I was reversing my jeep out of a car space. I hit a car behind be that was behind me. It was wrongly parked. No markings on ground tho. He was in my blind spot. The boot lid was caved in and glass broke. There are no cameras looking anywhere near the spots. I left a note in the window apologising for the accident. Name and number and also telling them I wish not to go through insurance as I am only a student and cannot aford the insurance increase. I left as I had to drop my friend to work. I got a phone call from the owner. He asked for my insurance details I told him the situation and that I'd pay for all damages with cash asap. He was OK with that. Get a phone call from the gardi a few hours later. They gave out that I left the seen of an accident. They say i may be getting a fine for leaving. I explained I left a note. Was willing to pay in full fir damages and was in contact with him and I was unable to stay. I said I could of driven away with no one knowing it was me but I did the right thing. The Gardai want my insurance and license and reg number within 10 days and i may be getting a fine for leaving the seen. OK so now here's the problem. The Jeep isn't taxed. Not taxed for a while. Not able to be taxed for a while. Not tax compliant. Will the Gardai be able to tell this from the reg? Can't afford them take the vehicle. Second problem. Looking at the damage.

    "Will the Gardai be able to tell this from the reg?"

    No idea, but I sincerely hope so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1961/act/24/section/106/enacted/en/html

    I'd have a nose over that, if your been accused of leaving the scene of an accident it's quite serious to be honest, but in this case it's pretty obvious why you left, you can't wait around all day long, as for the tax, no idea.

    I'd imagine as the Garda didn't witness you driving the car a judge might strike it out if you wanted to contest it in court.

    BTW, sorry to piss on your parade but I would notify your insurance company about it. Garda involved, third party seems like he is playing by the book but still wants his cash in hand and might give you the run around regards quotes.

    Not worth the hassle IMO, let the insurance just sort it out at this stage and produce what you have to the Garda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    kay 9 wrote:
    What ya mean it's not tax compliant?


    Jeeps in fathers name/ company's name. The company owes the tax man money so is unable to get a pin to tax the Jeep. Or something along those lines


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    It's came up as the correct area code. The Gardai introduced himself. He got my number from the other Driver. He said I have to drop my details in to any Gardai station within 10 days. But they don't know my reg or my full name. Just my phone number. How can they find me if I don't do it... or is that a bad idea.
    bad idea they can ring people you have rung from that number and simply ask who's number it is


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    TallGlass wrote:
    BTW, sorry to piss on your parade but I would notify your insurance company about it. Garda involved, third party seems like he is playing by the book but still wants his cash in hand and might give you the run around regards quotes.


    Oh I'm not giving him a cent. I'll get the car to my mechanic. The car needs a new boot door. That's all. I'll get it. Get the mechanic to fit it and I'll pay him directly. I'm not getting screwed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600


    mickdw wrote: »
    I don't believe you committed an offence. You hit the car. There were no injuries, the owner was not around so you left your details which the owner did find at the scene.
    I'm open to correction but I don't believe there is a requirement to report to gardai in that case?

    My understanding is that this is correct. But I have little sympathy for a 'student' swanning around in a 'non-tax compliant' Jeep that apparently cannot be made tax compliant (I wonder why!) and crashing into parked cars.

    When I was at college, we walked or cycled or bussed it to our lectures. And if we were running late, or couldn't afford the bus fare, or didn't have a bike, we bloody well ran to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    Tigger wrote:
    bad idea they can ring people you have rung from that number and simply ask who's number it is

    How can they? That not breach of privacy or some thing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,440 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Oh I'm not giving him a cent. I'll get the car to my mechanic. The car needs a new boot door. That's all. I'll get it. Get the mechanic to fit it and I'll pay him directly. I'm not getting screwed.

    Not your call, though, is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Jeeps in fathers name/ company's name. The company owes the tax man money so is unable to get a pin to tax the Jeep. Or something along those lines

    But revenue is separate to motor tax, shouldn't have anything to do with revenue. Is the jeep on UK plates and awaiting vrt payment or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    My understanding is that this is correct. But I have little sympathy for a 'student' swanning around in a 'non-tax compliant' Jeep that apparently cannot be made tax compliant (I wonder why!) and crashing into parked cars.

    When I was at college, we walked or cycled or bussed it to our lectures. And if we were running late, or couldn't afford the bus fare, or didn't have a bike, we bloody well ran to them.


    Well I am a student. I saved up to buy the banger of a jeep as I need it for work. My last car was a 90. Got too old to insure. Jeep not taxed as company isn't up to date with books. Not because of money. I walk to college nearly every day. The reason I was in the shop was to bring an injured friend who can't walk that far. I crashed because it was an accident. Accidents happen. I don't need sympathy. Looking for educated advise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Definitely the gardia. I didn't give him anything. I want to sort out my options first.
    Either you hope that you don't get tracked down, or you give the dude your insurance number.

    I wonder do you get jail time if the Gardai have to track you down?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Oh I'm not giving him a cent. I'll get the car to my mechanic. The car needs a new boot door. That's all. I'll get it. Get the mechanic to fit it and I'll pay him directly. I'm not getting screwed.

    That would work with me but I have a feeling this guy is gonna be trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Student2312


    kay 9 wrote:
    But revenue is separate to motor tax, shouldn't have anything to do with revenue. Is the jeep on UK plates and awaiting vrt payment or something?

    Yeah. Good pount. I'll looking into it fully tomorrow. That's all I know. It's not uk plates or waiting payment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    the_syco wrote: »
    Either you hope that you don't get tracked down, or you give the dude your insurance number.

    I wonder do you get jail time if the Gardai have to track you down?

    You hardly get jail time for beating the face off a RTÉ journalist in the middle
    Of the street let alone failure to produce and changing your number


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