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Einhorn is a man!

  • 07-01-2017 4:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭


    Ace Ventura came out just under 25 years ago, and was a film I enjoyed greatly at the time.

    How appropriate would this scene be in the modern age? Have we gone too PC, or is this type of scene that on mature reflection we should feel uncomfortable with?

    https://youtu.be/PKqAQxveb3g


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    And your opinion is????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    And your opinion is????

    Personally, I think it is way over the top, I would be severely uncomfortable seeing that play out that way in one of the best films in popular culture (as it was at the time)

    Though others may feel differently. Amazing, in only 25 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    LACES OUT!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Mr. FoggPatches


    I'm uncomfortable at how sh*t the film was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I'm uncomfortable at how sh*t the film was.

    Ah stop, it was a great film.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Even at the time I couldn't stand his manic over the top humour.

    It was rubbish then, so rubbish now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭Stigura


    I couldn't stand his manic over the top humour.

    Got to agree with this. I've never seen one of his films. Any trailer was more than enough to stop me thinking I'd be able to stomach it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    myshirt wrote: »
    Einhorn is a man!

    your gun is digging into my hip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    "What would you know about pressure?"

    "Well, I have kissed a man."

    Great movie. Even watch it with the kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, they were all ****e.

    Jim Carey is as funny as a wart.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Omackeral wrote: »
    LACES OUT!!!

    THEY WERE IN!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, they were all ****e.

    Jim Carey is as funny as a wart.

    Dumb and Dumber is a great movie.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Ace Ventura to be no-platformed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, they were all ****e.

    Jim Carey is as funny as a wart.

    Each to their own but Man on the Moon was fantastic.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Each to their own but Man on the Moon was fantastic.

    Aye, he played Andy Kaufman to a tee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Can we all agree that this was the funniest scene?

    https://youtu.be/NKpXDlcHmas?t=11s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    myshirt wrote: »
    Ace Ventura came out just under 25 years ago, and was a film I enjoyed greatly at the time.

    How appropriate would this scene be in the modern age? Have we gone too PC, or is this type of scene that on mature reflection we should feel uncomfortable with?

    https://youtu.be/PKqAQxveb3g

    Sign of the times that this is actually a relevant point.

    Very funny scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'll always remember the scene with Cannibal Corpse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gw80


    I dont see anything wrong with the scene,
    Straight man descovers he has made out with another man by mistake, feels dirty afterwards, whats wrong with that,
    If your trying to say its some sort of slur on trans gender people you would be wrong,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    gw80 wrote: »
    I dont see anything wrong with the scene,
    Straight man descovers he has made out with another man by mistake, feels dirty afterwards, whats wrong with that,
    If your trying to say its some sort of slur on trans gender people you would be wrong,

    I suppose the reaction is OTT to the point of homophobic, judged by the lens of today.
    Did anyone see it when it came out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I saw it when it came out but barely remember anything about it. I take it Einhorn was a woman he had been intimate with (or maybe just kissed) but then suspected was a transvestite or a transsexual? If that's the case then the acting is a bit over the top but honestly a lot of men would find the idea they had sex with a man disgusting. Or should straight men go around having sex with other men just to prove they're not homophobic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    eeguy wrote: »
    Can we all agree that this was the funniest scene?

    https://youtu.be/NKpXDlcHmas?t=11s

    I don't get it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Hollis Hurlbut


    Even at the time I couldn't stand his manic over the top humour.

    It was rubbish then, so rubbish now.


    Generation thing. Most people my age loved it. You're probably older.

    Thought he was great on In Living Colour. Especially as Vanilla Ice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    What's the problem? I just watched it and thought it was hilarious. If I f*cked a man by accident I'd probably be puking and very disturbed for a long time, the way he portrayed that in a comedic way was very funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, they were all ****e.

    Jim Carey is as funny as a wart.

    His bank balance would prove otherwise :pac:

    But yeah I thought that scene was amazingly funny when it came out and I still do. Him jumping in the showing crying always cracks me up. But wasn't it a piss take of the crying game too? (IIRC)

    But if it was released today I think it would get a backlash. Which it shouldn't. It's just a joke.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Yeah the music playing is the theme tune from The Crying Game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber they were all ****e.

    I know opinions can't be wrong but this one is. Dumb and Dumber is untouchable. Best buddy movie ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's a funny scene. Although I prefer the second movie.



    Anyway I did not get where I am today without knowing Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels are comedy gold together in the first Dumb and Dumber movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I hope he dies of gonorrhea and rots in hell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Ace Ventura was the first film I saw in the cinema I was about 8 at the time and didn't get any of it.

    The second film is really enjoyable and that highway linked earlier is priceless.

    Dumb and Dumber is simply an all time classic I wont stand for any criticism of it.

    This scene is priceless:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    Llllllllike a glove!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Kick his ass seabass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I never wanted to like Jim Carrey movies but I have to admit that I found Me, Myself & Irene, The Cable Guy, Dumb and Dumber and both Ace Ventura movies hilarious when I first watched them .......... and still do!

    That scene made me laugh, it's funny ......... pc nonsense sh*te rarely has any place in comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gw80 wrote: »
    I dont see anything wrong with the scene,
    Straight man descovers he has made out with another man by mistake, feels dirty afterwards, whats wrong with that,
    If your trying to say its some sort of slur on trans gender people you would be wrong,
    eeguy wrote: »
    I suppose the reaction is OTT to the point of homophobic, judged by the lens of today.
    Did anyone see it when it came out?

    I'd say his reaction to discovering he'd been deceived by a man "identifying" as a female is under-stated .......... I'd lose my sh*t if it was me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I saw it when it came out but barely remember anything about it. I take it Einhorn was a woman he had been intimate with (or maybe just kissed) but then suspected was a transvestite or a transsexual? If that's the case then the acting is a bit over the top but honestly a lot of men would find the idea they had sex with a man disgusting. Or should straight men go around having sex with other men just to prove they're not homophobic?

    Is there a Poll? It's a definite NO from me!


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    The most disturbing thing about the scene in the OP is that he turns on the water and leaps right in. He didn't hang around turning the cold tap by 3 degrees and the hot tap by 10 degrees to get the perfect temperature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    Plunger in the face was the best bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Most straight men find the thought of a physical interaction with another man as gut wrenchingly disgusting. That is not homophobic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Most straight men find the thought of a physical interaction with another man as gut wrenchingly disgusting. That is not homophobic.

    I'd be curious to see your stats on that. As a straight man I don't particular find a physical interaction between two men much of anything let alone gut wrenhcingly disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I'd be curious to see your stats on that. As a straight man I don't particular find a physical interaction between two men much of anything let alone gut wrenhcingly disgusting.

    You don't get out often do you :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    You don't get out often do you :pac:

    I get out plenty. Just don't find myself surrounded by all these people going on about how the thoughts of homosexuality turns their stomachs.

    Maybe we move in different circles...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    I'd be curious to see your stats on that. As a straight man I don't particular find a physical interaction between two men much of anything let alone gut wrenhcingly disgusting.

    No stats. Every man I know feels that way though.

    The point I made was that to be part of an interaction with another man would be disgusting. As a straight man, you wouldn't mind it would you? V unusual if so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭somefeen


    OP

    I see your Einhorn is a man scene and I raise you...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClAiUdThFgw

    No way in hell would that **** fly today.

    Transphobia, homophobia, ableism if they did some skit about the black cop you'd have a full house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Ace Ventura was the first film I saw in the cinema I was about 8 at the time and didn't get any of it.

    The second film is really enjoyable and that highway linked earlier is priceless.

    Dumb and Dumber is simply an all time classic I wont stand for any criticism of it.

    This scene is priceless:

    What's even funnier is the sequel and the same actor is still there. Dumb and dumber is genius acting, cant look at samsonite case without thinking of the film


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Excuse me, can I ass you a few questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Every man you know has at some point expressed to you their gut wrenching disgust at the thought of a physical interaction with another man ? I find that very unusual.

    You'll have to define this physical interaction for starters. Lets go the whole hog and say you're talking anal sex. I have no physical attraction to men. So to say "I wouldn't mind" makes no sense. I'd mind as much as I'd mind having an interaction with anyone I'm not attracted to. But the thoughts of it doesn't make me physically ill, same as the thoughts of having anal sex with a woman I'm not attracted to (although it would be down to the individual, if you're talking rotten teeth, nasty BO, hairy arse then it's something else). But in general it's whatever happened to end up in that situation I'd be concerned about.

    Question for you. Given you find sex with a man makes you and every man you know physically ill. Does the same apply to any and all women who you're not attracted to ? Does that make you equally as sick ? Or is there something about men in particular that you find disgusting beyond just attraction and interest?

    Btw I didn't say I'd be curious about stats to say you're wrong. I'd just genuinely be curious to know how many men actually felt that way considering it seems very odd to me personally.

    Bum sex. No way. Just no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    if you look like sean young in her prime I'd do you with a heart and a half regardless of your gender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,168 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Bambi wrote: »
    if you look like sean young in her prime I'd do you with a heart and a half regardless of your gender

    Always liked No Way Out, the Kevin Costner film because of her short appearance in it. (film is crap overwise imo)


    Saw Ace Ventura in Banbridge, I was the only one laughing in whole cinema of about 30 people, played God Save the Queen at the end of the film which was quaint.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Always liked No Way Out, the Kevin Costner film because of her short appearance in it. (film is crap overwise imo)


    Saw Ace Ventura in Banbridge, I was the only one laughing in whole cinema of about 30 people, played God Save the Queen at the end of the film which was quaint.

    Disagree. Thats a terrific film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    If you want to see something that you'd never get away with now



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