Extending current kitchen, new boiler or no?

Jivin Turkey

I am extending my current kitchen and the current plans involve the relocation of the existing boiler. I bought the house 3 years ago and I'd say the existing boiler is at least 5 years old if not more and I doubt was a high end model to begin with.

Given I need to incur the labour costs to install it in its new location, would it be worth my while buying a new boiler? Are there any grants available for this?

Any recommendations on makes/models and an idea of cost from cheap to high end?

Sleeper12

If you post the make and model some of the gas guys will be able to give better advice

Jivin Turkey

Thanks for the reply. It's a Ferolli 25 C Optimax.

jeepers101

Jivin Turkey wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. It's a Ferolli 25 C Optimax.

Yep. Replace it.

K.Flyer

jeepers101 wrote: »

Yep. Replace it.

But not for another Ferroli... :pac:

Jivin Turkey

Thanks folks!

Jivin Turkey

I'm still undecided on this. I'm getting quoted c. €2k for a new Ideal boiler and it seems a lot given the Ferroli (for all the slagging it gets) runs fine. If it had busted I'd have no problem shelling out, but I find it hard to believe that a new boiler will cover itself in less than 10 years. And I've plenty of other costs to cover now with this build!

Separately, I'm going to replumb part of my existing downstiars (c. 80 sqm), I've been quoted €1.5k. Does this sound reasonable? I'm replacing gun barrel with "pressure tested piping".

Figures are ex VAT I'm assuming.

All responses appreciated as always.

K.Flyer

Im just finishing off a similar job to what you described with a standard efficiency boiler which is in perfect condition.
The boiler is being moved to its new position and being kept for now. The gas pipe has been upgraded and all the heating pipework arranged to facilitate an easy change over to the new boiler when this one packs in, which should be at least 10 years from now.
Get your plumber to set things up for an easy change over later, including the gas line.

Jivin Turkey

Thanks for that. I think I'd already made up my mind but feel better now about it

Do you have a view on the replumbing?

K.Flyer

Jivin Turkey wrote: »

Thanks for that. I think I'd already made up my mind but feel better now about it

Do you have a view on the replumbing?

Really depends on what is involved, lifting carpet, floorboards, chasing concrete?
Are rads /rad valves included and what pipework is being used, copper, multilayer or qualpex?

Jivin Turkey

Floors are already lifted, they were suspended timber. It was only once we'd done that did we notice the gun barrel and decide to remove it.

Not doing anything to the existing rads or valves and the builder has said he'll use "pre-insulated plastic piping with no joints and all connections crimped on".

Tom44

If old boiler is been relocated anyway in the original plans and price, then the extra cost of a new boiler should be there about the purchase price of the boiler.
Definitely not 2k. :eek:

Grant available if your changing your heating to a zoned system, + additional grant if fitting new boiler too.
See www.seai.ie
No grant for new boiler by itself.




Carbon credits. ???

K.Flyer

Jivin Turkey wrote: »

Floors are already lifted, they were suspended timber. It was only once we'd done that did we notice the gun barrel and decide to remove it.

Not doing anything to the existing rads or valves and the builder has said he'll use "pre-insulated plastic piping with no joints and all connections crimped on".

Just ask is it multilayer or qualpex, as both have crimp fittings.
It sounds like he could be using a manifold system which does incur extra pipework and equipment, so might not be too far off the mark depending on pipe runs / number of rads etc and type of manifold being used.

Also an additional 2k for a new boiler is way over the top.
IF he is moving pipework to the new location already and quoted for same, the difference to fit a new boiler will just be the cost of the boiler itself and power flushing the radiators.
Get a mag filter fitted while you are at it.