Applegreen fuel quality

evlgmaojr27ypu

So this morning I ended up filling up petrol at an Applegreen petrol station and on the way back home the check engine light came up on my BMW 1 Series. So brought it to the local mechanic to have it diagnosed and he suggested it was the quality of fuel that caused the light to come on.. I have read that some people have had quality issues before, while others swear that it is the best fuel they have bought..

Any one else had a similar issue, is it worth complaining with any recourse ??

Still have half tank of that nasty fuel in the car :mad: :mad:

shietpilot

How can a mechanic use a diagnostic trouble code to gauge the quality of fuel is beyond me. There's something wrong with your car, not the fuel. If it was bad fuel Applegreen would be full of people with broken down cars and recovery trucks.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

All the fuel in all the stations comes from the same/similar refineries. There's no good or bad fuel unless local garages are tampering with it.

evlgmaojr27ypu

shietpilot wrote: »

How can a mechanic use a diagnostic trouble code to gauge the quality of fuel is beyond me. There's something wrong with your car, not the fuel. If it was bad fuel Applegreen would be full of people with broken down cars and recovery trucks.

I think he was talking by experience. But the diagnostic report showed nothing apart from front interior light fault and passenger side seat occupancy detector. Which was all cleared. Never seen or heard of this before, hence I decided to ask here

shietpilot

Paislee Tasty Tomboy wrote: »

I think he was talking by experience. But the diagnostic report showed nothing apart from front interior light fault and passenger side seat occupancy detector. Which was all cleared. Never seen or heard of this before, hence I decided to ask here

I think you need a new mechanic

DuffleBag

I've had diesel issues with an applegreen in cork. Mechanic emptied the filter thing or the tank or whateever and 1/4 of the diesel was water. Needless to say i dont go there anymore

pilly

I don't know, I used to have an older Nissan and it had bad trouble running out of power, I was working in a particular brand of petrol station at the time and the chap who owned that told me that Topaz was the best brand, to fill the car to the top in a Topaz and see how I got on. Solved the problem! Might have just been luck but other people have told me since that they get much longer out a tank of Topaz so I just stick with them now.

corsav6

DuffleBag wrote: »

I've had diesel issues with an applegreen in cork. Mechanic emptied the filter thing or the tank or whateever and 1/4 of the diesel was water. Needless to say i dont go there anymore

He emptied water from your fuel filter, very common on diesel vehicles and something that should be checked at each service.

evlgmaojr27ypu

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

All the fuel in all the stations comes from the same/similar refineries. There's no good or bad fuel unless local garages are tampering with it.

The fuel is the same, but I think each of them adds different additives and also depends on how often they clean their storage tanks to make sure they are not contaminated.. But I am not expert, so can't be sure

evlgmaojr27ypu

pilly wrote: »

I don't know, I used to have an older Nissan and it had bad trouble running out of power, I was working in a particular brand of petrol station at the time and the chap who owned that told me that Topaz was the best brand, to fill the car to the top in a Topaz and see how I got on. Solved the problem! Might have just been luck but other people have told me since that they get much longer out a tank of Topaz so I just stick with them now.

I guess I will have to wait and see.. I plan to burn the fuel I have in the tank in the coming week and then fill with Topaz (my regular destination) and see the check engine light reoccurs.

lookinghere

Paislee Tasty Tomboy wrote: »

So this morning I ended up filling up petrol at an Applegreen petrol station and on the way back home the check engine light came up on my BMW 1 Series. So brought it to the local mechanic to have it diagnosed and he suggested it was the quality of fuel that caused the light to come on.. I have read that some people have had quality issues before, while others swear that it is the best fuel they have bought..

Any one else had a similar issue, is it worth complaining with any recourse ??

Still have half tank of that nasty fuel in the car :mad: :mad:

If he suggested it was fuel quality why didn't he drain it out ?

evlgmaojr27ypu

lookinghere wrote: »

If he suggested it was fuel quality why didn't he drain it out ?

Well he said there was no point in draining it out, as it is only 20 litters that was put in. But I am tempted to siphon it out myself in the morning

shietpilot

Paislee Tasty Tomboy wrote: »

Well he said there was no point in draining it out, as it is only 20 litters that was put in. But I am tempted to siphon it out myself in the morning

I'll take them, thanks

flutered

i started using applegreen desiel last sept, not a bother with it, as it is 10 cent cheaper than my local maxol this put the idea in my head, no regrets so far

lookinghere

Paislee Tasty Tomboy wrote: »

Well he said there was no point in draining it out, as it is only 20 litters that was put in. But I am tempted to siphon it out myself in the morning

I think you need to change mechanic. Doesn't matter how much dirty fuel is it. Should be drained

evlgmaojr27ypu

shietpilot wrote: »

I'll take them, thanks

It is a deal, as long as you siphon it (don't prefer the taste of Petrol in the morning myself ) and you take it from north Dublin or else it will go to the lawn mower

anthony4335

Fuel can get tainted for a lot of reasons, the station brand rarely ever is the reason. Either dodgy supply, fuel stretching , or contamination. I once filled a car from a garage I was not used to, and I noticed a serious drop in mpg, from 29mpg to 20mpg, checked the car over, could not find anything out of the ordinary. Refilled the tank at my usual garage and all went back to normal.

fran38

Paislee Tasty Tomboy wrote: »

It is a deal, as long as you siphon it (don't prefer the taste of Petrol in the morning myself ) and you take it from north Dublin or else it will go to the lawn mower

It was the 20 litters as in "litter of pups" he was on about i think? :pac::pac::pac:

Jimmy Garlic

flutered wrote: »

i started using applegreen desiel last sept, not a bother with it, as it is 10 cent cheaper than my local maxol this put the idea in my head, no regrets so far

I bet you are saving nothing at all. Every time I put applegreen diesel into my car there was a noticeable drop in mpg compared to Texaco which I usually use. It smells different too. sniff a nozzle in Texaco then sniff a nozzle in Applegreen. There is a difference.

EIREDriver

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I bet you are saving nothing at all. Every time I put applegreen diesel into my car there was a noticeable drop in mpg compared to Texaco which I usually use. It smells different too. sniff a nozzle in Texaco then sniff a nozzle in Applegreen. There is a difference.

I'd say you get some funny looks every time you go to the pumps Jimmy Garlic.

"Oh no, it's the petrol sniffer again."

anthony4335

anthony4335 wrote: »

I once filled a car from a garage I was not used to, and I noticed a serious drop in mpg, from 29mpg to 20mpg, checked the car over, could not find anything out of the ordinary. Refilled the tank at my usual garage and all went back to normal.

Did you check your foot for fluid build up ?:D

DuffleBag

corsav6 wrote: »

He emptied water from your fuel filter, very common on diesel vehicles and something that should be checked at each service.

Car was 6 months old. 161. Should there be that much water in it?

biko

It's extremely unlikely Applegreen petrol is to blame for your issue OP.
Since code did not point to fuel system I'd say it's a coincidence.

Special Circumstances

EIREDriver wrote: »

I'd say you get some funny looks every time you go to the pumps Jimmy Garlic.

"Oh no, it's the petrol sniffer again."

Smells like victory. Petrol, that is. Not diesel.

The Backwards Man

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I bet you are saving nothing at all. Every time I put applegreen diesel into my car there was a noticeable drop in mpg compared to Texaco which I usually use. It smells different too. sniff a nozzle in Texaco then sniff a nozzle in Applegreen. There is a difference.

If you normally get 45mpg, you'd need to be losing over 5mpg for the ten cent a litre to be less economical.

shietpilot

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

It smells different too. sniff a nozzle in Texaco then sniff a nozzle in Applegreen. There is a difference.

That's a very scientific test!

Jimmy Garlic

shietpilot wrote: »

That's a very scientific test!

The human nose is incredibly sensitive. Think about sommeliers and all the information they get from sniffing a glass of wine. I'm a bit like that except I sniff diesel.

shietpilot

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The human nose is incredibly sensitive. Think about sommeliers and all the information they get from sniffing a glass of wine. I'm a bit like that except I sniff diesel.

Jesus if it's that good you may as well get into the engine bay and replace the engine.

evlgmaojr27ypu

biko wrote: »

It's extremely unlikely Applegreen petrol is to blame for your issue OP.
Since code did not point to fuel system I'd say it's a coincidence.

Thanks All for your reply.. I did about 40 kmh of back road driving today with the Apple Green fuel that was in the tank and the error didn't show up. so I guess I will have to wait and see over the next couple of days.

Also the petrol station I went to yesterday, was closed for over 4 years and was only recently renovated and re-opened (about 3 - 4 weeks ago) as an Apple Green garage, so hopefully it was just some minor contamination that the engine didn't like.. But time will tell

The Guvnor

I heard of issues a few years back from two separate people.
Later I was told of something else which could explain it.
However nowadays their trucks are monitored so they know where they are at all times so I would say the likelihood of it being dodgy diesel is very slim.

alpha13

pilly wrote: »

I don't know, I used to have an older Nissan and it had bad trouble running out of power, I was working in a particular brand of petrol station at the time and the chap who owned that told me that Topaz was the best brand, to fill the car to the top in a Topaz and see how I got on. Solved the problem! Might have just been luck but other people have told me since that they get much longer out a tank of Topaz so I just stick with them now.

in dublin here and have the COMPLETE opposite experience with them..and not just 1 but 5 different topaz garages...fuel was going no where near what it should or does from other garage..also.. i used to be in the trade and have seen numerous cars mainly diesel being F**d up by topaz...
i was told by a person who knows that topaz garages are just like mcdonalds...not actually topaz owned but franchises... so some use the proper topaz fuel and some mix it up and get cheaper.... you wont know until it is too late and the damage done..... but that is just MY experience personally..

p.s my car also a nissan

Cape Clear

alpha13 wrote: »

in dublin here and have the COMPLETE opposite experience with them..and not just 1 but 5 different topaz garages...fuel was going no where near what it should or does from other garage..also.. i used to be in the trade and have seen numerous cars mainly diesel being F**d up by topaz...
i was told by a person who knows that topaz garages are just like mcdonalds...not actually topaz owned but franchises... so some use the proper topaz fuel and some mix it up and get cheaper.... you wont know until it is too late and the damage done..... but that is just MY experience personally..

p.s my car also a nissan

Is that not the case with most service stations?

alpha13

Cape Clear wrote: »

Is that not the case with most service stations?

apparently not... from what i hear maxol and applegreen own AND supply their own garages.. as for the rest i dont know which are owned by fuel company and which are franchicees...
but i do know i wont use topaz for fuel... so much so that i was given an allowance in work of fuel...when i found out it was topaz fuel card i turned it down... would rather go without the fuel than have that in my car causing god knows what kind of problem to the engine or components in the engine...:cool:

pa990

alpha13 wrote: »

apparently not... from what i hear maxol and applegreen own AND supply their own garages.. as for the rest i dont know which are owned by fuel company and which are franchicees...
but i do know i wont use topaz for fuel... so much so that i was given an allowance in work of fuel...when i found out it was topaz fuel card i turned it down... would rather go without the fuel than have that in my car causing god knows what kind of problem to the engine or components in the engine...:cool:

Plenty of Maxols are privately owned.
Lots of Topaz are privately owned
.... likewise for TOP, GreataGas, etc etc

And I'm pretty sure Applegreen do franchise's

Every petrol brand can be framchised.