Warranty car .. insignia

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 7:53pm #1

I have had a Vauxhall insignia 8 months , I was driving home on the motorway on nye and the bottom end went in the car.

Would this be to big a job to do in a 09 insignia worth 7/8 grand..or would he be better off going threw his warranty insurance if there is such a thing

punisher5112 · 02-01-2017 7:54pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

I have had a Vauxhall insignia 8 months , I was driving home on the motorway on nye and the bottom end went in the car.

Would this be to big a job to do in a 09 insignia worth 7/8 grand..or would he be better off going threw his warranty insurance if there is such a thing

In what way is there any warranty and insurance won't cover that.

Stheno · 02-01-2017 7:55pm

What do you mean by warranty insurance? Do you just have a regular insurance or a second warranty one from the likes of mapfre?

Or are you thinking the dealer who sold it to you should cover it?

CalamariFritti · 02-01-2017 7:58pm

Sorry I never heard that term before, 'the bottom end went'. What does that mean? Did the rear of the car come off? Are we talking about the exhaust?

punisher5112 · 02-01-2017 7:59pm

I guess the engine sh1t itself.

Stheno · 02-01-2017 8:05pm

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Sorry I never heard that term before, 'the bottom end went'. What does that mean? Did the rear of the car come off? Are we talking about the exhaust?

I always thought the crankshat was gone and/or complete engine rebuild needed?

bazz26 · 02-01-2017 8:06pm

Your insurance policy will not cover mechanical failure if that is what you mean OP.

If you are referring to a third party warranty you got with the car when you bought it then you may be able to claim off it depending on the terms of the warranty and if the damage is covered under it.

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:11pm

I have 12 months warranty,the euguine **** itself I'm just wondering is it even worth him rebuilding the engine

Stheno · 02-01-2017 8:12pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

I have 12 months warranty,the euguine **** itself I'm just wondering is it even worth him rebuilding the engiine

Best to go talk to the dealer so

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:14pm

I'm waiting on him to come back to me he is getting it checked out,

Does anyone know roughly how much an engine rebuild would cost

Stheno · 02-01-2017 8:16pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

I'm waiting on him to come back to me he is getting it checked out,

Does anyone know roughly how much an engine rebuild would cost

Is he a main dealer or indy?

Isambard · 02-01-2017 8:17pm

if you have a warranty it won't cost you anything.

pablo128 · 02-01-2017 8:17pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

I'm waiting on him to come back to me he is getting it checked out,

Does anyone know roughly how much an engine rebuild would cost

If it ran out of oil, it will need a replacement engine and turbo.

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:17pm

Stheno wrote: »

What do you mean by warranty insurance? Do you just have a regular insurance or a second warranty one from the likes of mapfre?

Or are you thinking the dealer who sold it to you should cover it?

Ya he have me12 months warranty , I'm just thinking instead of him paying for labour and a new engine would he be better off giving me a replacement car.

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:19pm

He is a dealer a small dealer around 30/40 cars ..

bazz26 · 02-01-2017 8:20pm

Unless it's a main dealer (even they wouldn't) it's very unlikely he will be getting you a new engine. Most likely he will source a reconditioned or second hand one at a fraction of the price of a new one. I'd insist on a reconditioned one as you have no idea what state a second hand one is in.

I'd also be very surprised if you would get another car off them 8 months later.

Stheno · 02-01-2017 8:20pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

Ya he have me12 months warranty , I'm just thinking instead of him paying for labour and a new engine would he be better off giving me a replacement car.

Id say not

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:22pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Unless it's a main dealer it's very unlikely he will be getting you a new engine. Most likely he will source a reconditioned or second hand one at a fraction of the price of a new one. I'd insist on a reconditioned one as you have no idea what state a second hand one is in.

I'd also be very surprised if you would get another car off them 8 months later.

I'm hoping it won't be worth doing I'm hoping it will cost to much cause I don't want a car with a second hand enguine..

I heard around €€3/4 grand all in to rebuild

Silane · 02-01-2017 8:23pm

How would it be covered by warranty if the engine ran out of oil? Surely that's negligence, no?

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:25pm

Silane wrote: »

How would it be covered by warranty if the engine ran out of oil? Surely that's negligence, no?

It didn't run out of oil, oil water coolant everything was in it, I only have it serviced 1month ago

Silane · 02-01-2017 8:26pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

It didn't run out of oil, oil water coolant everything was in it, I only have it serviced 1month ago

My mistake, I misread a previous post, I though somebody said it ran out of oil and needs a new engine and turbo, wasn't you.

Silane · 02-01-2017 8:31pm

What causes a sudden bottom end failure? And happens when if fails? Knocking and engine cuts out?

pablo128 · 02-01-2017 8:36pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

I'm waiting on him to come back to me he is getting it checked out,

Does anyone know roughly how much an engine rebuild would cost

I just re-read this. You know it's possible that it could be the dual mass flywheel. It can give similar noises to a bottom end knocking when it goes.

166man · 02-01-2017 8:36pm

How many miles on it OP? Did it have a verified history?

Bottom ends don't just go for any old reason on a car.

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:37pm

pablo128 wrote: »

I just re-read this. You know it's possible that it could be the dual mass flywheel. It can give similar noises to a bottom end knocking when it goes.

The enguine is not even ticking over now

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:43pm

166man wrote: »

How many miles on it OP? Did it have a verified history?

Bottom ends don't just go for any old reason on a car.

97 miles . No just a car check history..that's what I said to the dealer.

The AA mechanic said it was the bottom end, but I will have a answer off the dealer tomorrow..

166man · 02-01-2017 8:48pm

7 year old English import....no service history....97k miles...and a bottom end gone?

You sure the miles are genuine OP?

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:50pm

166man wrote: »

7 year old English import....no service history....97k miles...and a bottom end gone?

You sure the miles are genuine OP

I'm not sure . I don't know much about cars but makes sense if the engine just stopped that they might not have been genuine

punisher5112 · 02-01-2017 8:53pm

If you look at log book put UK reg into mot check uk.

pablo128 · 02-01-2017 8:54pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

166man wrote: »

7 year old English import....no service history....97k miles...and a bottom end gone?

You sure the miles are genuine OP

I'm not sure . I don't know much about cars but makes sense if the engine just stopped that they might not have been genuine

Get the uk reg number(it will be on the vehicle registration cert) and enter it into the M.O.T. history check. (google it.) That will tell you the mileage at previous M.O.T.s in the uk.

Macca9999 · 02-01-2017 8:56pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Macca9999 wrote: »

Get the uk reg number(it will be on the vehicle registration cert) and enter it into the M.O.T. history check. (google it.) That will tell you the mileage at previous M.O.T.s in the uk.

Will do

punisher5112 · 02-01-2017 11:36pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

pablo128 wrote: »

It doesn't give mileage at last MOT, just the vehicle details and the mot expiry date.

Look up mot history there are 2 different links.

Also it may never have had one all depends on whether it was up north or in UK also.

pred racer · 03-01-2017 6:49am

Macca9999 wrote: »

I'm hoping it won't be worth doing I'm hoping it will cost to much cause I don't want a car with a second hand enguine..

I heard around €€3/4 grand all in to rebuild

Any car you get unless new will have a second hand engine

Macca9999 · 07-01-2017 7:47pm

My dealer got an asser to strip done the car he had it for a week. I gave him my service history invoices serviced twice in 22km..

He has come back today with his conclusion that the oil filter failed, and that it was a genuine Vauxhall oil filter, that he is washing his hands of it that it's on me. Or I can sue my mechanic..

The filter that he says failed was a hann filter hu 7004 oem approved ..

road_high · 07-01-2017 7:55pm

Surprise surprise!
How does an oil filter fail?

Macca9999 · 07-01-2017 7:56pm

road_high wrote: »

Surprise surprise!
How does an oil filter fail?

I don't know I have an asser ready to view the car and inspect the oil filter this week..

OldmanMondeo · 07-01-2017 7:57pm

If a filter is at fault, you will need your mechanic to put a claim with his supplier, who will then pass it on to the importer all the way back to the filter manufacture. It is a long winded way to go, but you need to get the full report from the assesor and keep all records.

Macca9999 · 07-01-2017 8:00pm

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

If a filter is at fault, you will need your mechanic to put a claim with his supplier, who will then pass it on to the importer all the way back to the filter manufacture. It is a long winded way to go, but you need to get the full report from the assesor and keep all records.

Ya I will, the asser I have going looking at the car will do his report and look for proof that the oil filter failed..

My dealer is only trying to get out of the warranty plain and simple he is a scumbag

pablo128 · 07-01-2017 8:02pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

Ya I will, the asser I have going looking at the car will do his report and look for proof that the oil filter failed..

My dealer is only trying to get out of the warranty plain and simple he is a scumbag

Did you ever do the mot history check in the end?

OldmanMondeo · 07-01-2017 8:03pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

My dealer is only trying to get out of the warranty plain and simple he is a scumbag

He might not be. I presume you mean a Mann filter, if the filter is at fault and could well be, why would he cover it.

Make sure you keep all parts for your claim.

Macca9999 · 07-01-2017 8:18pm

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

He might not be. I presume you mean a Mann filter, if the filter is at fault and could well be, why would he cover it.

Make sure you keep all parts for your claim.

It was only changed 4 weeks ago, maybe it was. It the way it panned out i doubt it.

OldmanMondeo · 07-01-2017 8:26pm

Macca9999 wrote: »

It was only changed 4 weeks ago, maybe it was. It the way it panned out i doubt it.

Just thinking, the Insignia has a long life filter in them, 20 or 30k intervals. I think they are a paper insert filter. I have heard of these failing, but only when they where long over due a change,1 oil filter in a Megane and a diesel fuel filter in a Mondeo, filters fell to sunder and started to get sucked into the engine. Surely oil pressure would have dropped and that caused the bottom end to fail. You would have gotten a warning light on the dash then.

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