Dealership plate surrounds and decals

Sue Pa Key Pa · 02-01-2017 9:01am #1

Deedsie wrote: »

I'd be happy enough if he lost the dealership stickers and reg plate surround. I'd ban those bastards if I could.

The 1st thing I ever do is remove all trace of the garage from my new car. We agreed a price and I paid it. If you want me to advertise your business, let's talk............

SBPhoto · 02-01-2017 11:11am

dfeo wrote: »

We seriously need to remove the year from the plate. People are flocking in their droves to get their brand bastarding new fūĉkïñĝ car of cereal box spec for chape road tax and so the neighbours can see.

What a enlighting statement

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 12:29pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

The 1st thing I ever do is remove all trace of the garage from my new car. We agreed a price and I paid it. If you want me to advertise your business, let's talk............

As a salesman, the first thing that would attract my attention to a trade in would be no dealer signage, car would bear for closer inspection.

The J Stands for Jay · 02-01-2017 12:47pm

TanFlash wrote: »

As a salesman, the first thing that would attract my attention to a trade in would be no dealer signage, car would bear for closer inspection.

Eh?

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 12:55pm

Questions would be raised about source of car . I would be wary of why no stickers, maybe accident damage and change of reg plates was needed. A few more searching questions.
Also I'd think guy would be a pedantic arsehole, but I wouldn't let him know this obviously! I'd be as sweet as a pie, as per usual.
For the thousands of cars I've sold I've only had one request to take off signage, and he was a proper dick.

Avatar MIA · 02-01-2017 12:57pm

Deedsie wrote: »

Could you elaborate on that a little? Don't really understand your point. They look dreadful on a car.

I got my Alfa in Grandons Cork and they had a sticker on the back windscreen and one each of the back passengers windows. Those came off very quickly. The back windscreen one (it was right in the view line) was tougher to remove, but after a few months dealing with them I'd have used a blowtorch to get it off if I had to.

anewme · 02-01-2017 12:58pm

Are the dealers details not also usually on the plates?

Micky 32 · 02-01-2017 12:58pm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

I got my Alfa in Grandons Cork and they had a sticker on the back windscreen and one each of the back passengers windows. Those came off very quickly. The back windscreen one (it was right in the view line) was tougher to remove, but after a few months dealing with them I'd have used a blowtorch to get it off if I had to.

I took off the back rear screen sticker becasue it was affecting the function of the auto dimming mirror lol

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:03pm

anewme wrote:

Are the dealers details not also usually on the plates?

Some are, depends on plate machine. We have metal plates with plastic surrounds.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:04pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

I got my Alfa in Grandons Cork and they had a sticker on the back windscreen and one each of the back passengers windows. Those came off very quickly. The back windscreen one (it was right in the view line) was tougher to remove, but after a few months dealing with them I'd have used a blowtorch to get it off if I had to.

That's a valid reason, nothing worse than a big sticker obstructing the view

xabi · 02-01-2017 1:06pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Questions would be raised about source of car . I would be wary of why no stickers, maybe accident damage and change of reg plates was needed. A few more searching questions.
Also I'd think guy would be a pedantic arsehole, but I wouldn't let him know this obviously! I'd be as sweet as a pie, as per usual.
For the thousands of cars I've sold I've only had one request to take off signage, and he was a proper dick.

What dealer is this? Just so that I can avoid

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:06pm

Deedsie wrote:

You would hope as a professional salesman you would be checking those things anyway. What do you just assume it is grand if a sticker is on the back window? Very professional

Deedsie wrote:

Pedantic arsehole for not wanting a manky sticker on the back window or an advertisement logo on a reg plate?

Small discreet sticker on back window is ok.
Sure why don't you take off the manufacturers logo off the car then? Manky logos.

bazz26 · 02-01-2017 1:07pm

anewme wrote: »

Are the dealers details not also usually on the plates?

Most put them on the number plate surrounds which can be removed easily. Worst case number plates with dealer logos can be replaced with plain ones cheaply enough.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:07pm

xabi wrote:

What dealer is this? Just so that I can avoid

I couldn't possibly divulge, because then you would know my true colours!

Avatar MIA · 02-01-2017 1:08pm

TanFlash wrote: »

I couldn't possibly divulge, because then you would know my true colours!

You mean it's not Tan? :eek:

If you can't trust a car salesman who can you trust?

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:12pm

The whole point of boards is that you can be your true self!

xabi · 02-01-2017 1:13pm

TanFlash wrote: »

I couldn't possibly divulge, because then you would know my true colours!

Nissan?

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:40pm

That's one of them!

Vote 4 Pedro · 02-01-2017 1:49pm

Deedsie wrote: »

In my experience, motorists who remove stickers and advertising surrounds actually are much more diligent in the up keep of their car. Actual pride in their property.

This is very true as I am one of those who do, I keep my car very clean inside and out, keep the services on time etc. really hate any sort of stickers on my car but I keep the dealership number plate surrounds as long as there not to big or loud. That's enough advertising on my car thank you but that's not the main reason I remove them - I just hate stickers of any kind on my cars.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 1:58pm

Yeah but the excuse of taking off dealer signage because someone doesn't want to advertise them is being picky.
I don't mind trashing out a deal with someone and someone getting a deal, in fact I enjoy it. Once the sale is over I have regular contact with customers, collecting cars for service if people live near me or at their work, loan cars etc. But the guy who thinks that the dealer is constantly out to get them is on the back foot straight away. The least they could do is leave the dealer surrounds on the reg. It works both ways.

colm_mcm · 02-01-2017 2:47pm

Meh. I wouldn't leave the estate agent signs up on my house.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 2:52pm

colm_mcm wrote:

Meh. I wouldn't leave the estate agent signs up on my house.

Do you leave the Nike logo on your tracksuit?

xabi · 02-01-2017 2:54pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Do you leave the Nike logo on your tracksuit?

Yeah, but you take the lifestyle sports sticker off.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 2:58pm

OK, you got me there

boardsuser1 · 02-01-2017 3:07pm

Every single car I get, all the dealer logos are removed, I've gone as far as buying new number plates if the dealer name couldn't be removed from the original plate.

Bought a car in a well known Cobh based dealer in 2014, I removed all the links to his dealership.

In 2016 I traded the car back into his dealership and done the exact same with the new purchase.

In 2018 I will not be returning to him or forever more.

Nesser · 02-01-2017 3:07pm

xabi wrote: »

Yeah, but you take the lifestyle sports sticker off.

Excellent comparison. If you bought an item of clothing or anything else you would leave the branding but take sellers details off. Why would you need to advertise where you bought something.

Bemuses me to see 15 yr old cars that still have the dealer sticker on. It's the first thing I take off.

boardsuser1 · 02-01-2017 3:12pm

Nesser wrote: »

Excellent comparison. If you bought an item of clothing or anything else you would leave the branding but take sellers details off. Why would you need to advertise where you bought something.

Bemuses me to see 15 yr old cars that still have the dealer sticker on. It's the first thing I take off.

I still see cars from the 80's with them, the early 80's at that.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:16pm

KC161 wrote:

Every single car I get, all the dealer logos are removed, I've gone as far as buying new number plates if the dealer name couldn't be removed from the original plate.

KC161 wrote:

Bought a car in a well known Cobh based dealer in 2014, I removed all the links to his dealership.

Why would you buy from a dealer who you had so much disdain for?

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:17pm

Nesser wrote:

Excellent comparison. If you bought an item of clothing or anything else you would leave the branding but take sellers details off. Why would you need to advertise where you bought something.

Nesser wrote:

Bemuses me to see 15 yr old cars that still have the dealer sticker on. It's the first thing I take off.

You are in a very very small minority

boardsuser1 · 02-01-2017 3:33pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Why would you buy from a dealer who you had so much disdain for?

It was only after issues with the second purchase.

But my point is I traded in the car bought in 2014 from them and despite having no dealership branding of any kind I got more than I was expecting for the trade in.

Sue Pa Key Pa · 02-01-2017 3:35pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Questions would be raised about source of car . I would be wary of why no stickers, maybe accident damage and change of reg plates was needed. A few more searching questions.
Also I'd think guy would be a pedantic arsehole, but I wouldn't let him know this obviously! I'd be as sweet as a pie, as per usual.
For the thousands of cars I've sold I've only had one request to take off signage, and he was a proper dick.

Are you serious? Do you think your business is extra special over others? If you can't tell if there is vehicle damage without the help of hideous stickers, well maybe you are in the wrong business.

Do you have a Harvey Norman sticker on the headboard of your bed? Or a D.I.D. Electrical sticker on your cooker?

As for my situation, the dealer offered me a price, I asked him to throw in a few mats and we would have a deal. I paid him immediately, shook his hand, drove home and removed all crap from the plates and windows. If I wasn't able to do that myself, I would have (politely) asked him to remove it

What makes it worse, I was probably PAYING HIM for all that crap in the 'delivery related charges'

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:41pm

KC161 wrote:

But my point is I traded in the car bought in 2014 from them and despite having no dealership branding of any kind I got more than I was expecting for the trade in.

KC161 wrote:

It was only after issues with the second purchase.

KC161 wrote:

But my point is I traded in the car bought in 2014 from them and despite having no dealership branding of any kind I got more than I was expecting for the trade in.

KC161 wrote:

It was only after issues with the second purchase.

You drove a hard bargain then, well done, he obviously knew the car. They obviously let you down on the customer service side of things.
But seriously , taking off dealer surrounds from a reg is rare. In fact if I imported a car I would seek out the local dealer brand and put surrounds on the car.

morritty · 02-01-2017 3:42pm

If I was to buy a brand new car, I would leave plate surrounds on if it had the cars logo, but any stickers or second hand dealer surrounds are taken off the second i get home.

Most people wouldnt care, but this is a motors forum after all where most pof us have an interest in cars and really dont want to drive around with a sticker stating "Joe Blogs Super Duper Car Sales, Main Street, Blah Blah Blah"*

*I know it doesnt apply to every single poster here.

Sue Pa Key Pa · 02-01-2017 3:47pm

TanFlash wrote: »

In fact if I imported a car I would seek out the local dealer brand and put surrounds on the car.

In order to deceive an inexperienced buyer???

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:49pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

Are you serious? Do you think your business is extra special over others? If you can't tell if there is vehicle damage without the help of hideous stickers, well maybe you are in the wrong business.

You take it into account while initially looking at the car, it would raise a question.
For instance if their was different make of plate front and back , I would take it into account whilst doing my searching questions on the trade in.
What we are talking about here is people taking off dealer signage because they think the dealer is getting the last pound of flesh off the customer.
Why don't you look at building a relationship with the business you are purchasing from instead of thinking they are doing you over all the time? It's not all about rock bottom prices, it's about value and customer service.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:50pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

In order to deceive an inexperienced buyer???

Just looks better

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:51pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

In order to deceive an inexperienced buyer???

And a Padre Pio sticker for the windscreen

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:52pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

In order to deceive an inexperienced buyer???

If I ever was buying for myself, not to sell on

morritty · 02-01-2017 3:54pm

TanFlash wrote: »

You take it into account while initially looking at the car, it would raise a question.
For instance if their was different make of plate front and back , I would take it into account whilst doing my searching questions on the trade in.
What we are talking about here is people taking off dealer signage because they think the dealer is getting the last pound of flesh off the customer.
Why don't you look at building a relationship with the business you are purchasing from instead of thinking they are doing you over all the time? It's not all about rock bottom prices, it's about value and customer service.

I traded my last car after changing the front plate to a Japanese sized plate and left the standard sized one on the rear. Because thats the sizes that fit each mount. Would that raise questions? Would you think I had crashed the car? Btw I also removed the previous dealer stickers, and I got more money than expected for the car.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:54pm

morritty wrote:

Most people wouldnt care, but this is a motors forum after all where most pof us have an interest in cars and really dont want to drive around with a sticker stating "Joe Blogs Super Duper Car Sales, Main Street, Blah Blah Blah"*

And the purpose of putting a main dealer franchise surround on would be to show people it's NOT bought from "Joe Blogs Super Duper Car Sales, Main Street, Blah Blah Blah"!!

boardsuser1 · 02-01-2017 3:55pm

TanFlash wrote: »

You drove a hard bargain then, well done, he obviously knew the car. They obviously let you down on the customer service side of things.
But seriously , taking off dealer surrounds from a reg is rare. In fact if I imported a car I would seek out the local dealer brand and put surrounds on the car.

I had the receipt from the first purchase and produced it. Signed by the very man himself who sold me the second car.

The money is better off in my pocket than a dealers, he still made his profit on the car I traded in, he added an extra €2000 onto the price he gave me for the trade in.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:59pm

morritty wrote:

I traded my last car after changing the front plate to a Japanese sized plate and left the standard sized one on the rear. Because thats the sizes that fit each mount. Would that raise questions? Would you think I had crashed the car? Btw I also removed the previous dealer stickers, and I got more money than expected for the car.

Jesus Christ, you'd hardly say it's crashed from just the reg plate. I would take it into account on my full check over. I would ask the question indirectly about the plate, like "they're nice plates, where sell them?" And then go on from there. People do lie about cars and the history of them, it's up to the salesman as the professional to leave no stone unturned, I'm sure the next owner would be grateful.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 3:59pm

Exactly, everyone is happy

morritty · 02-01-2017 4:04pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Jesus Christ, you'd hardly say it's crashed from just the reg plate. I would take it into account on my full check over. I would ask the question indirectly about the plate, like "they're nice plates, where sell them?" And then go on from there. People do lie about cars and the history of them, it's up to the salesman as the professional to leave no stone unturned, I'm sure the next owner would be grateful.

Im just saying, if changing a plate or removing a sticker is cause for an extra special inspection, why wouldnt one of the questions a dealer asks themselves is has this been crashed?

That's just the vibe you're giving off as a salesman.

Toyotafanboi · 02-01-2017 4:08pm

It's like revealing the magicians secrets, but instead of magic, it's number plates and not as interesting.

Havn't seen any 171's, but I havn't left the house in a fortnight. I'm sure i'll get more than my fix tomorrow.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 4:14pm

morritty wrote:

Im just saying, if changing a plate or removing a sticker is cause for an extra special inspection, why wouldnt one of the questions a dealer asks themselves is has this been crashed?

morritty wrote:

That's just the vibe you're giving off as a salesman.

I would ask some probing questions (subtly) around the reg plate change to see what answer the person gave me, in your case you have a valid answer. I'd still be checking the car for crash damage. It's like detective work, there is two purchases going on, we are buying also.
On use flip side there are some "Joe Blogs Super Duper Car Sales, Main Street, Blah Blah Blah" dealers that if I saw their surrounds on a car it can tell you straight away a fair bit about the car.

Sue Pa Key Pa · 02-01-2017 4:19pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Why don't you look at building a relationship with the business you are purchasing from instead of thinking they are doing you over all the time?

You're not getting it. I take the stickers off because it is my car. (the price the dealer was happy with) and I think they look naff. I also wouldn't put up any 'Baby on Board' type stickers. I work in insurance, but won't put up their disc holders either

I have a good relationship with dealer, have recommended him to friends and would deal with him again

morritty · 02-01-2017 4:26pm

TanFlash wrote: »

I would ask some probing questions (subtly) around the reg plate change to see what answer the person gave me, in your case you have a valid answer. I'd still be checking the car for crash damage. It's like detective work, there is two purchases going on, we are buying also.
On use flip side there are some "Joe Blogs Super Duper Car Sales, Main Street, Blah Blah Blah" dealers that if I saw their surrounds on a car it can tell you straight away a fair bit about the car.

I do get where you're coming from, but it like being asked "why did you modify your car?" and simply the answer would be to both questions, because its my car, i like the look of it and i felt like it.

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

You're not getting it. I take the stickers off because it is my car. (the price the dealer was happy with) and I think they look naff. I also wouldn't put up any 'Baby on Board' type stickers. I work in insurance, but won't put up their disc holders either

Disk holders are another one that are ripped off that same day and replaced with a plain black holder.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 4:26pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

I have a good relationship with dealer, have recommended him to friends and would deal with him again

Going to the trouble of taking off dealer surrounds on reg, that's what we taking about, stickers can block view.

TanFlash · 02-01-2017 4:29pm

morritty wrote:

I do get where you're coming from, but it like being asked "why did you modify your car?" and simply the answer would be to both questions, because its my car, i like the look of it and i felt like it.

Ya see, I would never ask an abrasive question like that. I'm buying the car off you, I need to find out about the car, not your personal tastes.

morritty · 02-01-2017 4:36pm

TanFlash wrote: »

Ya see, I would never ask an abrasive question like that. I'm buying the car off you, I need to find out about the car, not your personal tastes.

My point is, both are stupid questions, now on the other hand, i had an Astra with one key for the ignition and another key for all the doors and had the salesman asked about that, i would gladly answer as that could actually affect a future sale negatively. but number plates, and/or dealer surrounds cannot affect the sale. If the salesman has doubts about possible damage, have a mechanic inspect the car, but don't try get dirty details by asking why theres no dealer surround or why number plates are changed.

Dealership plate surrounds and decals

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